Comments on: Q&A with Outdated Author Samhita Mukhopadhyay http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2012/02/13/qa-with-outdated-author-samhita-mukhopadhyay/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Micropixie http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2012/02/13/qa-with-outdated-author-samhita-mukhopadhyay/comment-page-1/#comment-288536 Micropixie Tue, 21 Feb 2012 03:01:38 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=8432#comment-288536 <p>For some bizarre reason, I always find it amusing that people who slag off feminists often cannot spell...</p> For some bizarre reason, I always find it amusing that people who slag off feminists often cannot spell…

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By: tushar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2012/02/13/qa-with-outdated-author-samhita-mukhopadhyay/comment-page-1/#comment-288535 tushar Tue, 21 Feb 2012 01:55:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=8432#comment-288535 <p>paul only ugly chicks are feminists its a fact, normal girls who can GET dudes do not have time for this nonsensical anger any white dudes out there trying to land an Indian girl, avoid the feminists</p> paul only ugly chicks are feminists its a fact, normal girls who can GET dudes do not have time for this nonsensical anger any white dudes out there trying to land an Indian girl, avoid the feminists

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By: Paul L. http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2012/02/13/qa-with-outdated-author-samhita-mukhopadhyay/comment-page-1/#comment-288533 Paul L. Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:57:10 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=8432#comment-288533 <p>Samhita Mukhopadhyay still believes that the Duke Lacrosse player were guilt. http://feministing.com/2007/04/12/you_will_not_shame_me/</p> Samhita Mukhopadhyay still believes that the Duke Lacrosse player were guilt. http://feministing.com/2007/04/12/you_will_not_shame_me/

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By: gompiepie http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2012/02/13/qa-with-outdated-author-samhita-mukhopadhyay/comment-page-1/#comment-288526 gompiepie Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:51:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=8432#comment-288526 <p>"I didn’t gear the book specifically to the South Asian community but also didn’t shy away from talking about my experience as a South Asian woman."</p> <p>There is no "South Asian" or "Indian" community, never has been. You're either a liar or a moron repeating colonial-era lies to imply that this, vast, arbitrary, geographic region has a people. "South Asian" people don't intermarry, are not of one race, don't worship the same God(s), don't have the same mother tongue, and our history is downright antagonistic to this day. I'm not talking about Hindus vs. Sikhs vs. Christians either, personally I have very little time for Bengali Hindus or the self-proclaimed lower castes. Quit trying to define some affirmative political group.</p> <p>This fake, contrived identity is the reason for all your mental problems. You seek commonality where there is none, or the wrong type of commonality (based on some shared oppression mythos), and end up frustrated thinking there's no "South Asian" men/women out there for you. It's much worse, from a cultural continuity standpoint to, say, marry a Hindu from a different region than a non-South Asian person all together.</p> “I didn’t gear the book specifically to the South Asian community but also didn’t shy away from talking about my experience as a South Asian woman.”

There is no “South Asian” or “Indian” community, never has been. You’re either a liar or a moron repeating colonial-era lies to imply that this, vast, arbitrary, geographic region has a people. “South Asian” people don’t intermarry, are not of one race, don’t worship the same God(s), don’t have the same mother tongue, and our history is downright antagonistic to this day. I’m not talking about Hindus vs. Sikhs vs. Christians either, personally I have very little time for Bengali Hindus or the self-proclaimed lower castes. Quit trying to define some affirmative political group.

This fake, contrived identity is the reason for all your mental problems. You seek commonality where there is none, or the wrong type of commonality (based on some shared oppression mythos), and end up frustrated thinking there’s no “South Asian” men/women out there for you. It’s much worse, from a cultural continuity standpoint to, say, marry a Hindu from a different region than a non-South Asian person all together.

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By: clueless http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2012/02/13/qa-with-outdated-author-samhita-mukhopadhyay/comment-page-1/#comment-288523 clueless Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:53:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=8432#comment-288523 <p>@tushar: You don't get it, do you? "[Her [s]trength and independence makes her able to take care of all this responsibility." She's not hurt at all. As for your "truth," well, as Deepa put it above, you're a bit confused.</p> @tushar: You don’t get it, do you? “[Her [s]trength and independence makes her able to take care of all this responsibility.” She’s not hurt at all. As for your “truth,” well, as Deepa put it above, you’re a bit confused.

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By: Lili http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2012/02/13/qa-with-outdated-author-samhita-mukhopadhyay/comment-page-1/#comment-288519 Lili Sun, 19 Feb 2012 09:37:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=8432#comment-288519 <p>worst valentines day ever: a few years ago, on a blustery february morning, one of my friends calls me to tell me that she has met this 'stellar' guy, who is also indian, raised in australia and was living in NYC for a year-long work stint. although she was in a committed relationship, she was convinced we would hit it off. while i had never been on a blind date, i needed to exercise my dating muscle (it had been four months since i'd split with my ex) so i gave her the go ahead. we exchanged a few emails and i actually began to look forward to seeing the guy's name - let's call him s - in my inbox. he suggested dinner and a movie on valentine's day. i was way too excited. so we meet, and i don't find myself initially attracted to him, but that was ok because i know attraction can grow. we went to dinner and had a great time telling each other (for whatever reason) of all our experiences with spiders and sharks. i laughed a lot. he touched my hand. i got butterflies. blah blah blah. we got progressively closer as the night wore on, shared a slice of cheesecake and out of nowhere, he kisses me. then we got to talking about family and s mentions that he was super close to his great grandfather who passed away recently, who everyone referred to as 'bu.' my heart dropped - bu? my great grandfather named bu passed away recently. we did the necessary panicked math and figuring out - yes, we were cousins. i can't explain the simultaneous disgust and horror - we sprang away from each other like slinkies going down a staircase. we couldn't look each other in the eye. now i know that plenty of people marry their relatives, that some people don't think that's a strange thing, but G-d knows, i do and so did s. we sat in stunned silence for the next twenty minutes. we had already bought movie tickets and s (bless him) suggested we salvage the night and go to the movie so as to forget what had just happened. it was horrendously awkward, but i appreciated his effort so we went to see the movie - black swan. a word to the wise: black swan is not a movie to be seen on a first date...especially a first date with a cousin. between the sex scene, the masturbation scene and the fact that we'd recently discovered we shared genetic code, it was the most uncomfortable two hours of my life. we sat as far away from each other as you can in a small movie chair. when the movie ended, we bolted - him downtown, me uptown, even though i knew he had to go uptown too. i have never spoken to him again and hope against all hope that i never run into him again.</p> worst valentines day ever: a few years ago, on a blustery february morning, one of my friends calls me to tell me that she has met this ‘stellar’ guy, who is also indian, raised in australia and was living in NYC for a year-long work stint. although she was in a committed relationship, she was convinced we would hit it off. while i had never been on a blind date, i needed to exercise my dating muscle (it had been four months since i’d split with my ex) so i gave her the go ahead. we exchanged a few emails and i actually began to look forward to seeing the guy’s name – let’s call him s – in my inbox. he suggested dinner and a movie on valentine’s day. i was way too excited. so we meet, and i don’t find myself initially attracted to him, but that was ok because i know attraction can grow. we went to dinner and had a great time telling each other (for whatever reason) of all our experiences with spiders and sharks. i laughed a lot. he touched my hand. i got butterflies. blah blah blah. we got progressively closer as the night wore on, shared a slice of cheesecake and out of nowhere, he kisses me. then we got to talking about family and s mentions that he was super close to his great grandfather who passed away recently, who everyone referred to as ‘bu.’ my heart dropped – bu? my great grandfather named bu passed away recently. we did the necessary panicked math and figuring out – yes, we were cousins. i can’t explain the simultaneous disgust and horror – we sprang away from each other like slinkies going down a staircase. we couldn’t look each other in the eye. now i know that plenty of people marry their relatives, that some people don’t think that’s a strange thing, but G-d knows, i do and so did s. we sat in stunned silence for the next twenty minutes. we had already bought movie tickets and s (bless him) suggested we salvage the night and go to the movie so as to forget what had just happened. it was horrendously awkward, but i appreciated his effort so we went to see the movie – black swan. a word to the wise: black swan is not a movie to be seen on a first date…especially a first date with a cousin. between the sex scene, the masturbation scene and the fact that we’d recently discovered we shared genetic code, it was the most uncomfortable two hours of my life. we sat as far away from each other as you can in a small movie chair. when the movie ended, we bolted – him downtown, me uptown, even though i knew he had to go uptown too. i have never spoken to him again and hope against all hope that i never run into him again.

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By: tushar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2012/02/13/qa-with-outdated-author-samhita-mukhopadhyay/comment-page-1/#comment-288517 tushar Sun, 19 Feb 2012 07:04:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=8432#comment-288517 <p>wow the truth really hurt you didn't it :)</p> wow the truth really hurt you didn’t it :)

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By: Deepa http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2012/02/13/qa-with-outdated-author-samhita-mukhopadhyay/comment-page-1/#comment-288506 Deepa Sat, 18 Feb 2012 07:28:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=8432#comment-288506 <p>Or: the idea was that the man would have to restrict his desire to have sex with no commitments, and in return the woman would provide him with what he needed for long and healthy life (stable emotional support, making sure he eats properly and well) and take care of him as he aged out of attractiveness (as does happen occasionally with men). She would also bear and provide the basis for taking care of their children.</p> <p>Wait a minute, what is the woman getting out of this, compared to the man? ;) Anyhow, strength and independence makes her able to take care of all this responsibility. Weakness and dependence would likely end up in a short life due to eating at McDonald's for every meal.</p> <p>But anyhow, idiot men got confused as to the purpose of it all and as a result were unable to find any women to take care of them and then they had to end up posting their sad idiocy on Sepia Mutiny using big words to try to make their confusion seem intelligent.</p> <p>Since I guess I am on the web, and I even see the option below to connect with Facebook, it must be early in the 21st century...but where in time are our minds?</p> Or: the idea was that the man would have to restrict his desire to have sex with no commitments, and in return the woman would provide him with what he needed for long and healthy life (stable emotional support, making sure he eats properly and well) and take care of him as he aged out of attractiveness (as does happen occasionally with men). She would also bear and provide the basis for taking care of their children.

Wait a minute, what is the woman getting out of this, compared to the man? ;) Anyhow, strength and independence makes her able to take care of all this responsibility. Weakness and dependence would likely end up in a short life due to eating at McDonald’s for every meal.

But anyhow, idiot men got confused as to the purpose of it all and as a result were unable to find any women to take care of them and then they had to end up posting their sad idiocy on Sepia Mutiny using big words to try to make their confusion seem intelligent.

Since I guess I am on the web, and I even see the option below to connect with Facebook, it must be early in the 21st century…but where in time are our minds?

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By: Deepa http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2012/02/13/qa-with-outdated-author-samhita-mukhopadhyay/comment-page-1/#comment-288505 Deepa Sat, 18 Feb 2012 07:12:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=8432#comment-288505 <p>Hm, so you preclude the possibility that Tribe might be a dumb guy just because he went to Harvard, took math, and graduated summa? Perhaps he's good at math but not smart. Some of us grok the rules of the school system, and some don't...we call (you call) the ones who grok the system smart, but mostly what it means (in some cases, completely what it means) is that they just happen to grok the system.</p> <p>But the confidence that one such person gets from the validation society gives (i.e. grok the school system=general intelligence/potential/value) can really help to make the expectation come true, in some cases.</p> <p>Before you ask, yes I grokked the system well, I think my credentials would pass your "lofty" standards.</p> Hm, so you preclude the possibility that Tribe might be a dumb guy just because he went to Harvard, took math, and graduated summa? Perhaps he’s good at math but not smart. Some of us grok the rules of the school system, and some don’t…we call (you call) the ones who grok the system smart, but mostly what it means (in some cases, completely what it means) is that they just happen to grok the system.

But the confidence that one such person gets from the validation society gives (i.e. grok the school system=general intelligence/potential/value) can really help to make the expectation come true, in some cases.

Before you ask, yes I grokked the system well, I think my credentials would pass your “lofty” standards.

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By: tushar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2012/02/13/qa-with-outdated-author-samhita-mukhopadhyay/comment-page-1/#comment-288496 tushar Fri, 17 Feb 2012 05:11:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=8432#comment-288496 <p>Marriage rates are dropping and divorce rates are rising, with more and more single women left adrift to face old age with no romantic prospects. The original marriage contract was meant in part to protect women from spousal abandonment. The idea was that a woman would give her fertility to one man exclusively, and in exchange for faithfully bearing and raising his children he was expected to care for her as she aged out of attractiveness. It was a contract based on loyalty, mutual convenience, and hopefully love and companionship.</p> <p>Because feminists wanted to destroy that institution in favor of a societal free-for-all, they instead left millions of women exposed to the cruel vicissitudes of the sexual market. And most of these women are discovering that you can be strong and independent, OR you can be part of a familial unit that protects you into your old age. Not both.</p> Marriage rates are dropping and divorce rates are rising, with more and more single women left adrift to face old age with no romantic prospects. The original marriage contract was meant in part to protect women from spousal abandonment. The idea was that a woman would give her fertility to one man exclusively, and in exchange for faithfully bearing and raising his children he was expected to care for her as she aged out of attractiveness. It was a contract based on loyalty, mutual convenience, and hopefully love and companionship.

Because feminists wanted to destroy that institution in favor of a societal free-for-all, they instead left millions of women exposed to the cruel vicissitudes of the sexual market. And most of these women are discovering that you can be strong and independent, OR you can be part of a familial unit that protects you into your old age. Not both.

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