Comments on: It’s Confirmed – Desis Are Growing http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/11/28/its-confirmed-desis-are-growing/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: ankan kd http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/11/28/its-confirmed-desis-are-growing/comment-page-1/#comment-287686 ankan kd Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:11:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=7854#comment-287686 <p>I really liked your blog! Nice Posts!....</p> I really liked your blog! Nice Posts!….

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By: Thribhu http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/11/28/its-confirmed-desis-are-growing/comment-page-1/#comment-287664 Thribhu Thu, 15 Dec 2011 00:23:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=7854#comment-287664 <p>Yes this is true and its a great thing. But recent developments have it so most of us are, for some reason or another, turning up GOP. Its something that is not only counter intuitive, but also unprecedented. No other minority supports the GOP in a greater way than "Desis." It is scary.</p> <p>I wrote about this in light of the 2010 Congressional Elections. http://thecafeaulait.blogspot.com/2010/11/gop-la-brown.html</p> Yes this is true and its a great thing. But recent developments have it so most of us are, for some reason or another, turning up GOP. Its something that is not only counter intuitive, but also unprecedented. No other minority supports the GOP in a greater way than “Desis.” It is scary.

I wrote about this in light of the 2010 Congressional Elections. http://thecafeaulait.blogspot.com/2010/11/gop-la-brown.html

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By: sandeep http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/11/28/its-confirmed-desis-are-growing/comment-page-1/#comment-287622 sandeep Tue, 13 Dec 2011 01:31:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=7854#comment-287622 <p>Why are we happy about the uncontrolled population growth back home. India is a mess on a brink of disaster due to scarcity of resources.</p> <p>Key today is low population and high productivity. Take Scandinavian countries for example.</p> Why are we happy about the uncontrolled population growth back home. India is a mess on a brink of disaster due to scarcity of resources.

Key today is low population and high productivity. Take Scandinavian countries for example.

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By: Eurasian Sensation http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/11/28/its-confirmed-desis-are-growing/comment-page-1/#comment-287601 Eurasian Sensation Mon, 12 Dec 2011 00:53:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=7854#comment-287601 <p>Anyone know why the Sri Lankan community in the US is so small? The UK, Canada, Australia and even France have considerably larger numbers of them, so I'm wondering why the Sri Lankan American population is considerably lower than one might expect.</p> Anyone know why the Sri Lankan community in the US is so small? The UK, Canada, Australia and even France have considerably larger numbers of them, so I’m wondering why the Sri Lankan American population is considerably lower than one might expect.

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By: omar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/11/28/its-confirmed-desis-are-growing/comment-page-1/#comment-287594 omar Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:33:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=7854#comment-287594 <p>but all this, including my comment, is anecdotal. There are many Pakistani achievers and Indian achievers but what are the aggregate figures? Does someone have data about enrollment in PhD programs, National merit scholars, something else quantitative? What does the data say? I was trying to point out that the pakistani american population is NOT likely to become an economic underclass or a ghettoized population like a faction of the British Pakistani community..the two populations are very different. But at the same time, the average academic/research achievement and penetration in mainstream cultural fields and politics is likely to be higher for the Indian population and (anecdotally) this gap seems to be growing, not shrinking. But again, that does not mean Pakistanis are headed for some kind of underclass status. BOTH Pakistanis and Indians (and Bangladeshis for that matter) are likely to be relatively successful minorities. But within these groups, Indians seem on track to continue to outperform the other two, at least in the next 10 years.</p> but all this, including my comment, is anecdotal. There are many Pakistani achievers and Indian achievers but what are the aggregate figures? Does someone have data about enrollment in PhD programs, National merit scholars, something else quantitative? What does the data say? I was trying to point out that the pakistani american population is NOT likely to become an economic underclass or a ghettoized population like a faction of the British Pakistani community..the two populations are very different. But at the same time, the average academic/research achievement and penetration in mainstream cultural fields and politics is likely to be higher for the Indian population and (anecdotally) this gap seems to be growing, not shrinking. But again, that does not mean Pakistanis are headed for some kind of underclass status. BOTH Pakistanis and Indians (and Bangladeshis for that matter) are likely to be relatively successful minorities. But within these groups, Indians seem on track to continue to outperform the other two, at least in the next 10 years.

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By: Prem http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/11/28/its-confirmed-desis-are-growing/comment-page-1/#comment-287587 Prem Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:16:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=7854#comment-287587 <p>This guy rec1man is a notorious Internet troll tirelessly spreading BS about south indian brahmins having the highest IQs in the whole world, despite zero evidence! He has no love for low caste hindu desis either.</p> <p>Unfortunately for him Pakistani and Bangladeshi Americans have been more in the news lately than Tamil Brahmin Americans, as exemplars of the American dream. There is the innovative pakistani-american engineer Shahid Khan a self-made billionaire who just became the first minority to own an NFL franchise, as elite as you can get in American sports. There is Bangladeshi-American Salman Khan who is in the news for innovating in the education sector with his Khan Academy which is extolled and financed by Bill Gates, the Google guys and other such luminaries. Two Pakistani-Americans Osman Rashid and Babur Habib are also leading edge innovators in the education sector with their Kno project. Then there is Pakistani-American Hosain Rahman who is in the news for his innovative wrist band the Jawbone Up. He is the man behind the king of Bluetooth headsets, the Jawbone line and the best of breed Bluetooth speakers the Jawbone Jambox.</p> <p>Considering that Pakistanis and Bangladeshis combined are fewer than half a million, a small fraction of the Indian-American population, it looks like they are making quite an impact in America.</p> This guy rec1man is a notorious Internet troll tirelessly spreading BS about south indian brahmins having the highest IQs in the whole world, despite zero evidence! He has no love for low caste hindu desis either.

Unfortunately for him Pakistani and Bangladeshi Americans have been more in the news lately than Tamil Brahmin Americans, as exemplars of the American dream. There is the innovative pakistani-american engineer Shahid Khan a self-made billionaire who just became the first minority to own an NFL franchise, as elite as you can get in American sports. There is Bangladeshi-American Salman Khan who is in the news for innovating in the education sector with his Khan Academy which is extolled and financed by Bill Gates, the Google guys and other such luminaries. Two Pakistani-Americans Osman Rashid and Babur Habib are also leading edge innovators in the education sector with their Kno project. Then there is Pakistani-American Hosain Rahman who is in the news for his innovative wrist band the Jawbone Up. He is the man behind the king of Bluetooth headsets, the Jawbone line and the best of breed Bluetooth speakers the Jawbone Jambox.

Considering that Pakistanis and Bangladeshis combined are fewer than half a million, a small fraction of the Indian-American population, it looks like they are making quite an impact in America.

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By: Wednesday link roundup « The Plaid Bag Connection http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/11/28/its-confirmed-desis-are-growing/comment-page-1/#comment-287586 Wednesday link roundup « The Plaid Bag Connection Sat, 10 Dec 2011 18:57:44 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=7854#comment-287586 <p>[...] It’s Confirmed – Desis Are Growing One of the largest findings is that South Asians are the fastest growing Asian American community; the Indian population is at 3,183,063; the Pakistani population is at 409,163; Bangladeshi population at 147,300; Nepalese population at 59,490; Sri Lankan population at 45,381; and Bhutanese population at 19,439. That brings the South Asian American population close to 4 million with an exact total of 3,863,836 people. The Bangladeshi and Pakistani population literally doubled between 2000 and 2010. [...]</p> [...] It’s Confirmed – Desis Are Growing One of the largest findings is that South Asians are the fastest growing Asian American community; the Indian population is at 3,183,063; the Pakistani population is at 409,163; Bangladeshi population at 147,300; Nepalese population at 59,490; Sri Lankan population at 45,381; and Bhutanese population at 19,439. That brings the South Asian American population close to 4 million with an exact total of 3,863,836 people. The Bangladeshi and Pakistani population literally doubled between 2000 and 2010. [...]

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By: omar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/11/28/its-confirmed-desis-are-growing/comment-page-1/#comment-287583 omar Sat, 10 Dec 2011 02:42:36 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=7854#comment-287583 <p>Pakistanis in the US are different from the Pakistanis in Britain (who include a very large segment of Mirpuri Kashmiris, who came with low literacy, got generous welfare and got into "true Islam" in a state where multicultralism was being seriously attempted...none of this is true of Pakistani immigrants to the US). My guess is that per capita income for Pakistani-Americans will rise though the gap with Indians will probably increase a little. I dont think the Pakistani American community is headed for the kind of underclass status you imply. That said, I do think there will be a dramatic difference in other areas. In academic achievement, cultural achievement and civic engagement within America, Indians will continue to pull ahead and the gap will widen. e.g.,I have read somewhere (I wish I had the link handy, but someone may find it and post it) that if you look at National honors society finalists, the gap between Indians and Pakistanis is MUCH larger than the gap between their respective populations. In my own field (academic medicine) the gap is not narrowing, its growing. There are many Pakistani doctors, but not as many Pakistanis in academics and research.</p> Pakistanis in the US are different from the Pakistanis in Britain (who include a very large segment of Mirpuri Kashmiris, who came with low literacy, got generous welfare and got into “true Islam” in a state where multicultralism was being seriously attempted…none of this is true of Pakistani immigrants to the US). My guess is that per capita income for Pakistani-Americans will rise though the gap with Indians will probably increase a little. I dont think the Pakistani American community is headed for the kind of underclass status you imply. That said, I do think there will be a dramatic difference in other areas. In academic achievement, cultural achievement and civic engagement within America, Indians will continue to pull ahead and the gap will widen. e.g.,I have read somewhere (I wish I had the link handy, but someone may find it and post it) that if you look at National honors society finalists, the gap between Indians and Pakistanis is MUCH larger than the gap between their respective populations. In my own field (academic medicine) the gap is not narrowing, its growing. There are many Pakistani doctors, but not as many Pakistanis in academics and research.

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By: FOSA http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/11/28/its-confirmed-desis-are-growing/comment-page-1/#comment-287545 FOSA Wed, 07 Dec 2011 02:49:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=7854#comment-287545 <p>Deshi,</p> <p>My friend from across the border, I m with you. Contrary to popular notions, available data and a good sample set in British Pakistanis I agree that Pakistanis are model immigrants.If only those pesky Americans were like the British and allowed people from Pakistan their rightful place which is only at the top above everyone else.</p> Deshi,

My friend from across the border, I m with you. Contrary to popular notions, available data and a good sample set in British Pakistanis I agree that Pakistanis are model immigrants.If only those pesky Americans were like the British and allowed people from Pakistan their rightful place which is only at the top above everyone else.

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By: Malik http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/11/28/its-confirmed-desis-are-growing/comment-page-1/#comment-287515 Malik Mon, 05 Dec 2011 22:38:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=7854#comment-287515 <p>deepal, Asian Americans(including Indians, Pakistanis,etc.) as a whole barely amount to 5% of the US population.. They just have increased visibility because of their concentration in major metros and higher average levels of education.</p> deepal, Asian Americans(including Indians, Pakistanis,etc.) as a whole barely amount to 5% of the US population.. They just have increased visibility because of their concentration in major metros and higher average levels of education.

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