Comments on: I Want the World To Know http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/10/11/i-want-the-world-to-know/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Orville http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/10/11/i-want-the-world-to-know/comment-page-1/#comment-286996 Orville Wed, 19 Oct 2011 04:08:44 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=7306#comment-286996 <p>I am openly gay and out to my parents but I also understand for other queer people of colour this is simply not possible for a variety of reasons. My parents asked me if I am gay when I was seventeen and so did my siblings. I just did not deny it. Although, I am out to my family and over a decade has passed we don't talk about my homosexuality that much. So just because a person comes out doesn't mean it really changes things at least in my experience that wasn't the case. I do have a problem with the media presenting coming out as something magical and that parents ultimately accept their son or daughter that has come out. Coming out is a personal journey that every LGBT person must make on their own terms and on their own time.</p> I am openly gay and out to my parents but I also understand for other queer people of colour this is simply not possible for a variety of reasons. My parents asked me if I am gay when I was seventeen and so did my siblings. I just did not deny it. Although, I am out to my family and over a decade has passed we don’t talk about my homosexuality that much. So just because a person comes out doesn’t mean it really changes things at least in my experience that wasn’t the case. I do have a problem with the media presenting coming out as something magical and that parents ultimately accept their son or daughter that has come out. Coming out is a personal journey that every LGBT person must make on their own terms and on their own time.

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By: Sonia http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/10/11/i-want-the-world-to-know/comment-page-1/#comment-286993 Sonia Tue, 18 Oct 2011 22:16:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=7306#comment-286993 <p>L, that is absolutely true. Emotional abuse can be just as painful (if not more so) than physical abuse.</p> <p>When I came out, my dad told me I'd hurt him worse than it hurt when his mother died (he was 8 years old). My mom told me she wouldn't be able to face the family or any of her friends. They told me they would move far away to escape the embarrassment. They wanted to take my brother out of school (UC Berkeley) to "teach me a lesson." I was sure that the only way to end all of the pain I was putting them through was to end my own life.</p> <p>Thank God I didn't.</p> <p>Over a year later, things are far from perfect. I'm still struggling with coming out and letting my parents in.</p> <p>But (and this is just my opinion), those experiences that Broom described are my goal. Planning a family, throwing dinner parties, sending out family cards every once in a while, having pictures of my family up in my home, etc. They're my reason for continuing the internal struggle.</p> <p>I guess each of us has to decide for ourselves whether those experiences are worth it. They may not be worth it to everyone and that is totally okay and understandable.</p> <p>Anyway, that's my two cents. Good luck, kiddo.</p> L, that is absolutely true. Emotional abuse can be just as painful (if not more so) than physical abuse.

When I came out, my dad told me I’d hurt him worse than it hurt when his mother died (he was 8 years old). My mom told me she wouldn’t be able to face the family or any of her friends. They told me they would move far away to escape the embarrassment. They wanted to take my brother out of school (UC Berkeley) to “teach me a lesson.” I was sure that the only way to end all of the pain I was putting them through was to end my own life.

Thank God I didn’t.

Over a year later, things are far from perfect. I’m still struggling with coming out and letting my parents in.

But (and this is just my opinion), those experiences that Broom described are my goal. Planning a family, throwing dinner parties, sending out family cards every once in a while, having pictures of my family up in my home, etc. They’re my reason for continuing the internal struggle.

I guess each of us has to decide for ourselves whether those experiences are worth it. They may not be worth it to everyone and that is totally okay and understandable.

Anyway, that’s my two cents. Good luck, kiddo.

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By: Sonia http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/10/11/i-want-the-world-to-know/comment-page-1/#comment-286992 Sonia Tue, 18 Oct 2011 22:03:38 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=7306#comment-286992 <p>I thought that until recently, Malik. What follows is my own humble opinion and may not be true for everyone.</p> <p>It's true that a lot our parents have had a completely different set of expectations and values ingrained into them their entire lives. It almost doesn't even matter that they emigrated here, into a society with such drastically different views. At least in my case, my parents have surrounded themselves with friends and family who shared their culture and had no interest in associating with people whose views differed from theirs. Because they had their views and I grew up here, we often clashed on insignificant issues. (Of course, I didn't think the issues were insignificant at the time of the argument). Things like concerts or sleepovers were totally unacceptable.</p> <p>Now that I'm a bit older (24 yrs), I have such a deeper understanding and appreciation of where they've come from and the values they've held onto despite being surrounded by Western society. Our parents know us better than anyone else can. They're usually the closest people to us who have known us our entire lives, right?</p> <p>I guess my point is that it's not up to our parents to improve the quality of our relationships with them--it's up to us. We have to make that effort to show them how much we appreciate them in order for them to understand that we do have good judgment and they can trust us. We have to be the ones who react to negative situations with grace, patience and love. Believe me, this takes conscious practice. However, your parents will see those qualities in you eventually and will respond to it.</p> <p>I hope a little bit of that made some sense. If nothing else, consider this: "The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree."</p> <p>Respectfully,</p> <p>Sonia</p> I thought that until recently, Malik. What follows is my own humble opinion and may not be true for everyone.

It’s true that a lot our parents have had a completely different set of expectations and values ingrained into them their entire lives. It almost doesn’t even matter that they emigrated here, into a society with such drastically different views. At least in my case, my parents have surrounded themselves with friends and family who shared their culture and had no interest in associating with people whose views differed from theirs. Because they had their views and I grew up here, we often clashed on insignificant issues. (Of course, I didn’t think the issues were insignificant at the time of the argument). Things like concerts or sleepovers were totally unacceptable.

Now that I’m a bit older (24 yrs), I have such a deeper understanding and appreciation of where they’ve come from and the values they’ve held onto despite being surrounded by Western society. Our parents know us better than anyone else can. They’re usually the closest people to us who have known us our entire lives, right?

I guess my point is that it’s not up to our parents to improve the quality of our relationships with them–it’s up to us. We have to make that effort to show them how much we appreciate them in order for them to understand that we do have good judgment and they can trust us. We have to be the ones who react to negative situations with grace, patience and love. Believe me, this takes conscious practice. However, your parents will see those qualities in you eventually and will respond to it.

I hope a little bit of that made some sense. If nothing else, consider this: “The apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree.”

Respectfully,

Sonia

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By: Malik http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/10/11/i-want-the-world-to-know/comment-page-1/#comment-286984 Malik Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:03:32 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=7306#comment-286984 <p>Does anyone feel like they can't have a good relationship with their parents because said parents are too 'different' in their thinking and culture?</p> Does anyone feel like they can’t have a good relationship with their parents because said parents are too ‘different’ in their thinking and culture?

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By: mr. khan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/10/11/i-want-the-world-to-know/comment-page-1/#comment-286963 mr. khan Mon, 17 Oct 2011 02:55:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=7306#comment-286963 <p>I struggle with this ... I am out to everyone but my parents. I want to live authentically and that is the last barrier. But, my relationship with my parents is a struggle at the best of times. In fairness though, we have come a long way - i'm in my thirties now - and I could never have imagined the relationship that we have mapped out for ourselves today when I was in high school. So, I am going to to appeal to optimism and imagine a future where I can tell my parents.</p> I struggle with this … I am out to everyone but my parents. I want to live authentically and that is the last barrier. But, my relationship with my parents is a struggle at the best of times. In fairness though, we have come a long way – i’m in my thirties now – and I could never have imagined the relationship that we have mapped out for ourselves today when I was in high school. So, I am going to to appeal to optimism and imagine a future where I can tell my parents.

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By: L http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/10/11/i-want-the-world-to-know/comment-page-1/#comment-286962 L Mon, 17 Oct 2011 02:30:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=7306#comment-286962 <p>"I think, unless you’re physical danger you owe it to yourself to come out to your parents, sooner or later."</p> <p>Physical danger is one factor to consider, but what about ostracization? Verbal abuse? Emotional damage can be just as painful as physical wounds.</p> “I think, unless you’re physical danger you owe it to yourself to come out to your parents, sooner or later.”

Physical danger is one factor to consider, but what about ostracization? Verbal abuse? Emotional damage can be just as painful as physical wounds.

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By: Sonia http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/10/11/i-want-the-world-to-know/comment-page-1/#comment-286956 Sonia Sat, 15 Oct 2011 23:05:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=7306#comment-286956 <p>Thank you so, so much for posting about this, Taz.</p> <p>I'm also a queer Indian woman and I'm out to most of my family. It was the hardest thing I've ever done and I'm not exaggerating when I say I very nearly didn't survive the resulting backlash. It's an issue that is still swept under the rug and ignored and I continue to struggle with determining the extent to which I want to let my family be apart of my life.</p> <p>In my humble opinion, we in the South Asian LGBT community desperately need the support of the straight majority. The hate and the stigma have gone on for too long.</p> <p>Thanks again, Taz.</p> Thank you so, so much for posting about this, Taz.

I’m also a queer Indian woman and I’m out to most of my family. It was the hardest thing I’ve ever done and I’m not exaggerating when I say I very nearly didn’t survive the resulting backlash. It’s an issue that is still swept under the rug and ignored and I continue to struggle with determining the extent to which I want to let my family be apart of my life.

In my humble opinion, we in the South Asian LGBT community desperately need the support of the straight majority. The hate and the stigma have gone on for too long.

Thanks again, Taz.

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By: Broom http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/10/11/i-want-the-world-to-know/comment-page-1/#comment-286941 Broom Fri, 14 Oct 2011 21:13:10 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=7306#comment-286941 <p>I'm a desi queer woman and I am out to my parents. It was the hardest thing I've ever done. They were very upset and still aren't too thrilled about it, but I can live my life without the lies and the secrets. I can now actually do things that everyone does with their partner - buy a house, plan a family, throw dinner parties for relatives and friends without lying to my parents about any of this.</p> <p>I think, unless you're physical danger you owe it to yourself to come out to your parents, sooner or later.</p> I’m a desi queer woman and I am out to my parents. It was the hardest thing I’ve ever done. They were very upset and still aren’t too thrilled about it, but I can live my life without the lies and the secrets. I can now actually do things that everyone does with their partner – buy a house, plan a family, throw dinner parties for relatives and friends without lying to my parents about any of this.

I think, unless you’re physical danger you owe it to yourself to come out to your parents, sooner or later.

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By: Razib Khan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/10/11/i-want-the-world-to-know/comment-page-1/#comment-286932 Razib Khan Fri, 14 Oct 2011 02:42:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=7306#comment-286932 <p><i> Few white Americans can really understand WHY someone may need to remain closeted to their parents-</i></p> <p>really? didn't know you'd done some serious research and concluded that it's so easy and open to be a gay white person. i'd like to introduce you to some people.... (i don't deny it is harder in some communities than others, but unfortunately being gay is rarely a piece cake).</p> Few white Americans can really understand WHY someone may need to remain closeted to their parents-

really? didn’t know you’d done some serious research and concluded that it’s so easy and open to be a gay white person. i’d like to introduce you to some people…. (i don’t deny it is harder in some communities than others, but unfortunately being gay is rarely a piece cake).

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By: booboo008 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/10/11/i-want-the-world-to-know/comment-page-1/#comment-286931 booboo008 Fri, 14 Oct 2011 00:50:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/?p=7306#comment-286931 <p>i have to apologize--i inadvertently assumed the brown woman featured in the video was indian. she may indeed be, or she may well not be-- should not have just assumed.</p> i have to apologize–i inadvertently assumed the brown woman featured in the video was indian. she may indeed be, or she may well not be– should not have just assumed.

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