Comments on: The decade of the brown http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/07/19/the_decade_of_t/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Diane Palmer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/07/19/the_decade_of_t/comment-page-1/#comment-285652 Diane Palmer Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:43:38 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6603#comment-285652 <p>The Asian American population is growing at a breathtaking pace. Their numbers nearly doubled between 1980 and 1990 and are likely to double again by 2011. The estimated 9.6 million Asian Americans in 1997 make up less than 4 percent of the total U.S. population, but their influence on U.S. society is accentuated by their geographic concentration in a handful of states and cities and their above average income and educational levels.</p> The Asian American population is growing at a breathtaking pace. Their numbers nearly doubled between 1980 and 1990 and are likely to double again by 2011. The estimated 9.6 million Asian Americans in 1997 make up less than 4 percent of the total U.S. population, but their influence on U.S. society is accentuated by their geographic concentration in a handful of states and cities and their above average income and educational levels.

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By: bwunderlick http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/07/19/the_decade_of_t/comment-page-1/#comment-285636 bwunderlick Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:20:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6603#comment-285636 <p>My anecdotal evidence is different from your anecdotal evidence.</p> My anecdotal evidence is different from your anecdotal evidence.

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By: Blue http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/07/19/the_decade_of_t/comment-page-1/#comment-285620 Blue Thu, 21 Jul 2011 02:24:34 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6603#comment-285620 <p>Consider the fact that most immigrants have sponsored their parents & siblings after becoming citizens. Majority of them also went back to get married.</p> <p>Sikh youth did successfully file for political asylums up to 1994, with 80-90% of them being false claims. With years of political instability & rampant corruption, Punjab have been left behind in growth compare to most parts of India. Instead of States, most Punjabis are now migrating to Canada, Australia & New Zealand.</p> Consider the fact that most immigrants have sponsored their parents & siblings after becoming citizens. Majority of them also went back to get married.

Sikh youth did successfully file for political asylums up to 1994, with 80-90% of them being false claims. With years of political instability & rampant corruption, Punjab have been left behind in growth compare to most parts of India. Instead of States, most Punjabis are now migrating to Canada, Australia & New Zealand.

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By: Razib Khan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/07/19/the_decade_of_t/comment-page-1/#comment-285615 Razib Khan Thu, 21 Jul 2011 00:02:23 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6603#comment-285615 <p><i> due to births, especially considering the now child-rearing age of many Indian-Americans from the last census?</i></p> <p>the surveys of asian americans usually show low TFR (below replacement) except for a few small groups, like cambodian and laotian refugees (probably bangladehsi and pakistanis too). the fertility of hindu americans seems about replacement from pew religious ident survey. though if the population is peaking in fertility you are correct that the TFR can mislead. but anecdotally i think most people believe that this is due to massive immigration (you randomly meet lots of people who arrived in the 2000s in many large cities).</p> due to births, especially considering the now child-rearing age of many Indian-Americans from the last census?

the surveys of asian americans usually show low TFR (below replacement) except for a few small groups, like cambodian and laotian refugees (probably bangladehsi and pakistanis too). the fertility of hindu americans seems about replacement from pew religious ident survey. though if the population is peaking in fertility you are correct that the TFR can mislead. but anecdotally i think most people believe that this is due to massive immigration (you randomly meet lots of people who arrived in the 2000s in many large cities).

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By: Malik http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/07/19/the_decade_of_t/comment-page-1/#comment-285614 Malik Wed, 20 Jul 2011 23:57:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6603#comment-285614 <p>I wonder how many of them marked Pakistan and Indian, Sri Lankan and Indian,etc. causing them to be 'multiracial'..</p> I wonder how many of them marked Pakistan and Indian, Sri Lankan and Indian,etc. causing them to be ‘multiracial’..

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By: bwunderlick http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/07/19/the_decade_of_t/comment-page-1/#comment-285611 bwunderlick Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:09:02 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6603#comment-285611 <p>@royalbob, are you just copy and pasting some study without providing a link or explaining the context of the data? You know that's just plagiarism?</p> <p>Also, I'm not sure why people are so sure the population growth is not due to births, especially considering the now child-rearing age of many Indian-Americans from the last census?</p> @royalbob, are you just copy and pasting some study without providing a link or explaining the context of the data? You know that’s just plagiarism?

Also, I’m not sure why people are so sure the population growth is not due to births, especially considering the now child-rearing age of many Indian-Americans from the last census?

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By: The Kutra http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/07/19/the_decade_of_t/comment-page-1/#comment-285609 The Kutra Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:53:02 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6603#comment-285609 <p>So many Punjabi illegals?</p> <p>Not surprising considering how poor Punjab's economic prospects are:</p> <p>http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703730804576322330472250792.html</p> <p>http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703730804576322352143277090.html</p> <p>"Nice to know these new data but also the important data of Indian Americans to note is their achivements :"</p> <p>Applause! Glad to know that a population largely drawn from India's elite ranks is doing well. So what?</p> So many Punjabi illegals?

Not surprising considering how poor Punjab’s economic prospects are:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703730804576322330472250792.html

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703730804576322352143277090.html

“Nice to know these new data but also the important data of Indian Americans to note is their achivements :”

Applause! Glad to know that a population largely drawn from India’s elite ranks is doing well. So what?

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By: royalbob http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/07/19/the_decade_of_t/comment-page-1/#comment-285605 royalbob Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:21:38 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6603#comment-285605 <p>Nice to know these new data but also the important data of Indian Americans to note is their achivements :</p> <p>A joint Duke University – UC Berkeley study revealed that Indian immigrants have founded more engineering and technology companies from 1995 to 2005 than immigrants from the U.K., China, Taiwan and Japan combined.[18] A University of California, Berkeley, study reported that one-third of the engineers in Silicon Valley are of Indian descent, while 7% of valley hi-tech firms are led by Indian CEOs.</p> <p>Indians along with other Asians, have one of the highest educational qualifications of all ethnic groups in the US. Almost 67% of all Indians have a bachelor’s or high degree (compared to 28% nationally and 44% average for all Asian American groups). Almost 40% of all Indians in the United States have a master’s, doctorate or other professional degree, which is five times the national average.</p> <p>According to the 2000 U.S. Census, Indian American men had "the highest year-round, full-time median earnings ($51,094)", while Indian American women had a median income of $35,173.[23]</p> <p>Indian Americans own 50% of all economy lodges and 35% of all hotels in the United States, which have a combined market value of almost $40 billion.[25] In 2002, there were over 223,000 Asian Indian-owned firms in the U.S., employing more than 610,000 workers, and generating more than $88 billion in revenue.[26]</p> Nice to know these new data but also the important data of Indian Americans to note is their achivements :

A joint Duke University – UC Berkeley study revealed that Indian immigrants have founded more engineering and technology companies from 1995 to 2005 than immigrants from the U.K., China, Taiwan and Japan combined.[18] A University of California, Berkeley, study reported that one-third of the engineers in Silicon Valley are of Indian descent, while 7% of valley hi-tech firms are led by Indian CEOs.

Indians along with other Asians, have one of the highest educational qualifications of all ethnic groups in the US. Almost 67% of all Indians have a bachelor’s or high degree (compared to 28% nationally and 44% average for all Asian American groups). Almost 40% of all Indians in the United States have a master’s, doctorate or other professional degree, which is five times the national average.

According to the 2000 U.S. Census, Indian American men had “the highest year-round, full-time median earnings ($51,094)”, while Indian American women had a median income of $35,173.[23]

Indian Americans own 50% of all economy lodges and 35% of all hotels in the United States, which have a combined market value of almost $40 billion.[25] In 2002, there were over 223,000 Asian Indian-owned firms in the U.S., employing more than 610,000 workers, and generating more than $88 billion in revenue.[26]

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By: Razib Khan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/07/19/the_decade_of_t/comment-page-1/#comment-285568 Razib Khan Tue, 19 Jul 2011 23:52:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6603#comment-285568 <p><i>I suspect the number of multiracials will be lower.</i></p> <p>i think this is a good bet for the reason you give. the TFR for indian americans like most asian american groups is ~2.</p> I suspect the number of multiracials will be lower.

i think this is a good bet for the reason you give. the TFR for indian americans like most asian american groups is ~2.

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By: charlie http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/07/19/the_decade_of_t/comment-page-1/#comment-285567 charlie Tue, 19 Jul 2011 23:47:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6603#comment-285567 <p>I suspect the number of multiracials will be lower. Growth being driven by immmigration, not birth. So 12% multiracial in 2000 might be something like 8% in 2010.</p> I suspect the number of multiracials will be lower. Growth being driven by immmigration, not birth. So 12% multiracial in 2000 might be something like 8% in 2010.

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