Comments on: Bombs Over Bombay, Again. http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/07/13/bombs_over_bomb/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Varun Shekhar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/07/13/bombs_over_bomb/comment-page-3/#comment-285720 Varun Shekhar Thu, 28 Jul 2011 00:16:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6599#comment-285720 <p>" When the Taliban controlled Afghanistan a decade ago, they were fanatical about eliminating everything they considered un-Islamic.</p> <p>Their biggest targets — literally and figuratively — were the two monumental Buddha statues carved out of the sandstone cliffs in central Afghanistan.."</p> <p>The above line, taken from an article this website has posted on its home page, illustrates by one example a massive difference between the Islamic fundamentalists and the so called Hindu fundamentalists or Hindu nationalists.</p> <p>Notice how the Taliban simply hate the Buddha statues because they are non-Islamic, and thus desire to destroy them. Not because a brutal, murderous Buddhist conqueror invaded Afghanistan, supplanted a pre-existing Islamic structure with a Buddhist one, and performed other destructive, murderous actions. No, they hated it simply because it exists.</p> ” When the Taliban controlled Afghanistan a decade ago, they were fanatical about eliminating everything they considered un-Islamic.

Their biggest targets — literally and figuratively — were the two monumental Buddha statues carved out of the sandstone cliffs in central Afghanistan..”

The above line, taken from an article this website has posted on its home page, illustrates by one example a massive difference between the Islamic fundamentalists and the so called Hindu fundamentalists or Hindu nationalists.

Notice how the Taliban simply hate the Buddha statues because they are non-Islamic, and thus desire to destroy them. Not because a brutal, murderous Buddhist conqueror invaded Afghanistan, supplanted a pre-existing Islamic structure with a Buddhist one, and performed other destructive, murderous actions. No, they hated it simply because it exists.

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By: tstm http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/07/13/bombs_over_bomb/comment-page-3/#comment-285683 tstm Wed, 27 Jul 2011 05:32:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6599#comment-285683 <p>bob: if Prabhakaran was a Hindu, then LTTE terrorism has nothing to do with religion. If he was Christian, then yeah, another example of Christian violence.</p> bob: if Prabhakaran was a Hindu, then LTTE terrorism has nothing to do with religion. If he was Christian, then yeah, another example of Christian violence.

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By: bob's your uncle http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/07/13/bombs_over_bomb/comment-page-3/#comment-285682 bob's your uncle Tue, 26 Jul 2011 08:43:23 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6599#comment-285682 <p>"The Sri Lanka conflict was NOT a religious conflict, since many Sri Lankan Tamils were Christians (including some members of the LTTE). It was primarily an ethnic/linguistic conflict between the Sinhalese majority and the Tamil minority."</p> <p>In fact the leadership of the LTTE was primarily Christian, including prabhakaran. The Tamil church is VERY influential in LTTE circles.</p> “The Sri Lanka conflict was NOT a religious conflict, since many Sri Lankan Tamils were Christians (including some members of the LTTE). It was primarily an ethnic/linguistic conflict between the Sinhalese majority and the Tamil minority.”

In fact the leadership of the LTTE was primarily Christian, including prabhakaran. The Tamil church is VERY influential in LTTE circles.

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By: Varun Shekhar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/07/13/bombs_over_bomb/comment-page-3/#comment-285680 Varun Shekhar Tue, 26 Jul 2011 04:40:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6599#comment-285680 <p>Further to your remarks, Brahmastra, here is a definition of good Hindus and bad, from another forum:</p> <p>Definition of Yindoos Good Yindoos = If they succumb to dhimmitude and pay jijya Bright Yindoos = If they become (sic) secular and hate yindooism Yindoo terrorists = If they attack islamists and EJs( Evanjihadis) Yindoo fascists/Lunatics = If they attack Bright Yindoos.</p> Further to your remarks, Brahmastra, here is a definition of good Hindus and bad, from another forum:

Definition of Yindoos Good Yindoos = If they succumb to dhimmitude and pay jijya Bright Yindoos = If they become (sic) secular and hate yindooism Yindoo terrorists = If they attack islamists and EJs( Evanjihadis) Yindoo fascists/Lunatics = If they attack Bright Yindoos.

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By: Brahmastra http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/07/13/bombs_over_bomb/comment-page-3/#comment-285661 Brahmastra Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:53:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6599#comment-285661 <p>Bombay strikes me as a new convert who will go through any lengths to prove her loyalty to the new faith - This is the most dangerous kind of person and cannot be reasoned with.</p> Bombay strikes me as a new convert who will go through any lengths to prove her loyalty to the new faith – This is the most dangerous kind of person and cannot be reasoned with.

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By: Varun Shekhar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/07/13/bombs_over_bomb/comment-page-3/#comment-285659 Varun Shekhar Sat, 23 Jul 2011 18:58:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6599#comment-285659 <p>Even the simple premise of the root or underlying cause of Islamic terror is false. It didn't start in 1993, but with the Pakistan movement, and carried on to the Kashmir Islamist movement. Pakistan was not created because of some grand, secular, humanistic, progressive vision. But because of hate, fear, insecurity, paranoia, xenophobia and fanaticism. Nothing progressive or elevating informed its creation. Nor of the violent Kashmir separatism raging since 1989, 3 years before the Ayodhya event.</p> Even the simple premise of the root or underlying cause of Islamic terror is false. It didn’t start in 1993, but with the Pakistan movement, and carried on to the Kashmir Islamist movement. Pakistan was not created because of some grand, secular, humanistic, progressive vision. But because of hate, fear, insecurity, paranoia, xenophobia and fanaticism. Nothing progressive or elevating informed its creation. Nor of the violent Kashmir separatism raging since 1989, 3 years before the Ayodhya event.

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By: Varun Shekhar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/07/13/bombs_over_bomb/comment-page-2/#comment-285658 Varun Shekhar Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:59:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6599#comment-285658 <p>Bombay once again goes off on a rant about Hindus and their alleged propensity for violence. Her 'general rule' is confined only to what she perceives Hindus to be doing. Not to what Saudi, Iran, the Taliban, China or North Korea are doing.Because then obviously, her 'rule' falls apart, big time.</p> <p>No, the problems in the North East of India are not comparable, ideologically, to the erstwhile East Pakistan. If tens of thousands have been killed, that's because the so called uprising is itself rabidly anti-democratic, anti-plural and regressive. These movements, which are not representative of the majority of the people in Assam, Nagaland etc, are against democracy and pluralism. They are not striving toward more freedom, democracy and pluralism( which at least the Bangladeshis did) , rather less, much less. The Indian government and people are right to oppose them.</p> Bombay once again goes off on a rant about Hindus and their alleged propensity for violence. Her ‘general rule’ is confined only to what she perceives Hindus to be doing. Not to what Saudi, Iran, the Taliban, China or North Korea are doing.Because then obviously, her ‘rule’ falls apart, big time.

No, the problems in the North East of India are not comparable, ideologically, to the erstwhile East Pakistan. If tens of thousands have been killed, that’s because the so called uprising is itself rabidly anti-democratic, anti-plural and regressive. These movements, which are not representative of the majority of the people in Assam, Nagaland etc, are against democracy and pluralism. They are not striving toward more freedom, democracy and pluralism( which at least the Bangladeshis did) , rather less, much less. The Indian government and people are right to oppose them.

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By: TTCUSM http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/07/13/bombs_over_bomb/comment-page-2/#comment-285657 TTCUSM Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:19:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6599#comment-285657 <p>Bombay wrote:</p> <blockquote>Why don't you enlighten us about this "general rule for violence globally" that explains why the Tamil Hindu minority of Sri Lanka resorted to terror against the Buddhist majority and became the original suicide bombers?</blockquote> <p>The Sri Lanka conflict was NOT a religious conflict, since many Sri Lankan Tamils were Christians (including some members of the LTTE). It was primarily an ethnic/linguistic conflict between the Sinhalese majority and the Tamil minority.</p> Bombay wrote:

Why don’t you enlighten us about this “general rule for violence globally” that explains why the Tamil Hindu minority of Sri Lanka resorted to terror against the Buddhist majority and became the original suicide bombers?

The Sri Lanka conflict was NOT a religious conflict, since many Sri Lankan Tamils were Christians (including some members of the LTTE). It was primarily an ethnic/linguistic conflict between the Sinhalese majority and the Tamil minority.

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By: Bombay http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/07/13/bombs_over_bomb/comment-page-2/#comment-285656 Bombay Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:13:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6599#comment-285656 <blockquote> She cleverly, ignorantly or non-chalantly avoids mentioning any *general* rule for violence globally. </blockquote> <p>Why don't you enlighten us about this "general rule for violence globally" that explains why the Tamil Hindu minority of Sri Lanka resorted to terror against the Buddhist majority and became the original suicide bombers? Why Hindu mobs committed pogroms against religious minorities in India? Why untouchable Hindus of India are terrorized, raped and murdered by other Hindus on a daily basis? Why more Muslims have been killed by Muslim terrorists than non-muslims? Why there are politically motivated terrorists such as the right wing Norwegian who bombed Oslo and shot almost a hundred teenagers just a few hours ago?</p> <p>The fact that you are so sure that only Muslims commit violence is proof of your unbelievable stupidity, willful ignorance and shameless deceit. Such lack of intelligence, character and ignorance of history is something that is found to be common in all religious fundamentalists: Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Jew...</p> <blockquote> The people of Bangladesh, formerly East Pakistan, waged an essential progressive struggle for liberation, from the hands of the militarist, Islamist Punjabis. The situation and ideology was not the same as a few Northeasterns desiring to be independent from India. </blockquote> <p>Yeah right there are just a "few" north easterners, Kashmiris, tribals struggling for liberation from India's "accommodating" rule; which is why 100s of thousands of soldiers are deployed to keep them in check, and tens of thousands of them have been killed! This is just another example of your laughable stupidity and dishonesty. So, why are their grievances less valid than that of the bangladeshis just because India is a democracy?</p> She cleverly, ignorantly or non-chalantly avoids mentioning any *general* rule for violence globally.

Why don’t you enlighten us about this “general rule for violence globally” that explains why the Tamil Hindu minority of Sri Lanka resorted to terror against the Buddhist majority and became the original suicide bombers? Why Hindu mobs committed pogroms against religious minorities in India? Why untouchable Hindus of India are terrorized, raped and murdered by other Hindus on a daily basis? Why more Muslims have been killed by Muslim terrorists than non-muslims? Why there are politically motivated terrorists such as the right wing Norwegian who bombed Oslo and shot almost a hundred teenagers just a few hours ago?

The fact that you are so sure that only Muslims commit violence is proof of your unbelievable stupidity, willful ignorance and shameless deceit. Such lack of intelligence, character and ignorance of history is something that is found to be common in all religious fundamentalists: Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Jew…

The people of Bangladesh, formerly East Pakistan, waged an essential progressive struggle for liberation, from the hands of the militarist, Islamist Punjabis. The situation and ideology was not the same as a few Northeasterns desiring to be independent from India.

Yeah right there are just a “few” north easterners, Kashmiris, tribals struggling for liberation from India’s “accommodating” rule; which is why 100s of thousands of soldiers are deployed to keep them in check, and tens of thousands of them have been killed! This is just another example of your laughable stupidity and dishonesty. So, why are their grievances less valid than that of the bangladeshis just because India is a democracy?

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By: Kathan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/07/13/bombs_over_bomb/comment-page-2/#comment-285654 Kathan Sat, 23 Jul 2011 04:40:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6599#comment-285654 <p>An interesting article: How India can tackle terrorism from Pakistan?</p> <p>http://globiansperspective.blogspot.com/2011/07/how-can-india-tackle-terrorism-from.html</p> An interesting article: How India can tackle terrorism from Pakistan?

http://globiansperspective.blogspot.com/2011/07/how-can-india-tackle-terrorism-from.html

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