Comments on: Upma on Top Chef Masters: Breakfast of Champions http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/06/21/upma_on_top_che/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: thecelebritycafe http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/06/21/upma_on_top_che/comment-page-1/#comment-285071 thecelebritycafe Tue, 28 Jun 2011 19:20:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6583#comment-285071 <p>Hi this is Payam Nassirpour from TheCelebrityCafe.com. We just recently spoke with MasterChef Judge Joe Bastianich about the new season. In it Joe talks about his start in the restaurant business, the difference between MasterChef USA and Italia (which he also judges), and the food he will never dare to eat. I'm sure your readers would love to read what Joe has to say. You can find the entire interview here:</p> <p>http://thecelebritycafe.com/feature/interview-joe-bastianich-06-26-2011</p> Hi this is Payam Nassirpour from TheCelebrityCafe.com. We just recently spoke with MasterChef Judge Joe Bastianich about the new season. In it Joe talks about his start in the restaurant business, the difference between MasterChef USA and Italia (which he also judges), and the food he will never dare to eat. I’m sure your readers would love to read what Joe has to say. You can find the entire interview here:

http://thecelebritycafe.com/feature/interview-joe-bastianich-06-26-2011

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By: Ashish http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/06/21/upma_on_top_che/comment-page-1/#comment-284982 Ashish Sat, 25 Jun 2011 05:03:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6583#comment-284982 <blockquote> <p>Cream of wheat is pretty good for you actually: http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/breakfast-cereals/1640/2</p> </blockquote> <p>Did you click on the link? 85% carbs! Cream of Wheat is the very last thing that diabetes-prone Indians should be eating. It is wheat minus the fiber. A typically "white" American meal would offset those carbs with a source of animal protein. But upma doesn't provide that. http://www.rediff.com/news/2005/apr/19inter1.htm</p> <blockquote> <p>Personally, I really can't stand the "desi food is bad" scares, it is ridiculous and almost always ill thought out.</p> </blockquote> <p>If you look at the health of the Indians you know - particularly the vegetarians among them - and then you look at their starch on starch on starch (with some fat thrown in) diets ... well there's a reason they're all falling apart by their 40s (my age). And the tragedy is - it's not necessary.</p> <p>Yes, I'm sure you could construct a theoretically healthy Indian meal. But no Indian I know eats (an Indian diet) like that. And Cream of Wheat is not even an Indian ingredient - it's just a worse version of the original.</p>

Cream of wheat is pretty good for you actually: http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/breakfast-cereals/1640/2

Did you click on the link? 85% carbs! Cream of Wheat is the very last thing that diabetes-prone Indians should be eating. It is wheat minus the fiber. A typically “white” American meal would offset those carbs with a source of animal protein. But upma doesn’t provide that. http://www.rediff.com/news/2005/apr/19inter1.htm

Personally, I really can’t stand the “desi food is bad” scares, it is ridiculous and almost always ill thought out.

If you look at the health of the Indians you know – particularly the vegetarians among them – and then you look at their starch on starch on starch (with some fat thrown in) diets … well there’s a reason they’re all falling apart by their 40s (my age). And the tragedy is – it’s not necessary.

Yes, I’m sure you could construct a theoretically healthy Indian meal. But no Indian I know eats (an Indian diet) like that. And Cream of Wheat is not even an Indian ingredient – it’s just a worse version of the original.

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By: Pavani http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/06/21/upma_on_top_che/comment-page-1/#comment-284971 Pavani Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:28:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6583#comment-284971 <p>I remember having upma about once or twice a week growing up, mostly on weekends as a brunch or breakfast dish, something simple yet a little nicer than having a cold cereal breakfast. As far as recipes, Cardoz's is linked in the post and <a href="http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/padma-lakshmi/couscous-upma-recipe/index.html">here's Padma Lakshmi's couscous upma</a>. More <a href="http://www.cookingandme.com/2009/08/vegetable-rava-upma-recipe.html">non-celebrity ones</a> online too, sorry I haven't tested any of them out, though. I like carrots, peanuts and tiny chopped-up pieces of ginger in mine. I didn't realize there were oats and idli and bread varieties of upma either. Interesting!</p> I remember having upma about once or twice a week growing up, mostly on weekends as a brunch or breakfast dish, something simple yet a little nicer than having a cold cereal breakfast. As far as recipes, Cardoz’s is linked in the post and here’s Padma Lakshmi’s couscous upma. More non-celebrity ones online too, sorry I haven’t tested any of them out, though. I like carrots, peanuts and tiny chopped-up pieces of ginger in mine. I didn’t realize there were oats and idli and bread varieties of upma either. Interesting!

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By: gm http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/06/21/upma_on_top_che/comment-page-1/#comment-284967 gm Fri, 24 Jun 2011 09:23:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6583#comment-284967 <p>It is amazing to see Upma even make it to primetime on the food channel in America. Even if it has been corrupted with non veg ingredients. Although it probably won't get any more air time after this. (I prefer to "corrupt" the recipe with other grains.)</p> <p>I have made Upma with quinoa, both the regular and red varieties. It turned out pretty well, considering quinoa is considered health food. (Since some are talking carbs here.) Some other health conscious people make it with a combination of whole grain bulgur wheat and steel cut oats, and the "cream of wheat" but you can experiment with any grains. My next experiment will be with buckwheat/kasha, but I have a feeling it might end up with a stronger flavor.</p> <p>It's interesting that some Desi's haven't tried south indian food! Being born and raised in the US, I never had north indian food until I was 15 years old (but I did try chapathis. I grew up with traditional American & Americanized Mexican & Americanized Chinese foods outside the house and a rice based traditional south Indian vegetarian diet at home ). The first northern dishes I had were the usual mattar paneer & naan from an Indian restaurant. It was love at first bite. But then the love affair soured after a few years because all you get in most indian restaurants are naans, pooris, paneer dishes , samosas, and chole. The typical Indian restaurant menus get boring after awhile. And,the majority of the dishes all come from one region of Punjab and are usually swimming in grease, oil, salt and over spiced. Even some south indian restaurants are falling into the trap of drowning food in oil. I think drowning foods in oil might make it last longer, like a preservative, but it ends up disgusting. You hardly see traditional stuff like dal baati, or rajma in Indian restaurants.</p> <p>For those who want to try real south indian food, find a traditional south indian and ask for a dinner invitation. Especially on the days they make dosai, rava idli, akki roti, pesarattu, avalakki, pongal, a good rasam, gojjus,etc. Some Hindu temples sell tamarind rice (puliyogare) and lemon rice as fund raisers, but it is usually cold, mass produced and doesn't taste as good as home made. But it's acceptable if you can zap it in a microwave.</p> It is amazing to see Upma even make it to primetime on the food channel in America. Even if it has been corrupted with non veg ingredients. Although it probably won’t get any more air time after this. (I prefer to “corrupt” the recipe with other grains.)

I have made Upma with quinoa, both the regular and red varieties. It turned out pretty well, considering quinoa is considered health food. (Since some are talking carbs here.) Some other health conscious people make it with a combination of whole grain bulgur wheat and steel cut oats, and the “cream of wheat” but you can experiment with any grains. My next experiment will be with buckwheat/kasha, but I have a feeling it might end up with a stronger flavor.

It’s interesting that some Desi’s haven’t tried south indian food! Being born and raised in the US, I never had north indian food until I was 15 years old (but I did try chapathis. I grew up with traditional American & Americanized Mexican & Americanized Chinese foods outside the house and a rice based traditional south Indian vegetarian diet at home ). The first northern dishes I had were the usual mattar paneer & naan from an Indian restaurant. It was love at first bite. But then the love affair soured after a few years because all you get in most indian restaurants are naans, pooris, paneer dishes , samosas, and chole. The typical Indian restaurant menus get boring after awhile. And,the majority of the dishes all come from one region of Punjab and are usually swimming in grease, oil, salt and over spiced. Even some south indian restaurants are falling into the trap of drowning food in oil. I think drowning foods in oil might make it last longer, like a preservative, but it ends up disgusting. You hardly see traditional stuff like dal baati, or rajma in Indian restaurants.

For those who want to try real south indian food, find a traditional south indian and ask for a dinner invitation. Especially on the days they make dosai, rava idli, akki roti, pesarattu, avalakki, pongal, a good rasam, gojjus,etc. Some Hindu temples sell tamarind rice (puliyogare) and lemon rice as fund raisers, but it is usually cold, mass produced and doesn’t taste as good as home made. But it’s acceptable if you can zap it in a microwave.

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By: gm http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/06/21/upma_on_top_che/comment-page-1/#comment-284966 gm Fri, 24 Jun 2011 08:34:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6583#comment-284966 <p>Adding chicken stock and mushrooms to Upma is a big sin for the traditional crowd (or Hindus and Jains in general). Instead of chicken stock, why not just add vegetable stock. I personally have nothing against mushrooms, but lots of traditional types don't like or touch mushrooms because they are considered unclean.</p> <p>I personally love upma wrapped up in pessaratu (moong dal type dosai). That is due to my inner andhra.</p> Adding chicken stock and mushrooms to Upma is a big sin for the traditional crowd (or Hindus and Jains in general). Instead of chicken stock, why not just add vegetable stock. I personally have nothing against mushrooms, but lots of traditional types don’t like or touch mushrooms because they are considered unclean.

I personally love upma wrapped up in pessaratu (moong dal type dosai). That is due to my inner andhra.

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By: NotG http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/06/21/upma_on_top_che/comment-page-1/#comment-284947 NotG Thu, 23 Jun 2011 11:14:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6583#comment-284947 <p>Ashish: "I love to cook and eat upma, but be aware that if you prepare it using Cream of Wheat (aka wheat minus all fiber), it is quite an unhealthy dish, particularly if you have typically Indian diabetic tendencies. Yeah, I was surprised too. The original suji-based dish is probably no health food either, but it's not as bad for you. "</p> <p>Cream of wheat is pretty good for you actually:</p> <p>http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/breakfast-cereals/1640/2</p> <p>Suji/Semolina isn't all that bad either:</p> <p>http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5731/2</p> <p>Per calorie, both these foods are extremely good, and an important source of iron in the desi diet. If I remember right, both cream of wheat and semolina are the endosperm of wheat grains (soft and durum varieties respectively), the difference just lies in the type of wheat.</p> <p>Sorry to be rude, but if you eat too many calories, the fault isn't the food's. It is yours. Personally, I really can't stand the "desi food is bad" scares, it is ridiculous and almost always ill thought out.</p> Ashish: “I love to cook and eat upma, but be aware that if you prepare it using Cream of Wheat (aka wheat minus all fiber), it is quite an unhealthy dish, particularly if you have typically Indian diabetic tendencies. Yeah, I was surprised too. The original suji-based dish is probably no health food either, but it’s not as bad for you. “

Cream of wheat is pretty good for you actually:

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/breakfast-cereals/1640/2

Suji/Semolina isn’t all that bad either:

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5731/2

Per calorie, both these foods are extremely good, and an important source of iron in the desi diet. If I remember right, both cream of wheat and semolina are the endosperm of wheat grains (soft and durum varieties respectively), the difference just lies in the type of wheat.

Sorry to be rude, but if you eat too many calories, the fault isn’t the food’s. It is yours. Personally, I really can’t stand the “desi food is bad” scares, it is ridiculous and almost always ill thought out.

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By: Razib Khan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/06/21/upma_on_top_che/comment-page-1/#comment-284944 Razib Khan Thu, 23 Jun 2011 05:53:42 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6583#comment-284944 <p>blog post will come on that topic.</p> <p>re: the food looks nice. my mom makes something similar looking, but with mustard oil, not seeds, of course!</p> blog post will come on that topic.

re: the food looks nice. my mom makes something similar looking, but with mustard oil, not seeds, of course!

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By: Ashish http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/06/21/upma_on_top_che/comment-page-1/#comment-284942 Ashish Thu, 23 Jun 2011 04:28:05 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6583#comment-284942 <p>I love to cook and eat upma, but be aware that if you prepare it using Cream of Wheat (aka wheat minus all fiber), it is quite an unhealthy dish, particularly if you have typically Indian diabetic tendencies. Yeah, I was surprised too.</p> <p>The original suji-based dish is probably no health food either, but it's not as bad for you.</p> I love to cook and eat upma, but be aware that if you prepare it using Cream of Wheat (aka wheat minus all fiber), it is quite an unhealthy dish, particularly if you have typically Indian diabetic tendencies. Yeah, I was surprised too.

The original suji-based dish is probably no health food either, but it’s not as bad for you.

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By: Alina_M http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/06/21/upma_on_top_che/comment-page-1/#comment-284941 Alina_M Thu, 23 Jun 2011 04:02:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6583#comment-284941 <p>@Pravin Praveen - I don't want to hijack this thread, but Razib Khan posted about the incident over on Brown Pundits if you're interested in commenting about the issue: <url>http://www.brownpundits.com/2011/06/22/the-assimilated-model-minority/</url></p> @Pravin Praveen – I don’t want to hijack this thread, but Razib Khan posted about the incident over on Brown Pundits if you’re interested in commenting about the issue: http://www.brownpundits.com/2011/06/22/the-assimilated-model-minority/

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By: Pravin Praveen http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/06/21/upma_on_top_che/comment-page-1/#comment-284940 Pravin Praveen Thu, 23 Jun 2011 03:40:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6583#comment-284940 <p>Yo Dad, not all southern families eat upma everyday. I would say twice a week may be closer to the truth. In my own family, it's less than that, but I notice my cousin's families have it once in a while. It is not a favorite of mine though I don't hate it.</p> <p>I hope Pavani didn't mind the minor hijacking of the thread. But in response to John Jacobi's comment, oh, it doesn't matter what the context is. Anyone with such a cartoonish accent is a snob.And she didn't even go to a top college and she has been cited on other blogs as looking down on SUNY as an educational option. I think we need a sepiamutiny blog item on something I noticed among desis "I am very educated" as an excuse for bad behvior.</p> Yo Dad, not all southern families eat upma everyday. I would say twice a week may be closer to the truth. In my own family, it’s less than that, but I notice my cousin’s families have it once in a while. It is not a favorite of mine though I don’t hate it.

I hope Pavani didn’t mind the minor hijacking of the thread. But in response to John Jacobi’s comment, oh, it doesn’t matter what the context is. Anyone with such a cartoonish accent is a snob.And she didn’t even go to a top college and she has been cited on other blogs as looking down on SUNY as an educational option. I think we need a sepiamutiny blog item on something I noticed among desis “I am very educated” as an excuse for bad behvior.

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