Comments on: Shed Your Sleeves: Lose the Skin-Lightening Creams http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/06/08/were_only_a_few/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: pnr k. http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/06/08/were_only_a_few/comment-page-1/#comment-289429 pnr k. Thu, 12 Apr 2012 02:12:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6573#comment-289429 <p>this is probably my final comment - has anyone noticed how certain flowers especially roses become deeper in colour as one gets closer to the center of the rose? it can be like that with body parts and the skin covering them - i prefer to use the word leather instead of skin - in punjabi the word for skin is the same as the word for leather - that's why i avoid leather whenever possible - people think people are obsessed with the coloration - some are, most aren't - what's inside is important - the cleanliness/chastity - i find it a sad how some societies promote unchaste behaviour and then "reclaim their chastity" - what a joke - what barbarism - anyway, some flowers become darker in colour towards the center - some body parts are variegated shades of brown - let's face it, the warmth of brown is peerless - matchless - desert sand/arctic snow represent infertility and coldness - death, just like black - yellow in traditional english thought stands for cowardice - interesting as in vedic symbolism yellow can be associated with senseless violence and cruelty - (vrishik) - to reiterate brown has links to bliss and ultimate freedom- mukti. getting back to skin care - one would be surprised at the wonders of exfoliation with correct sattvic ingredients and ghee massage helps with everything, including insomnia - everyone, just ignore the ignorant "people" out there who make cruel comments about brown - violet+green creates brown - violet is divinity/royalty and green is bliss (Nature) - nothing beautifies quite like Naam. Namaste</p> this is probably my final comment – has anyone noticed how certain flowers especially roses become deeper in colour as one gets closer to the center of the rose? it can be like that with body parts and the skin covering them – i prefer to use the word leather instead of skin – in punjabi the word for skin is the same as the word for leather – that’s why i avoid leather whenever possible – people think people are obsessed with the coloration – some are, most aren’t – what’s inside is important – the cleanliness/chastity – i find it a sad how some societies promote unchaste behaviour and then “reclaim their chastity” – what a joke – what barbarism – anyway, some flowers become darker in colour towards the center – some body parts are variegated shades of brown – let’s face it, the warmth of brown is peerless – matchless – desert sand/arctic snow represent infertility and coldness – death, just like black – yellow in traditional english thought stands for cowardice – interesting as in vedic symbolism yellow can be associated with senseless violence and cruelty – (vrishik) – to reiterate brown has links to bliss and ultimate freedom- mukti. getting back to skin care – one would be surprised at the wonders of exfoliation with correct sattvic ingredients and ghee massage helps with everything, including insomnia – everyone, just ignore the ignorant “people” out there who make cruel comments about brown – violet+green creates brown – violet is divinity/royalty and green is bliss (Nature) – nothing beautifies quite like Naam. Namaste

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By: Your Questions About White Skin | Bleaching Of Skin http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/06/08/were_only_a_few/comment-page-1/#comment-286867 Your Questions About White Skin | Bleaching Of Skin Fri, 07 Oct 2011 20:43:36 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6573#comment-286867 <p>[...] but like, not often at all, probably like once every 2 or 3 months. :)Powered by Yahoo! AnswersRobert asks…White Skin?My friend has fairly white skin but on her legs it looks super white! She h...te Skin?My friend has fairly white skin but on her legs it looks super white! She has tried [...]</p> [...] but like, not often at all, probably like once every 2 or 3 months. :) Powered by Yahoo! AnswersRobert asks…White Skin?My friend has fairly white skin but on her legs it looks super white! She h…te Skin?My friend has fairly white skin but on her legs it looks super white! She has tried [...]

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By: Unilever http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/06/08/were_only_a_few/comment-page-1/#comment-284899 Unilever Mon, 20 Jun 2011 05:09:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6573#comment-284899 <p>@Meera: I don't think my bottle of La Mer does this: From <a href="http://www.unileverme.com/brands/personalcarebrands/fairandlovely.aspx">Unilever Fair & Lovely</a></p> <p>"All the active ingredients in the Fair & Lovely formulation function synergistically to lighten skin color through a process that is natural, reversible and totally safe." The <a href="http://www.unileverme.com/Images/fairlovely%20525x114%20copy_tcm120-84363.jpg">picture</a> above the text makes it pretty clear that the product is not targeted toward people with local skin discoloration.</p> @Meera: I don’t think my bottle of La Mer does this: From Unilever Fair & Lovely

“All the active ingredients in the Fair & Lovely formulation function synergistically to lighten skin color through a process that is natural, reversible and totally safe.” The picture above the text makes it pretty clear that the product is not targeted toward people with local skin discoloration.

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By: Aarav_Shah http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/06/08/were_only_a_few/comment-page-1/#comment-284891 Aarav_Shah Mon, 20 Jun 2011 01:00:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6573#comment-284891 <p>Poem: "Unforgivable Brownness"</p> <p>My mind must be sick A higher concentration of melanin is a curse It's far from a gift By most racist, I guess we are being viewed as less than this shit An untouchable, uncomfortable, unforgivably brown A mascot for the ills and the perils of life I think I've had enough.</p> <p>I think I want to be white.</p> <p>I want an English arrogance I'm not trying to be funny I want to look you in the eye and tell you this is mine country Racially privileged, so I'm better than you When whites sets the odds, who's betting on you Whites sets the rules and the terms and the laws My dictionary states that whites is spiritually pure The ability to walk free over all of God's land Never considered a suspect, not even with blood stained hands</p> <p>White right, so I can tell other races they're wrong Look down a straight nose and ask us, why browns can't get along I want to sing "Rule Britannia" embedded with pride And know that no one has ever made slaves with the white man</p> <p>I want to be white.</p> <p>My sister feels the same Because she straightens her hair and bleaches her face Refuses to go out on dates with men of her own race A demonstration of self-hate of which she's unashamed</p> <p>Prejudgments have labeled us aggressive and tactless An unwelcome guest because of my unforgivable brownness Brain washed to believed that we are the wretched of the Earth So every-time I glances inside a mirror, it hurts.</p> Poem: “Unforgivable Brownness”

My mind must be sick A higher concentration of melanin is a curse It’s far from a gift By most racist, I guess we are being viewed as less than this shit An untouchable, uncomfortable, unforgivably brown A mascot for the ills and the perils of life I think I’ve had enough.

I think I want to be white.

I want an English arrogance I’m not trying to be funny I want to look you in the eye and tell you this is mine country Racially privileged, so I’m better than you When whites sets the odds, who’s betting on you Whites sets the rules and the terms and the laws My dictionary states that whites is spiritually pure The ability to walk free over all of God’s land Never considered a suspect, not even with blood stained hands

White right, so I can tell other races they’re wrong Look down a straight nose and ask us, why browns can’t get along I want to sing “Rule Britannia” embedded with pride And know that no one has ever made slaves with the white man

I want to be white.

My sister feels the same Because she straightens her hair and bleaches her face Refuses to go out on dates with men of her own race A demonstration of self-hate of which she’s unashamed

Prejudgments have labeled us aggressive and tactless An unwelcome guest because of my unforgivable brownness Brain washed to believed that we are the wretched of the Earth So every-time I glances inside a mirror, it hurts.

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By: Meera Patel http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/06/08/were_only_a_few/comment-page-1/#comment-284885 Meera Patel Sun, 19 Jun 2011 04:01:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6573#comment-284885 <p>I totally agree. This whole "skin lightening" debate sometimes gets blown out of proportion. As medium-toned women we need to embrace the fact that we are prone to hyperpigmentation and other skin discolorations from melanin overproduction. A lot of products out there aren't meant to make you look whiter necessarily, but is intended to correct this common problem.</p> <p>I've had issues with both sunspots and discolorations. My father has a huge spot on his cheek the size of a baseball about 4-5 tones darker than the rest of his face and he has been using hydroquinone 2% to correct the problem. Does that make him somehow less proud to be brown-skinned? No. He simply wants to look more presentable. I also have problems with underarm discolorations though I feel like licorice extract in this Nivea formulation may not be strong enough to correct the problem.</p> <p>I really find it hilarious to see desis of my generation come out gunning against lightening products with their liberal "outside of the box" thinking. Yes, we can all agree that the desire to have lighter skin-tone is an antiquated concept, but please do your research and realize that discolored skin is very common amongst us and we can't vilify people that want to use these products to correct the problem. And also, READ the product labels. "Fair and Lovely" has never had bleaching ingredients in it and its antioxidant-rich formula is comparable to high-end face lotions you find at stores like Nordstroms but at the fraction of the cost.</p> I totally agree. This whole “skin lightening” debate sometimes gets blown out of proportion. As medium-toned women we need to embrace the fact that we are prone to hyperpigmentation and other skin discolorations from melanin overproduction. A lot of products out there aren’t meant to make you look whiter necessarily, but is intended to correct this common problem.

I’ve had issues with both sunspots and discolorations. My father has a huge spot on his cheek the size of a baseball about 4-5 tones darker than the rest of his face and he has been using hydroquinone 2% to correct the problem. Does that make him somehow less proud to be brown-skinned? No. He simply wants to look more presentable. I also have problems with underarm discolorations though I feel like licorice extract in this Nivea formulation may not be strong enough to correct the problem.

I really find it hilarious to see desis of my generation come out gunning against lightening products with their liberal “outside of the box” thinking. Yes, we can all agree that the desire to have lighter skin-tone is an antiquated concept, but please do your research and realize that discolored skin is very common amongst us and we can’t vilify people that want to use these products to correct the problem. And also, READ the product labels. “Fair and Lovely” has never had bleaching ingredients in it and its antioxidant-rich formula is comparable to high-end face lotions you find at stores like Nordstroms but at the fraction of the cost.

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By: Pravin Praveen http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/06/08/were_only_a_few/comment-page-1/#comment-284763 Pravin Praveen Tue, 14 Jun 2011 00:43:01 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6573#comment-284763 <p>For those women of color - black, Indian, hispanic, whatever- this is not a big issue. You want to feel good about your underarms, just be happy you are not as digusting as the character Monique plays in Precious where she is in some ridiculously tight outift sweating with hairy unsightly underarms in front a of TV.</p> <p>Speaking of that movie, Monique has some weird white chalky like complexion at the end of the movie like somoene took some heavy dose of baby powder and applied it on her face.</p> For those women of color – black, Indian, hispanic, whatever- this is not a big issue. You want to feel good about your underarms, just be happy you are not as digusting as the character Monique plays in Precious where she is in some ridiculously tight outift sweating with hairy unsightly underarms in front a of TV.

Speaking of that movie, Monique has some weird white chalky like complexion at the end of the movie like somoene took some heavy dose of baby powder and applied it on her face.

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By: Ena http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/06/08/were_only_a_few/comment-page-1/#comment-284715 Ena Mon, 13 Jun 2011 03:20:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6573#comment-284715 <p>YogaFire: Everyone has their goals in life for the battles they want to fight and the issues they want to tackle. It might not be your personal goal but it is one of mine. Exactly what kind of compelling case do you need to judge what's worthy of your time? If it's not "cosmetics" why not move on to another topic instead sifting through the comments here? I'm not sure about you but to me it feels really good to find a cause that you want to work towards.</p> YogaFire: Everyone has their goals in life for the battles they want to fight and the issues they want to tackle. It might not be your personal goal but it is one of mine. Exactly what kind of compelling case do you need to judge what’s worthy of your time? If it’s not “cosmetics” why not move on to another topic instead sifting through the comments here? I’m not sure about you but to me it feels really good to find a cause that you want to work towards.

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By: n k http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/06/08/were_only_a_few/comment-page-1/#comment-284670 n k Sat, 11 Jun 2011 01:24:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6573#comment-284670 <p>my mother and sister have completely even skin - translucent Jat skin with natural pink in the cheeks - no dark patches ( i asked them and i've seen their knees, elbows etc) my dad (Jat also of course)is so translucent he gets sunburns (red) - he has brown hands/white feet -twice i've burned (reddened by sun - caused by quack medication i think)- my skin is mostly even-- as simple as exfoliation and moisturization - women's thighs shouldn't touch - one has to be in shape and stay in shape otherwise the skin touches and darkens/chafes - it takes at least 28 days to notice a difference as that's the cycle for skin cell renewal - a bit longer the "worse" the problem - do this religiously - lemon/baking powder/besan/oatmeal is great -i know this works because i've tried it - also, don't obsess over it: the more these little things are ignored, the faster they get better - the body has an incredible healing power: harness it - stay away from quacks and quack products - don't put anything on your skin that you wouldn't put in your mouth - i always thought the word "desi" referred to clarified butter - ghee is great for massage - don't cook with oil - it stinks and is not sattvic - drink raw milk etc. cultivate pyar(love) for the divine with total dhyan/1pointed concentration/aka zen) and you will develop bhaag - a very rare but to die for kind of beauty - extend love to all of creation&the Creator otherwise it's not love, just false attachement. (also, waxing naturally exfoliates - shaving damages skin - it doesn't hurt if you breathe and the hair has been trimmed - otherwise just leave the hair be - to reiterate: dress modestly - it's much more beautiful than the undershirts that pass for shirts and dresses that look like slips - skin above the bosom is more delicate than skin on hands - protect it - for that matter hands should be covered depending on where you live - vitamin d can be had by exposing forearms - only mongoloids/negroids and some albinoids ie. some euros appear hairless and the mongoloid/negroid mix (ie. hebrew) - forearm hair is quite lovely and desirable - an italian study has proven sunscreen is carcinogenic - avoid the company of hypocrites even if they are family members.. it's not just the desert/abhrahamic paths that demand modesty - check out hinduism.co.za: any women that arouses lust in a man's heart due to her clothing incurs the sin - not the man - the gyani at the Gurughar where i lived agrees and so do iranian Masters. the aesthetic of hairless skin is arab (they've mixed somewhat with sub-saharan africans- my german acquaintances don't shave nor does my punjabi mother - iran was influenced by arabic concepts of aesthetics that's why the remove body hair, or so i've heard - unmarried iranians don't touch their eyebrows and on a sikh site i heard leaving eyebrows natural increases pleasure (close to third eye - my mother and sister have never touched their eyebrows - i made the mistake of letting an italian aesthetician "do" my eyebrows because she was begging me - what i'm trying to say is that which is natural is more beautiful because it is more divine - television, internet uglify - listen to music/make music that's better. bye for now - have a safe&fun-filled summer everyone</p> my mother and sister have completely even skin – translucent Jat skin with natural pink in the cheeks – no dark patches ( i asked them and i’ve seen their knees, elbows etc) my dad (Jat also of course)is so translucent he gets sunburns (red) – he has brown hands/white feet -twice i’ve burned (reddened by sun – caused by quack medication i think)- my skin is mostly even– as simple as exfoliation and moisturization – women’s thighs shouldn’t touch – one has to be in shape and stay in shape otherwise the skin touches and darkens/chafes – it takes at least 28 days to notice a difference as that’s the cycle for skin cell renewal – a bit longer the “worse” the problem – do this religiously – lemon/baking powder/besan/oatmeal is great -i know this works because i’ve tried it – also, don’t obsess over it: the more these little things are ignored, the faster they get better – the body has an incredible healing power: harness it – stay away from quacks and quack products – don’t put anything on your skin that you wouldn’t put in your mouth – i always thought the word “desi” referred to clarified butter – ghee is great for massage – don’t cook with oil – it stinks and is not sattvic – drink raw milk etc. cultivate pyar(love) for the divine with total dhyan/1pointed concentration/aka zen) and you will develop bhaag – a very rare but to die for kind of beauty – extend love to all of creation&the Creator otherwise it’s not love, just false attachement. (also, waxing naturally exfoliates – shaving damages skin – it doesn’t hurt if you breathe and the hair has been trimmed – otherwise just leave the hair be – to reiterate: dress modestly – it’s much more beautiful than the undershirts that pass for shirts and dresses that look like slips – skin above the bosom is more delicate than skin on hands – protect it – for that matter hands should be covered depending on where you live – vitamin d can be had by exposing forearms – only mongoloids/negroids and some albinoids ie. some euros appear hairless and the mongoloid/negroid mix (ie. hebrew) – forearm hair is quite lovely and desirable – an italian study has proven sunscreen is carcinogenic – avoid the company of hypocrites even if they are family members.. it’s not just the desert/abhrahamic paths that demand modesty – check out hinduism.co.za: any women that arouses lust in a man’s heart due to her clothing incurs the sin – not the man – the gyani at the Gurughar where i lived agrees and so do iranian Masters. the aesthetic of hairless skin is arab (they’ve mixed somewhat with sub-saharan africans- my german acquaintances don’t shave nor does my punjabi mother – iran was influenced by arabic concepts of aesthetics that’s why the remove body hair, or so i’ve heard – unmarried iranians don’t touch their eyebrows and on a sikh site i heard leaving eyebrows natural increases pleasure (close to third eye – my mother and sister have never touched their eyebrows – i made the mistake of letting an italian aesthetician “do” my eyebrows because she was begging me – what i’m trying to say is that which is natural is more beautiful because it is more divine – television, internet uglify – listen to music/make music that’s better. bye for now – have a safe&fun-filled summer everyone

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By: Yoga Fire http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/06/08/were_only_a_few/comment-page-1/#comment-284660 Yoga Fire Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:19:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6573#comment-284660 <blockquote>Dark skin hides discoloration well, partly why darker women age better, so the idea that this is targeted mostly to women of color is ridiculous to me.</blockquote> <p>Melanin also reduces the damage that sunlight can do to your skin.</p> <blockquote>Last year I lived in India for 1 year and the only thing that I can come up with is to have a huge Public Service Ad Campaign that counteracts these television commercials.</blockquote> <p>Why exactly is <u>this</u> the great battle of our times? Seriously, it’s cosmetics. Every society is going to have cultural beauty standards. Is there an actual compelling case for this to be worth anyone’s time or can I just safely file this under <a href=”http://whitewhine.com/”>White Whine?</a></p> Dark skin hides discoloration well, partly why darker women age better, so the idea that this is targeted mostly to women of color is ridiculous to me.

Melanin also reduces the damage that sunlight can do to your skin.

Last year I lived in India for 1 year and the only thing that I can come up with is to have a huge Public Service Ad Campaign that counteracts these television commercials.

Why exactly is this the great battle of our times? Seriously, it’s cosmetics. Every society is going to have cultural beauty standards. Is there an actual compelling case for this to be worth anyone’s time or can I just safely file this under White Whine?

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