Comments on: Ricky Gill: The Young (but not Green) Guy from Lodi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/05/28/ricky_gill_the/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: rah http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/05/28/ricky_gill_the/comment-page-1/#comment-287082 rah Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:46:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6562#comment-287082 <p>Ha ha, I love the Bill Maher story. So good.</p> Ha ha, I love the Bill Maher story. So good.

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By: SoTrue http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/05/28/ricky_gill_the/comment-page-1/#comment-284549 SoTrue Sun, 05 Jun 2011 00:48:34 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6562#comment-284549 <p>Social climbing is the right description. It's beaten into our heads to be the best - win the science fair, become a doctor, have perfect children, etc. Some take it so far, in fact, as to become Republicans because it's an easier transition to being the best, or in other words, being elected to a public office when the incumbent is a Democrat or if you live in some backwards place like Louisiana. This guy sucks so much ass I can't even begin to figure out why he's the way he is.</p> <p>The Central Valley of CA is full of old-time bigots who probably were openly racist to him and his family AND who were probably all Republicans. But for some reason, this dude defects! Why?!?!?!?!</p> <p>OK, I get that a lot of our parents were Republicans for tax reasons, but seriously, how many US born and raised desis do you know who are legitimately Repubs? Like 5, 6? This is because of the bigotry and racism 99% of us experienced as children turned us away from that whole group of people for life. Sometimes you'll meet some desi-american republicans (normally born in early 70's who came of age in the 80's when it was considered cool to be a repub), and they tell you that they're a republican. I feel that it's ok to either laugh in their face or treat them as if they have killed their own grandmothers. It's fair treatment considering their betrayal to us.</p> <p>For instance, I went to a taping of the Bill Maher show once and the only other brown guy in the audience was this weak looking dude who looked like a disheveled professor in his blazer and wrinkled khakis. After the taping in the parking lot, his white buddy started bashing liburalz and Bill Maher. Dude, was nodding along until he saw me. I didn't even have to say anything. I just looked at him. He stopped nodding along to his buddy, and his eyes locked on mine. I shook my head, ever so imperceptibly, and HE KNEW WHAT I MEANT! He knew he was in the wrong and he got caught.</p> <p>There are 2 remedies for this problem. 1. STOP TRYING TO BE WHAT YOU'RE NOT! So many desis have so much pressure to be a doctor or a Success in life that we forget to be ourselves. I have one cousin in Mississippi and who is probably a Republican who mispronounces his own name to fit in with people. STOP IT! JUST MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE AND BE YOURSELF! 2. DESI PARENTS NEED TO STOP MOVING TO BUMFUCK PLACES WHERE THEIR KIDS BECOME REPUBLICANS How many of you know Asian, black or other people of color and came to realize that none of these people grew up in Redneckville, Alabama? Their parents were smart and moved to cities where they weren't the only non-whites. How many desis do you know who grew up in Indiana or South Carolina or Nebraska? TONS! And do their parents know what damage they do to these poor kids? My cousin stupidly moved to a small town in Georgia because he could be the only hematologist or something in that town. Great for him until his kids are so confused that they become Republicans. So much unnecessary trauma.</p> Social climbing is the right description. It’s beaten into our heads to be the best – win the science fair, become a doctor, have perfect children, etc. Some take it so far, in fact, as to become Republicans because it’s an easier transition to being the best, or in other words, being elected to a public office when the incumbent is a Democrat or if you live in some backwards place like Louisiana. This guy sucks so much ass I can’t even begin to figure out why he’s the way he is.

The Central Valley of CA is full of old-time bigots who probably were openly racist to him and his family AND who were probably all Republicans. But for some reason, this dude defects! Why?!?!?!?!

OK, I get that a lot of our parents were Republicans for tax reasons, but seriously, how many US born and raised desis do you know who are legitimately Repubs? Like 5, 6? This is because of the bigotry and racism 99% of us experienced as children turned us away from that whole group of people for life. Sometimes you’ll meet some desi-american republicans (normally born in early 70′s who came of age in the 80′s when it was considered cool to be a repub), and they tell you that they’re a republican. I feel that it’s ok to either laugh in their face or treat them as if they have killed their own grandmothers. It’s fair treatment considering their betrayal to us.

For instance, I went to a taping of the Bill Maher show once and the only other brown guy in the audience was this weak looking dude who looked like a disheveled professor in his blazer and wrinkled khakis. After the taping in the parking lot, his white buddy started bashing liburalz and Bill Maher. Dude, was nodding along until he saw me. I didn’t even have to say anything. I just looked at him. He stopped nodding along to his buddy, and his eyes locked on mine. I shook my head, ever so imperceptibly, and HE KNEW WHAT I MEANT! He knew he was in the wrong and he got caught.

There are 2 remedies for this problem. 1. STOP TRYING TO BE WHAT YOU’RE NOT! So many desis have so much pressure to be a doctor or a Success in life that we forget to be ourselves. I have one cousin in Mississippi and who is probably a Republican who mispronounces his own name to fit in with people. STOP IT! JUST MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE AND BE YOURSELF! 2. DESI PARENTS NEED TO STOP MOVING TO BUMFUCK PLACES WHERE THEIR KIDS BECOME REPUBLICANS How many of you know Asian, black or other people of color and came to realize that none of these people grew up in Redneckville, Alabama? Their parents were smart and moved to cities where they weren’t the only non-whites. How many desis do you know who grew up in Indiana or South Carolina or Nebraska? TONS! And do their parents know what damage they do to these poor kids? My cousin stupidly moved to a small town in Georgia because he could be the only hematologist or something in that town. Great for him until his kids are so confused that they become Republicans. So much unnecessary trauma.

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By: Blue http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/05/28/ricky_gill_the/comment-page-1/#comment-284436 Blue Tue, 31 May 2011 22:29:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6562#comment-284436 <p>"Because the Jatt Sikh farming community of Fresno and Central California work HARD, they are single-agenda voters who are AGAINST government handouts to people who don't work as hard as they do"</p> <p>This observation is not true, as most farmers take advantage of social services & collect social security benefits on their elderly. It also goes against their belief of communal living & sharing.</p> <p>Typically, Jatt Sikh farmers align themselves with a party that economically beneficial to them. In Punjab, they mostly vote for Akali party, but switch to Congress party if it favor their cause. Most farmers are not into ideological political agendas such as abortion, gay rights etc. They also view politics as a way to power, fame & prestige than changing the world. Educated Punjabis are mostly Democrats like rest of immigrants.</p> <p>Ricky Gill does come across “whatever suites to get on a hill” politician.</p> “Because the Jatt Sikh farming community of Fresno and Central California work HARD, they are single-agenda voters who are AGAINST government handouts to people who don’t work as hard as they do”

This observation is not true, as most farmers take advantage of social services & collect social security benefits on their elderly. It also goes against their belief of communal living & sharing.

Typically, Jatt Sikh farmers align themselves with a party that economically beneficial to them. In Punjab, they mostly vote for Akali party, but switch to Congress party if it favor their cause. Most farmers are not into ideological political agendas such as abortion, gay rights etc. They also view politics as a way to power, fame & prestige than changing the world. Educated Punjabis are mostly Democrats like rest of immigrants.

Ricky Gill does come across “whatever suites to get on a hill” politician.

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By: Hassan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/05/28/ricky_gill_the/comment-page-1/#comment-284431 Hassan Tue, 31 May 2011 19:46:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6562#comment-284431 <p>... and what side bashed Indians over outsourcing?</p> … and what side bashed Indians over outsourcing?

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By: Paul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/05/28/ricky_gill_the/comment-page-1/#comment-284430 Paul Tue, 31 May 2011 16:14:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6562#comment-284430 <p>ithunk, you're funny. If anything, the turbanophobia would probably lead many younger punjabis to run in the republican direction just to prove how down they are (no Jay Sean) with local politics. It's a common phenomenon with brown immigrants (Cubans, Mexicans, Persians, Lebanese, desis, etc.), but per RealDesi, no political alignment is fully off-limits.</p> <p>But I do agree with you and American Brown. No honor attaches itself to aligning with a group that turns two blind eyes to glaring, endogamous racism and xenophobia; at least for the children of immigrants. But it's their right to sell out, so whatever. (That's also why I'm totally against putting Brown faces in office simply because they're Brown.)</p> <p>Per this candidate, PG is spot on. This Gill sounds like a typical, play-it-safe, dull as dishwater social climber. He needs to say or do something ridiculous to get noticed in CA. Maybe get busted with an underage, undocumented, transexual prostitute?</p> ithunk, you’re funny. If anything, the turbanophobia would probably lead many younger punjabis to run in the republican direction just to prove how down they are (no Jay Sean) with local politics. It’s a common phenomenon with brown immigrants (Cubans, Mexicans, Persians, Lebanese, desis, etc.), but per RealDesi, no political alignment is fully off-limits.

But I do agree with you and American Brown. No honor attaches itself to aligning with a group that turns two blind eyes to glaring, endogamous racism and xenophobia; at least for the children of immigrants. But it’s their right to sell out, so whatever. (That’s also why I’m totally against putting Brown faces in office simply because they’re Brown.)

Per this candidate, PG is spot on. This Gill sounds like a typical, play-it-safe, dull as dishwater social climber. He needs to say or do something ridiculous to get noticed in CA. Maybe get busted with an underage, undocumented, transexual prostitute?

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By: RealDesi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/05/28/ricky_gill_the/comment-page-1/#comment-284416 RealDesi Mon, 30 May 2011 08:43:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6562#comment-284416 <p>That's crazy. Desis can hold a wide range of political views. Why are you so illiberal? Raped by Pashtuns?</p> That’s crazy. Desis can hold a wide range of political views. Why are you so illiberal? Raped by Pashtuns?

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By: American Brown http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/05/28/ricky_gill_the/comment-page-1/#comment-284415 American Brown Mon, 30 May 2011 05:38:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6562#comment-284415 <p>I am always amazed and deeply saddened by ANY PERSON of color who claims to be a Republican.</p> I am always amazed and deeply saddened by ANY PERSON of color who claims to be a Republican.

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By: delurker http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/05/28/ricky_gill_the/comment-page-1/#comment-284413 delurker Sun, 29 May 2011 21:05:30 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6562#comment-284413 <p>The allergy to taking to taking a stand might have something to do with the fact that the congressional district represents probably the only true "swing" CD in California, one that is fairly evenly divided among Dems and Reps. Most other CDs in CA are gerrymandered so that either a Dem or Rep wins overwhelming, so the person who represents those other CDs can take stronger hard right or left positions. That's a little harder to do in a district like this.</p> The allergy to taking to taking a stand might have something to do with the fact that the congressional district represents probably the only true “swing” CD in California, one that is fairly evenly divided among Dems and Reps. Most other CDs in CA are gerrymandered so that either a Dem or Rep wins overwhelming, so the person who represents those other CDs can take stronger hard right or left positions. That’s a little harder to do in a district like this.

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By: ithunk http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/05/28/ricky_gill_the/comment-page-1/#comment-284407 ithunk Sun, 29 May 2011 09:24:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6562#comment-284407 <p>@boston_mahesh</p> <p>"Because the Jatt Sikh farming community of Fresno and Central California work HARD, they are single-agenda voters who are AGAINST government handouts to people who don't work as hard as they do"</p> <p>lol. I doubt that is the reason. Sikhs are not opposed to social/community support (free langar anyone) I'm more interested in figuring out what makes them stand for govt, switch religions, assimilate with America so easily, etc. Culturally, they've always picked easier nicknames like Bunty, Nicky, Happy, etc, so thats not new.</p> <p>Also, given the issues that the Sikh community faces (turban-related racism), shouldn't they be more liberal-leaning themselves ? (not saying that Republicans are behind the turban related attacks, but it is hard to see a liberal be so ignorant )</p> @boston_mahesh

“Because the Jatt Sikh farming community of Fresno and Central California work HARD, they are single-agenda voters who are AGAINST government handouts to people who don’t work as hard as they do”

lol. I doubt that is the reason. Sikhs are not opposed to social/community support (free langar anyone) I’m more interested in figuring out what makes them stand for govt, switch religions, assimilate with America so easily, etc. Culturally, they’ve always picked easier nicknames like Bunty, Nicky, Happy, etc, so thats not new.

Also, given the issues that the Sikh community faces (turban-related racism), shouldn’t they be more liberal-leaning themselves ? (not saying that Republicans are behind the turban related attacks, but it is hard to see a liberal be so ignorant )

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By: Alina M http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/05/28/ricky_gill_the/comment-page-1/#comment-284405 Alina M Sun, 29 May 2011 05:50:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6562#comment-284405 <p><i>I am SICK, SICK of Punjabis defecting to the Republican side. This is the third one.</i></p> <p>I know right? So tired of these damned colored folks comin' to our country and thinking they can exercise their political freedom by choosing the party that best represents their own socioeconomic interests...when will they learn? <em>sigh</em></p> I am SICK, SICK of Punjabis defecting to the Republican side. This is the third one.

I know right? So tired of these damned colored folks comin’ to our country and thinking they can exercise their political freedom by choosing the party that best represents their own socioeconomic interests…when will they learn? sigh

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