Comments on: A statistical snapshot of North American brown folk http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/26/a_statistical_s/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: James http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/26/a_statistical_s/comment-page-1/#comment-283541 James Sun, 01 May 2011 08:06:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6514#comment-283541 <p>Someone had asked how Sri Lankans in Canada were performing. I'm not sure of the history of Sri Lankans in America, but in Canada they are almost entirely Tamil refugees from Sri Lanka. Speaking from my personal impression as a person who grew up in the area where Tamils are concentrated in Canada, I'd say they've overall integrated very well, are respected as a hard-working and enterprising group of people, but are largely working class. Those who came as refugees have had issues relating to learning English, getting credentials recognised, etc., but their children speak English with a Canadian accent (or, in the case of Montréal, French, with a Canadian accent) and usually go to university and good jobs.</p> Someone had asked how Sri Lankans in Canada were performing. I’m not sure of the history of Sri Lankans in America, but in Canada they are almost entirely Tamil refugees from Sri Lanka. Speaking from my personal impression as a person who grew up in the area where Tamils are concentrated in Canada, I’d say they’ve overall integrated very well, are respected as a hard-working and enterprising group of people, but are largely working class. Those who came as refugees have had issues relating to learning English, getting credentials recognised, etc., but their children speak English with a Canadian accent (or, in the case of Montréal, French, with a Canadian accent) and usually go to university and good jobs.

]]> By: James http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/26/a_statistical_s/comment-page-1/#comment-283540 James Sun, 01 May 2011 08:01:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6514#comment-283540 <p>I'm Canadian, so I can answer the question as to the difference between a college diploma and a university degree.</p> <p>In Canada, only universities grant bachelors degrees/masters degrees/doctorates. 'Colleges' are institutions that exist from the '60s and focus primarily on hands-on education, often for the trades/vocational work, and are often frequented by those who have never been to a university, or are just looking for a quick upgrade. Rather than granting degrees, they issue a lesser document called a 'diploma', which is more than a high school diploma but less than a bachelors degree.</p> <p>Depending on the job, that could be what's required, though.</p> <p>You might be interested in knowing that <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2008/04/02/stats-immigration.html">South Asians, taken together as a group, form Canada's single, largest visible minority, and that 1 in 6 Canadians is a visible minority</a>.</p> I’m Canadian, so I can answer the question as to the difference between a college diploma and a university degree.

In Canada, only universities grant bachelors degrees/masters degrees/doctorates. ‘Colleges’ are institutions that exist from the ’60s and focus primarily on hands-on education, often for the trades/vocational work, and are often frequented by those who have never been to a university, or are just looking for a quick upgrade. Rather than granting degrees, they issue a lesser document called a ‘diploma’, which is more than a high school diploma but less than a bachelors degree.

Depending on the job, that could be what’s required, though.

You might be interested in knowing that South Asians, taken together as a group, form Canada’s single, largest visible minority, and that 1 in 6 Canadians is a visible minority.

]]> By: Razib Khan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/26/a_statistical_s/comment-page-1/#comment-283505 Razib Khan Fri, 29 Apr 2011 20:47:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6514#comment-283505 <p><i>-Bangladeshis have a lot lower median income (and per capita income) compared to Pakistanis. My guess would have been that their median incomes would be quite similar.</i></p> <p>i think the community is newer, and a lot of them started off blue collar or "diversity lottery."</p> <p>a lot of the issues with disjunction between education and income has to do with length of residency. takes a little time to develop networks to leverage skills.</p> <p><i>ISKON also draws a lot of people too.</i></p> <p>right. buddhism in the USA tends to be white or asian, except for soka gakkai, which has a lot more blacks and hispanics. e.g., hank johnson of georgia</p> <p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Johnson</p> -Bangladeshis have a lot lower median income (and per capita income) compared to Pakistanis. My guess would have been that their median incomes would be quite similar.

i think the community is newer, and a lot of them started off blue collar or “diversity lottery.”

a lot of the issues with disjunction between education and income has to do with length of residency. takes a little time to develop networks to leverage skills.

ISKON also draws a lot of people too.

right. buddhism in the USA tends to be white or asian, except for soka gakkai, which has a lot more blacks and hispanics. e.g., hank johnson of georgia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Johnson

]]> By: Yoga Fire http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/26/a_statistical_s/comment-page-1/#comment-283503 Yoga Fire Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:47:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6514#comment-283503 <blockquote>-2% of the hindus are hispanic. That is surprising to me! Never came across any! </blockquote> <p>There are several strains of it. Satya Sai Baba devotees have a pretty strong international following and I've met several Hispanic people in Florida who are fans of his.</p> <p>ISKON also draws a lot of people too. Actually, I have one friend who is really into punk music and used to live in Chile. He tells me that the Straight Edge movement within punk identifies strongly with the Hare Krishnas. Apparently it's even more pronounced in Latin America. <a href="http://www.techgnosis.com/chunkshow-single.php?chunk=chunkfrom-2005-02-15-1437-0.txt">There is an article about it here.</a></p> -2% of the hindus are hispanic. That is surprising to me! Never came across any!

There are several strains of it. Satya Sai Baba devotees have a pretty strong international following and I’ve met several Hispanic people in Florida who are fans of his.

ISKON also draws a lot of people too. Actually, I have one friend who is really into punk music and used to live in Chile. He tells me that the Straight Edge movement within punk identifies strongly with the Hare Krishnas. Apparently it’s even more pronounced in Latin America. There is an article about it here.

]]> By: Slooper http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/26/a_statistical_s/comment-page-1/#comment-283502 Slooper Fri, 29 Apr 2011 16:48:46 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6514#comment-283502 <p>Great post Razib. I'm surprised to see some of the statistics. Can anyone shed some light on the following:</p> <p>-Bangladeshis have a lot lower median income (and per capita income) compared to Pakistanis. My guess would have been that their median incomes would be quite similar.</p> <p>-2% of the hindus are hispanic. That is surprising to me! Never came across any!</p> <p>-South Asians in NY make a lot less than those in NJ,CA or TX. Tough life!</p> Great post Razib. I’m surprised to see some of the statistics. Can anyone shed some light on the following:

-Bangladeshis have a lot lower median income (and per capita income) compared to Pakistanis. My guess would have been that their median incomes would be quite similar.

-2% of the hindus are hispanic. That is surprising to me! Never came across any!

-South Asians in NY make a lot less than those in NJ,CA or TX. Tough life!

]]> By: Yoga Fire http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/26/a_statistical_s/comment-page-1/#comment-283488 Yoga Fire Wed, 27 Apr 2011 23:39:22 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6514#comment-283488 <p>They anticipate having everything done around April 2012.</p> They anticipate having everything done around April 2012.

]]> By: Razib Khan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/26/a_statistical_s/comment-page-1/#comment-283487 Razib Khan Wed, 27 Apr 2011 23:12:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6514#comment-283487 <p><i>When will we have the data on the US South Asian Population from the 2010 census for analyzing?</i></p> <p>hopefully the first batches sometime in the second half of this year. but a lot of the stuff takes years to come out. hopefully IT makes this more efficient, but i'm not holding my breath....</p> When will we have the data on the US South Asian Population from the 2010 census for analyzing?

hopefully the first batches sometime in the second half of this year. but a lot of the stuff takes years to come out. hopefully IT makes this more efficient, but i’m not holding my breath….

]]> By: Malik http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/26/a_statistical_s/comment-page-1/#comment-283486 Malik Wed, 27 Apr 2011 23:08:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6514#comment-283486 <p>Razib, When will we have the data on the US South Asian Population from the 2010 census for analyzing?</p> Razib, When will we have the data on the US South Asian Population from the 2010 census for analyzing?

]]> By: Pravin Praveen http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/26/a_statistical_s/comment-page-1/#comment-283480 Pravin Praveen Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:37:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6514#comment-283480 <p>nnn, I talk to my mom in English. She talks to me in English and Telugu.</p> nnn, I talk to my mom in English. She talks to me in English and Telugu.

]]> By: Razib Khan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/26/a_statistical_s/comment-page-1/#comment-283477 Razib Khan Wed, 27 Apr 2011 19:57:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6514#comment-283477 <p>i would say english is your first language alina. i learned bengali first, but only use it to talk to my mom and lesser extent my dad.</p> i would say english is your first language alina. i learned bengali first, but only use it to talk to my mom and lesser extent my dad.

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