Comments on: ~1 in 5 Indian Families… http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/24/1_in_5_indian_f/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: fajita http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/24/1_in_5_indian_f/comment-page-/#comment-283458 fajita Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:46:34 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6509#comment-283458 <p>Your source is an email thread from an Evangelical Christian complaining about how higher ed discriminates against Christians.</p> <p>Your inability to use basic critical thinking skills to evaluate sources says a lot more about your lack of intelligence as a Hindu than it says about the lack of intelligence of a Muslim.</p> Your source is an email thread from an Evangelical Christian complaining about how higher ed discriminates against Christians.

Your inability to use basic critical thinking skills to evaluate sources says a lot more about your lack of intelligence as a Hindu than it says about the lack of intelligence of a Muslim.

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By: fajita http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/24/1_in_5_indian_f/comment-page-2/#comment-283456 fajita Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:43:51 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6509#comment-283456 <p>"Even so I've always wondered why we don't see the Indians who fit this profile also immigrating illegally to the West but only Paks/Bangladeshis. "</p> <p>That's not true. What evidence do you have that most Pakistanis and Bangaldeshis are illegal but Indians are not? Give source please.</p> <p>Most llegal Indians work in oil-rich Arab countries. Many who come to the US tend to be on the richer side, already middle class. Even then, there are major H1-B scams that have allowed in illegal Indians. Many Indians are out of status after going from student to never going back to India. The ones who are not as rich go to Arab countries and even Southeast Asia like Indonesia and Malaysia.</p> <p>50% of India, more than half a billon, live in poverty similar to subsaharan Africa.</p> “Even so I’ve always wondered why we don’t see the Indians who fit this profile also immigrating illegally to the West but only Paks/Bangladeshis. “

That’s not true. What evidence do you have that most Pakistanis and Bangaldeshis are illegal but Indians are not? Give source please.

Most llegal Indians work in oil-rich Arab countries. Many who come to the US tend to be on the richer side, already middle class. Even then, there are major H1-B scams that have allowed in illegal Indians. Many Indians are out of status after going from student to never going back to India. The ones who are not as rich go to Arab countries and even Southeast Asia like Indonesia and Malaysia.

50% of India, more than half a billon, live in poverty similar to subsaharan Africa.

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By: Zachary Latif http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/24/1_in_5_indian_f/comment-page-1/#comment-283454 Zachary Latif Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:32:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6509#comment-283454 <p>"A correction I would like to make is that many of the Pakistani/Bangladeshi taxi drivers are not filling an immigration quota but are illegal immigrants who have overstayed their visas and these are the only occupations they can secure. Even so I've always wondered why we don't see the Indians who fit this profile also immigrating illegally to the West but only Paks/Bangladeshis. What keeps them home in India?"</p> <p>I have always found that to be a strength that Pakistanis want to constantly migrate; its why we have a great Diaspora. If anything I think migration is a good thing, in search of better opportunities whereever possible.</p> “A correction I would like to make is that many of the Pakistani/Bangladeshi taxi drivers are not filling an immigration quota but are illegal immigrants who have overstayed their visas and these are the only occupations they can secure. Even so I’ve always wondered why we don’t see the Indians who fit this profile also immigrating illegally to the West but only Paks/Bangladeshis. What keeps them home in India?”

I have always found that to be a strength that Pakistanis want to constantly migrate; its why we have a great Diaspora. If anything I think migration is a good thing, in search of better opportunities whereever possible.

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By: fajita http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/24/1_in_5_indian_f/comment-page-2/#comment-283432 fajita Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:38:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6509#comment-283432 <p>If this is the representation of Indian Hindus "progress" in the US, which is basically the repetition of the worse form of mindless racism against Muslims that would warm a Tea Partier's heart, then Indian Hindus parents need to focus on teaching their kids some values rather than acquiring string of degrees to list after their kids' names. Having graduate degrees don't make you smarter, that's for sure.</p> <p>Disgusting thread of comments. One of the worst on sepiamutiny.</p> If this is the representation of Indian Hindus “progress” in the US, which is basically the repetition of the worse form of mindless racism against Muslims that would warm a Tea Partier’s heart, then Indian Hindus parents need to focus on teaching their kids some values rather than acquiring string of degrees to list after their kids’ names. Having graduate degrees don’t make you smarter, that’s for sure.

Disgusting thread of comments. One of the worst on sepiamutiny.

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By: SS http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/24/1_in_5_indian_f/comment-page-2/#comment-283431 SS Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:38:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6509#comment-283431 <p>"SS, I don't know what you are rambling about. I didn't deny they were Muslim countries richer than India. I did say that most Muslims do not live in what you described as the "Muslim heartland" where the most wealthy Muslim nations are."</p> <p>I just showed you that the majority of Muslims live in countries with higher per capita incomes than India. But you have neither the intellectual honesty nor the moral decency to admit you were wrong. Instead you are resorting to wishful delusions of how in the future things will look different.</p> <p>What makes you think India is on the right track? How can a hopelessly malnourished, functionally illiterate massive population that is growing by 20 million a year lead to developed status?</p> “SS, I don’t know what you are rambling about. I didn’t deny they were Muslim countries richer than India. I did say that most Muslims do not live in what you described as the “Muslim heartland” where the most wealthy Muslim nations are.”

I just showed you that the majority of Muslims live in countries with higher per capita incomes than India. But you have neither the intellectual honesty nor the moral decency to admit you were wrong. Instead you are resorting to wishful delusions of how in the future things will look different.

What makes you think India is on the right track? How can a hopelessly malnourished, functionally illiterate massive population that is growing by 20 million a year lead to developed status?

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By: fajita http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/24/1_in_5_indian_f/comment-page-2/#comment-283428 fajita Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:32:10 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6509#comment-283428 <p>Same as the earlier commenter, a heartfelt shoutout to SS. I didn't have the stomach to wade into this disgusting cesspool started by Appalled but I have been watching SS's valiant efforts in admiration from afar. Only in Vinod's thread could this have gone on this way for so long. This would have been stopped in Abhi's or Taz's threads a long time ago. thanks, SS.</p> Same as the earlier commenter, a heartfelt shoutout to SS. I didn’t have the stomach to wade into this disgusting cesspool started by Appalled but I have been watching SS’s valiant efforts in admiration from afar. Only in Vinod’s thread could this have gone on this way for so long. This would have been stopped in Abhi’s or Taz’s threads a long time ago. thanks, SS.

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By: Anonimous http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/24/1_in_5_indian_f/comment-page-2/#comment-283426 Anonimous Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:27:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6509#comment-283426 <p>SS,</p> <p>Thanks for the powerful replies and for defending Muslims. You were crushing many myths here and sending some of the usual dimwits running for cover. If you are a Muslim, are you sure your forefathers were not Pandits or Bhatts (lol, just kidding)?</p> SS,

Thanks for the powerful replies and for defending Muslims. You were crushing many myths here and sending some of the usual dimwits running for cover. If you are a Muslim, are you sure your forefathers were not Pandits or Bhatts (lol, just kidding)?

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By: Alina M http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/24/1_in_5_indian_f/comment-page-1/#comment-283423 Alina M Wed, 27 Apr 2011 07:40:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6509#comment-283423 <blockquote>*Gets popcorn* Begun, this flame war has.</blockquote> <p>The funniest part is that the same arguments that Hindu Desi's and Muslim Desi's launch against one another in a desperate bid to prove who is superior are the same arguments that you'll hear White supremacists all over the world use to "prove" why they think South Asians in general are "inferior"...</p> <p><em>Passes samosas and chutney</em></p> *Gets popcorn* Begun, this flame war has.

The funniest part is that the same arguments that Hindu Desi’s and Muslim Desi’s launch against one another in a desperate bid to prove who is superior are the same arguments that you’ll hear White supremacists all over the world use to “prove” why they think South Asians in general are “inferior”…

Passes samosas and chutney

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By: SS http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/24/1_in_5_indian_f/comment-page-1/#comment-283422 SS Wed, 27 Apr 2011 07:32:57 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6509#comment-283422 <p>"Muslims, including desi Muslims are essentially absent in stuff like Intel Science Talent, Math Counts, Math Olympiad, National Merit Semifinalists, Spelling bee."</p> <p>The usual ignorant BS. In international academic competitions muslims tend to outperform hindus. For example the International math Olympiad, which is usually dominated by China, was won by the Islamic Republic of Iran once. By hindu majority India, never. Here is the official list of cumulative gold medals in the Math Olympiad won by each participating nation:</p> <p>China: 113 Vietnam: 45 Iran: 31 Turkey: 11 Kazakhstan: 11 India; 8</p> <p>Maybe you should double check your own IQ? For it is certainly not the mark of intelligence to get all arrogant and boastful when the reality warrants humility and shame.</p> “Muslims, including desi Muslims are essentially absent in stuff like Intel Science Talent, Math Counts, Math Olympiad, National Merit Semifinalists, Spelling bee.”

The usual ignorant BS. In international academic competitions muslims tend to outperform hindus. For example the International math Olympiad, which is usually dominated by China, was won by the Islamic Republic of Iran once. By hindu majority India, never. Here is the official list of cumulative gold medals in the Math Olympiad won by each participating nation:

China: 113 Vietnam: 45 Iran: 31 Turkey: 11 Kazakhstan: 11 India; 8

Maybe you should double check your own IQ? For it is certainly not the mark of intelligence to get all arrogant and boastful when the reality warrants humility and shame.

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By: John http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/24/1_in_5_indian_f/comment-page-1/#comment-283421 John Wed, 27 Apr 2011 07:29:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6509#comment-283421 <p>SS, I don't know what you are rambling about. I didn't deny they were Muslim countries richer than India. I did say that most Muslims do not live in what you described as the "Muslim heartland" where the most wealthy Muslim nations are. Anyway, there is no point in having a conversation with you, but over time things will become more clear as India continues to grow, Muslims continue to kill themselves in civil wars, the world starts using things other than oil for energy, and the only educated and secular Muslims that emerge come from the Hindu/Indian system which you so despise. Good luck to you.</p> SS, I don’t know what you are rambling about. I didn’t deny they were Muslim countries richer than India. I did say that most Muslims do not live in what you described as the “Muslim heartland” where the most wealthy Muslim nations are. Anyway, there is no point in having a conversation with you, but over time things will become more clear as India continues to grow, Muslims continue to kill themselves in civil wars, the world starts using things other than oil for energy, and the only educated and secular Muslims that emerge come from the Hindu/Indian system which you so despise. Good luck to you.

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