Comments on: Years later, and still no justice for Mai http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/23/years_later_and/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ranjit http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/23/years_later_and/comment-page-1/#comment-283316 Ranjit Tue, 26 Apr 2011 05:49:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6504#comment-283316 <p>The judicial process of review of supreme court judgment.</p> <p>Typically if a judge of a supreme court passes a judgment, the Supreme Court (India) can review its judgment with a bench of higher number of judges. For example if a single judge passed a judgment, it can be reviewed by a three judge bench, which again can be reviewed by a five judge bench, which again can be reviewed by a thirteen judge bench which is the top level bench.</p> <p>In rare cases a 13 judge bench can be reviewed again by another 13 judge bench. The whole process was put in as a fail safe to avoid any injustice which might happen due to some information not seeing light which is a very high probability in south Asian nations.</p> <p>The possibility of review exists but it is granted rarely only if there seems to be a considerable question of law with changes which have happened. These judgments always tend to be landmark and relate to a major change in the country.</p> <p>Mai's case is definitely a potential one, if there is ENOUGH BACKLASH, it might make it.</p> <p>Pakistan seems to be similar on the judicial system.</p> The judicial process of review of supreme court judgment.

Typically if a judge of a supreme court passes a judgment, the Supreme Court (India) can review its judgment with a bench of higher number of judges. For example if a single judge passed a judgment, it can be reviewed by a three judge bench, which again can be reviewed by a five judge bench, which again can be reviewed by a thirteen judge bench which is the top level bench.

In rare cases a 13 judge bench can be reviewed again by another 13 judge bench. The whole process was put in as a fail safe to avoid any injustice which might happen due to some information not seeing light which is a very high probability in south Asian nations.

The possibility of review exists but it is granted rarely only if there seems to be a considerable question of law with changes which have happened. These judgments always tend to be landmark and relate to a major change in the country.

Mai’s case is definitely a potential one, if there is ENOUGH BACKLASH, it might make it.

Pakistan seems to be similar on the judicial system.

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By: Sanaz Raji http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/23/years_later_and/comment-page-1/#comment-283309 Sanaz Raji Tue, 26 Apr 2011 04:49:56 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6504#comment-283309 <p>Dear SM readers:</p> <p>Please take the time to sign our petition in support for Mukhtaran Mai to bring her abusers back to justice. You can access the petition here:</p> <p><a href="http://signon.org/sign/bring-justice-to-mukhtaran">http://signon.org/sign/bring-justice-to-mukhtaran</a></p> <p>You can also join our Facebook group to get regular updates about Mai's case and the petition:</p> <p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_144752645594761&ap=1">http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_144752645594761&ap=1</a></p> <p>With your help we can turn our collective frustration into constructive action!</p> <p>Many thanks: Sanaz</p> Dear SM readers:

Please take the time to sign our petition in support for Mukhtaran Mai to bring her abusers back to justice. You can access the petition here:

http://signon.org/sign/bring-justice-to-mukhtaran

You can also join our Facebook group to get regular updates about Mai’s case and the petition:

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_144752645594761&ap=1

With your help we can turn our collective frustration into constructive action!

Many thanks: Sanaz

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By: Alina M http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/23/years_later_and/comment-page-1/#comment-283204 Alina M Sun, 24 Apr 2011 22:58:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6504#comment-283204 <blockquote>i stopped paying attention to this story because i had a brooding sense of pessimism.</blockquote> <p>Same, I think we all had a sinking feeling about how this story was going to pan out :/</p> <blockquote>Ali Dayan Hasan of the US-based Human Rights Watch said the verdict sent a “very bad signal” across Pakistani society. “It suggests women can be abused and even raped with impunity and those perpetrating such crimes can walk,” he told the BBC.</blockquote> <p>Not only that, but often women are ones who face shame for the crime, rather than the criminal; women who are raped are often considered "dirty" in this culture. In Afghanistan, young women who are raped before marriage are usually considered unfit for marriage because they are no longer virgins. So not only is there no retribution, society places the burden of the sin on them.</p> <blockquote>The scariest part, to me, is the "stickiness" of these attitudes. Even if they get out of the country, they bring these attitudes and act on them in the UK. For too many, it seems there is no space between "coconut" and these horrible attitudes</blockquote> <p>True...not only for sexual assault, but also domestic violence.</p> i stopped paying attention to this story because i had a brooding sense of pessimism.

Same, I think we all had a sinking feeling about how this story was going to pan out :/

Ali Dayan Hasan of the US-based Human Rights Watch said the verdict sent a “very bad signal” across Pakistani society. “It suggests women can be abused and even raped with impunity and those perpetrating such crimes can walk,” he told the BBC.

Not only that, but often women are ones who face shame for the crime, rather than the criminal; women who are raped are often considered “dirty” in this culture. In Afghanistan, young women who are raped before marriage are usually considered unfit for marriage because they are no longer virgins. So not only is there no retribution, society places the burden of the sin on them.

The scariest part, to me, is the “stickiness” of these attitudes. Even if they get out of the country, they bring these attitudes and act on them in the UK. For too many, it seems there is no space between “coconut” and these horrible attitudes

True…not only for sexual assault, but also domestic violence.

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By: DesiInScotland http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/23/years_later_and/comment-page-1/#comment-283200 DesiInScotland Sun, 24 Apr 2011 21:49:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6504#comment-283200 <p>The scariest part, to me, is the "stickiness" of these attitudes. Even if they get out of the country, they bring these attitudes and act on them in the UK. For too many, it seems there is no space between "coconut" and these horrible attitudes. There is some sort of "block" preventing the purge of ignorant ideas.</p> The scariest part, to me, is the “stickiness” of these attitudes. Even if they get out of the country, they bring these attitudes and act on them in the UK. For too many, it seems there is no space between “coconut” and these horrible attitudes. There is some sort of “block” preventing the purge of ignorant ideas.

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By: Razib Khan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/23/years_later_and/comment-page-1/#comment-283198 Razib Khan Sun, 24 Apr 2011 20:58:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6504#comment-283198 <p>since no one commented yet, i will admit a sin: i stopped paying attention to this story because i had a brooding sense of pessimism. the courage of one can't redeem a whole society. the issue here isn't just the gross sexual injustice here, but the feudalism baked-into-the-cake of modern pakistani society.</p> since no one commented yet, i will admit a sin: i stopped paying attention to this story because i had a brooding sense of pessimism. the courage of one can’t redeem a whole society. the issue here isn’t just the gross sexual injustice here, but the feudalism baked-into-the-cake of modern pakistani society.

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