Comments on: The genetic origin of Indians http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/22/the_genetic_ori/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: The genetic origin of Indians – variation in a glance « The Bach http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/22/the_genetic_ori/comment-page-2/#comment-289109 The genetic origin of Indians – variation in a glance « The Bach Sun, 25 Mar 2012 13:45:31 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6503#comment-289109 <p>[...] he draws few semi-conclusions based on data. One of them is South Indian Brahmins claim northern Indo-Aryan origins. The genetics [...]</p> [...] he draws few semi-conclusions based on data. One of them is South Indian Brahmins claim northern Indo-Aryan origins. The genetics [...]

]]> By: Razib Khan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/22/the_genetic_ori/comment-page-2/#comment-283192 Razib Khan Sun, 24 Apr 2011 07:33:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6503#comment-283192 <p><i>Well, Razib never responded to the request for the source which finds such references in the Vedas so I tried googling myself and......came up with nothing.</i></p> <p>1) i don't read every comment. 2) i don't have infinite time. don't act like i'm doing you a disservice if i don't engage with<i> every</i> commenter/question.</p> <p>i'm moving on to other things now.</p> <p>thanks to commenters who made this interesting. to the rest, i'll know who to delete preemptively in the future.</p> Well, Razib never responded to the request for the source which finds such references in the Vedas so I tried googling myself and……came up with nothing.

1) i don’t read every comment. 2) i don’t have infinite time. don’t act like i’m doing you a disservice if i don’t engage with every commenter/question.

i’m moving on to other things now.

thanks to commenters who made this interesting. to the rest, i’ll know who to delete preemptively in the future.

]]> By: Surya http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/22/the_genetic_ori/comment-page-2/#comment-283191 Surya Sun, 24 Apr 2011 07:29:22 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6503#comment-283191 <p>"are there not references to the "son of the black woman," referring to those warriors and priests who had indigenous mothers?"</p> <p>Well, Razib never responded to the request for the source which finds such references in the Vedas so I tried googling myself and......came up with nothing.</p> “are there not references to the “son of the black woman,” referring to those warriors and priests who had indigenous mothers?”

Well, Razib never responded to the request for the source which finds such references in the Vedas so I tried googling myself and……came up with nothing.

]]> By: Razib Khan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/22/the_genetic_ori/comment-page-2/#comment-283190 Razib Khan Sun, 24 Apr 2011 07:04:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6503#comment-283190 <p>the last comment will be the last in that direction.</p> the last comment will be the last in that direction.

]]> By: Wedplan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/22/the_genetic_ori/comment-page-2/#comment-283189 Wedplan Sun, 24 Apr 2011 07:01:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6503#comment-283189 <p>Speculations based on genetic studies are prone to myth-making from all sides as well. The studies provide partial content, which then are filled with all kinds of content, by all kinds of people based on where in the ideological spectrum they come from, what kind of histories they were taught and so forth. As a materialist, gene-mapping is a good scientific endeavor but speculations based on that to tracing roots in pre-historic antiquity is ultimately a futile exercise. My 2 cents:)</p> Speculations based on genetic studies are prone to myth-making from all sides as well. The studies provide partial content, which then are filled with all kinds of content, by all kinds of people based on where in the ideological spectrum they come from, what kind of histories they were taught and so forth. As a materialist, gene-mapping is a good scientific endeavor but speculations based on that to tracing roots in pre-historic antiquity is ultimately a futile exercise. My 2 cents:)

]]> By: Razib Khan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/22/the_genetic_ori/comment-page-2/#comment-283187 Razib Khan Sun, 24 Apr 2011 05:55:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6503#comment-283187 <p>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/04/resolutions-in-the-indian-genetic-layer-cake/</p> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/04/resolutions-in-the-indian-genetic-layer-cake/

]]> By: Razib Khan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/22/the_genetic_ori/comment-page-2/#comment-283186 Razib Khan Sun, 24 Apr 2011 05:53:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6503#comment-283186 <p>AIT was dumb, but the indians who respond with nationalistic models are just as dumb. that's just an assertion. not an opening for content-free conversation which i'll have to delete....</p> AIT was dumb, but the indians who respond with nationalistic models are just as dumb. that’s just an assertion. not an opening for content-free conversation which i’ll have to delete….

]]> By: Ponniyin Selvan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/22/the_genetic_ori/comment-page-1/#comment-283185 Ponniyin Selvan Sun, 24 Apr 2011 05:35:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6503#comment-283185 <p>pura nanooru 112</p> <p>http://learnsangamtamil.wordpress.com/purananuru/</p> <p>English translation looks quite ordinary --</p> <p>Last month under that white moon We had our father and nobody had taken our hill; this month under that white moon, the kings who attacked and won are beating their victory drums, they took our hill, we don’t have our father. Translated by Vaidehi</p> <hr /> <p>But noway this translates into assertions made by the commenter about killing of youth, taking sex slaves etc.. Pura nanooru 23 is similar..</p> pura nanooru 112

http://learnsangamtamil.wordpress.com/purananuru/

English translation looks quite ordinary –

Last month under that white moon We had our father and nobody had taken our hill; this month under that white moon, the kings who attacked and won are beating their victory drums, they took our hill, we don’t have our father. Translated by Vaidehi

But noway this translates into assertions made by the commenter about killing of youth, taking sex slaves etc.. Pura nanooru 23 is similar..

]]> By: Ponniyin Selvan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/22/the_genetic_ori/comment-page-1/#comment-283184 Ponniyin Selvan Sun, 24 Apr 2011 05:26:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6503#comment-283184 <p><strong><em>As it happens, I have final papers to write, and I have better things to do than explain Tamil literary history to a guy whose online handle is the title of an insufferably long (2400 pages?!) book</em></strong></p> <p>he..he.. Bcos your references were wrong, I just asked you to substantiate your claims. BTW, the wiki link says nothing about what you claimed either. Best of luck for your final papers..Hope you don't write them like your comments here.. :-)</p> As it happens, I have final papers to write, and I have better things to do than explain Tamil literary history to a guy whose online handle is the title of an insufferably long (2400 pages?!) book

he..he.. Bcos your references were wrong, I just asked you to substantiate your claims. BTW, the wiki link says nothing about what you claimed either. Best of luck for your final papers..Hope you don’t write them like your comments here.. :-)

]]> By: Wedplan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/22/the_genetic_ori/comment-page-2/#comment-283183 Wedplan Sun, 24 Apr 2011 05:22:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6503#comment-283183 <p>I had posted this link on the News tab sometime back. Another data point in the cultural issues involved with the AIT theory.</p> <p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rajiv-malhotra/how-europeans-misappropri_b_837376.html">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rajiv-malhotra/how-europeans-misappropri_b_837376.html</a></p> I had posted this link on the News tab sometime back. Another data point in the cultural issues involved with the AIT theory.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rajiv-malhotra/how-europeans-misappropri_b_837376.html

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