Comments on: The Politics of Courting a Community http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/20/woo_and_the_eth/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: James http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/20/woo_and_the_eth/comment-page-1/#comment-283542 James Sun, 01 May 2011 08:25:22 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6498#comment-283542 <p>It's important to note that in Canada, South Asians, grouped together, are the largest visible minority in the country.</p> <p>Whilst that request for the 'ethnic costumes' was indeed unfortunate, it's no different than the sort of request routinely made to the white Ukrainian community in Western Canada (where the world's largest number of classical Ukrainian dancers is produced, as an aside).</p> <p>Also, it should be noted that the group who produced that video to the tune of 'beat it' tends to be filled with left-of-centre/liberal activists, who are largely mirroring the campaign rhetoric of the Liberal party leader, Michael Ignatieff, that 'a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian', even as his party seems to be reaching a historic low in support amongst ethnic communities in Canada.</p> <p>Some of you may be interested in watching the episode of TVOntario's (provincial public broadcaster) current affairs programme, the Agenda, called <a href="http://www.tvo.org/cfmx/tvoorg/theagenda/index.cfm?page_id=7&bpn=109143&ts=2011-04-19%2020:00:00.0">Chasing the Ethnic Vote</a>.</p> It’s important to note that in Canada, South Asians, grouped together, are the largest visible minority in the country.

Whilst that request for the ‘ethnic costumes’ was indeed unfortunate, it’s no different than the sort of request routinely made to the white Ukrainian community in Western Canada (where the world’s largest number of classical Ukrainian dancers is produced, as an aside).

Also, it should be noted that the group who produced that video to the tune of ‘beat it’ tends to be filled with left-of-centre/liberal activists, who are largely mirroring the campaign rhetoric of the Liberal party leader, Michael Ignatieff, that ‘a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian’, even as his party seems to be reaching a historic low in support amongst ethnic communities in Canada.

Some of you may be interested in watching the episode of TVOntario’s (provincial public broadcaster) current affairs programme, the Agenda, called Chasing the Ethnic Vote.

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By: Pavani http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/20/woo_and_the_eth/comment-page-1/#comment-283103 Pavani Sat, 23 Apr 2011 02:55:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6498#comment-283103 <p>I see how it may look like I briefly opened comments and then closed them on those posts due to the "(0, closed)" but actually I just never opened comments. It's an option for every blogger on every post, and I just wanted to see how it would feel to use it occasionally, if I'd blog more with the option, etc.</p> I see how it may look like I briefly opened comments and then closed them on those posts due to the “(0, closed)” but actually I just never opened comments. It’s an option for every blogger on every post, and I just wanted to see how it would feel to use it occasionally, if I’d blog more with the option, etc.

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By: fajita http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/20/woo_and_the_eth/comment-page-1/#comment-283093 fajita Fri, 22 Apr 2011 18:43:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6498#comment-283093 <p>Pavani, why do you make posts but close comments before anyone can comment? You have closed comments for your Easter post and your Rebecca Black post.</p> Pavani, why do you make posts but close comments before anyone can comment? You have closed comments for your Easter post and your Rebecca Black post.

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By: Razib Khan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/20/woo_and_the_eth/comment-page-1/#comment-283044 Razib Khan Thu, 21 Apr 2011 08:23:30 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6498#comment-283044 <p>keep enjoying the contempterade!</p> keep enjoying the contempterade!

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By: Razib Khan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/20/woo_and_the_eth/comment-page-1/#comment-283043 Razib Khan Thu, 21 Apr 2011 08:22:28 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6498#comment-283043 <p><i> Although by 2050 Whites will only make up about half the population anyway (or so I keep hearing people repeating) and Hispanics will be nearly 30%</i></p> <p>a minor, but not trivial, supplementation is that 50% of the american hispanic/latino community identifies white as their race. so it is <i>non-hispanic whites</i> (most of the rest identify as "other", and some as black). interestingly, this sociological pattern matches the genetics nearly perfectly:</p> <p>http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2156/12/28/figure/F1</p> Although by 2050 Whites will only make up about half the population anyway (or so I keep hearing people repeating) and Hispanics will be nearly 30%

a minor, but not trivial, supplementation is that 50% of the american hispanic/latino community identifies white as their race. so it is non-hispanic whites (most of the rest identify as “other”, and some as black). interestingly, this sociological pattern matches the genetics nearly perfectly:

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2156/12/28/figure/F1

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By: Alina M http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/20/woo_and_the_eth/comment-page-1/#comment-283042 Alina M Thu, 21 Apr 2011 07:56:56 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6498#comment-283042 <p>Got this from Wiki, for anyone who may be interested:</p> <p><i>According to the US census, the overall growth rate for Indians from 1990 to 2000 was 105.87 percent. The average growth rate for the whole of USA was only 7.6 percent.</p> <p>Indians comprise 16.4 percent of the Asian-American community. They are the third largest in the Asian American population. In 2000, of all the foreign born population in USA, Indians were 1.007 million. From 2000 onwards the growth rate and the per cent rate of Indians amongst all the immigrants has increased by over 100 percent. According to the US Census Bureau, between 1990 and 2000, the Indian population in the US grew 130% — 10 times the national average of 13%.</i></p> <p>So if growth rates like this continue, maybe we will see US politicians pandering to Desi folks in a decade or so, who knows? Although by 2050 Whites will only make up about half the population anyway (or so I keep hearing people repeating) and Hispanics will be nearly 30%</p> Got this from Wiki, for anyone who may be interested:

According to the US census, the overall growth rate for Indians from 1990 to 2000 was 105.87 percent. The average growth rate for the whole of USA was only 7.6 percent.

Indians comprise 16.4 percent of the Asian-American community. They are the third largest in the Asian American population. In 2000, of all the foreign born population in USA, Indians were 1.007 million. From 2000 onwards the growth rate and the per cent rate of Indians amongst all the immigrants has increased by over 100 percent. According to the US Census Bureau, between 1990 and 2000, the Indian population in the US grew 130% — 10 times the national average of 13%.

So if growth rates like this continue, maybe we will see US politicians pandering to Desi folks in a decade or so, who knows? Although by 2050 Whites will only make up about half the population anyway (or so I keep hearing people repeating) and Hispanics will be nearly 30%

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By: fajita http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/20/woo_and_the_eth/comment-page-1/#comment-283041 fajita Thu, 21 Apr 2011 07:46:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6498#comment-283041 <p>thanks for the correction. I just checked the census 2010 and you're right! that's quite a jump from 2000. I wonder which Asian made that number leap. I'm guessing South Asian.</p> thanks for the correction. I just checked the census 2010 and you’re right! that’s quite a jump from 2000. I wonder which Asian made that number leap. I’m guessing South Asian.

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By: Malik http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/20/woo_and_the_eth/comment-page-1/#comment-283040 Malik Thu, 21 Apr 2011 07:38:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6498#comment-283040 <p>Just a small correction there but Asian Americans(South, Southeast and Northeast) are nearly 5% of the US population now.</p> Just a small correction there but Asian Americans(South, Southeast and Northeast) are nearly 5% of the US population now.

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By: fajita http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/20/woo_and_the_eth/comment-page-1/#comment-283039 fajita Thu, 21 Apr 2011 07:35:28 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6498#comment-283039 <p>"seems that major candidates tend to be too busy trying wash off representing too much of their ethnic identities and convincing americans they hope to shape a "color blind" society."</p> <p>Gotta disagree. Yes, the mainstream message is "I am White, or at least White-Washed, like you all and I am Christian, and definitely not a secret Muslim" but on the ground, the kind of pandering that Layla is talking about happens all the time in America, including carefully constructed literature to make it appear as though there are many non-White supporters of GOP. Fact remains, Blacks and Hispanics overwhelmingly vote for democrats. Cubans vote Republican.</p> “seems that major candidates tend to be too busy trying wash off representing too much of their ethnic identities and convincing americans they hope to shape a “color blind” society.”

Gotta disagree. Yes, the mainstream message is “I am White, or at least White-Washed, like you all and I am Christian, and definitely not a secret Muslim” but on the ground, the kind of pandering that Layla is talking about happens all the time in America, including carefully constructed literature to make it appear as though there are many non-White supporters of GOP. Fact remains, Blacks and Hispanics overwhelmingly vote for democrats. Cubans vote Republican.

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By: fajita http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/20/woo_and_the_eth/comment-page-1/#comment-283038 fajita Thu, 21 Apr 2011 07:28:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6498#comment-283038 <p>This kind of pandering for an ethnic vote definitely happens in US elections, but in the US there are two main ethnics with voting power: Hispanics and Blacks. And they are pandered to. Hispanics are especially pandered to, especially in Southern and Western states. Politicians will go on Hispanic channels and speak in broken Spanish about how much they love the latinos. This was especially the case during the 2004 Bush re-election bid when his bro with his spanish wife did the rounds to get the Hispanic vote.</p> <p>Cubans in Florida are pandered to as well with musicians and famous Cuban artists.</p> <p>In the US Asians make up a mere 3% of the population, and most are East Asians. If and when Asians become a major political force, I am sure we'll get our share of pandering to.</p> <p>I love Canada, especially Toronto and Vancouver. Very friendly people, especially the desi immigrants. I get a nice vibe there every time I visit.</p> This kind of pandering for an ethnic vote definitely happens in US elections, but in the US there are two main ethnics with voting power: Hispanics and Blacks. And they are pandered to. Hispanics are especially pandered to, especially in Southern and Western states. Politicians will go on Hispanic channels and speak in broken Spanish about how much they love the latinos. This was especially the case during the 2004 Bush re-election bid when his bro with his spanish wife did the rounds to get the Hispanic vote.

Cubans in Florida are pandered to as well with musicians and famous Cuban artists.

In the US Asians make up a mere 3% of the population, and most are East Asians. If and when Asians become a major political force, I am sure we’ll get our share of pandering to.

I love Canada, especially Toronto and Vancouver. Very friendly people, especially the desi immigrants. I get a nice vibe there every time I visit.

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