Comments on: A nuanced brown place in the world http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/05/a_nuanced_brown/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Razib Khan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/05/a_nuanced_brown/comment-page-2/#comment-282728 Razib Khan Sun, 10 Apr 2011 20:19:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6474#comment-282728 <p>the last comment was disingenuous trollery. i think it is time to close this thread while i'm ahead.</p> the last comment was disingenuous trollery. i think it is time to close this thread while i’m ahead.

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By: TTCUSM http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/05/a_nuanced_brown/comment-page-2/#comment-282727 TTCUSM Sun, 10 Apr 2011 18:03:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6474#comment-282727 <p>boston_mahesh wrote:</p> <blockquote>Sathya, I couldn't agree with you more. The Hindus have much less sense of charitable-givings when compared to the other religions seen in the Subcontinent.</blockquote> <p>Hey boston_mahesh, what's your opinion of the 1971 Bangladesh atrocities (mostly aimed at Hindus)? Do you consider them to be an example of Islamic "generosity"?</p> boston_mahesh wrote:

Sathya, I couldn’t agree with you more. The Hindus have much less sense of charitable-givings when compared to the other religions seen in the Subcontinent.

Hey boston_mahesh, what’s your opinion of the 1971 Bangladesh atrocities (mostly aimed at Hindus)? Do you consider them to be an example of Islamic “generosity”?

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By: boston_mahesh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/05/a_nuanced_brown/comment-page-2/#comment-282726 boston_mahesh Sun, 10 Apr 2011 17:21:42 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6474#comment-282726 <p>Sathya, I couldn't agree with you more. The Hindus have much less sense of charitable-givings when compared to the other religions seen in the Subcontinent. Even though India is about 30% better off than Pakistan when measured in PPP/capita, the <b>multi-factorial poverty index of India is much higher than that of Pakistan</b>. India has much more people living on $1.25 or less a day as well as a higher index.</p> <p>http://www.economist.com/node/16693283</p> Sathya, I couldn’t agree with you more. The Hindus have much less sense of charitable-givings when compared to the other religions seen in the Subcontinent. Even though India is about 30% better off than Pakistan when measured in PPP/capita, the multi-factorial poverty index of India is much higher than that of Pakistan. India has much more people living on $1.25 or less a day as well as a higher index.

http://www.economist.com/node/16693283

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By: Razib Khan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/05/a_nuanced_brown/comment-page-2/#comment-282723 Razib Khan Sun, 10 Apr 2011 09:13:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6474#comment-282723 <p>reema, re: pakistan, i think there's an intersection of conditional factors, <b>and</b>, a positive feedback loop.</p> reema, re: pakistan, i think there’s an intersection of conditional factors, and, a positive feedback loop.

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By: Reema http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/05/a_nuanced_brown/comment-page-2/#comment-282722 Reema Sun, 10 Apr 2011 09:03:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6474#comment-282722 <p>shut it down. thanks for the thought-provoking post and ensuing discussion. lmao @ <a href="http://www.brownpundits.com/2011/04/10/dawkins-in-brown-face/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter">"don’t assume i’m a retard. otherwise i’ll ban you"</a> hahahaha.</p> shut it down. thanks for the thought-provoking post and ensuing discussion. lmao @ “don’t assume i’m a retard. otherwise i’ll ban you” hahahaha.

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By: Reema http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/05/a_nuanced_brown/comment-page-2/#comment-282721 Reema Sun, 10 Apr 2011 08:23:07 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6474#comment-282721 <p>Razib, wow those are some very interesting points! I didn't know much of that, especially about Bangladesh. Okay so I understand that Bangladeshi culture is deeply influenced by Indians and Hindus, so that's why less extremism. Still, regarding Pakistan; okay, there is much <i>internal</i> turmoil in Pakistani because of sunni/shia conflict...there exist way more differences and far more conflict between hundreds of religious, cultural, political and regional parties in India. Of course the nation state model leads to greater unity and less conflict but why should the absence of this lend itself to exporting of <i>international</i> terrorists of Pakistani origin? Internal instability doesn't have to result in international acts of terrorism, does it? :S</p> <p>In Canada,the 2006 terrorism plot intercepted group of Toronto 18, 26/11 India, just last year in Times Square...all of these were men of Pakistani nationality. Even in my personal interactions I've shuddered at some of the things said. One of my Pakistani classmates said to my face "He's a good prof, even though he is Jewish and I should hate him", moreover there were two Pakistani students arrested at my school for running anti-semitic websites advocating for mass murders of Jews. That's another issue on its own, I have no idea why the extreme animosity towards Jews; I mean there must be a reason beyond the Palestine-Israel conflict.</p> <p>Anyway, my guess would be that illiteracy, instability and lack of education might foster extremism in Pakistanis living in Pakistan; but I have no idea why these specifically Pakistani immigrants, raised in North America for most of their lives are turning to terrorism. I don't know if you have an answer or not, but this was just something I was wondering about.</p> Razib, wow those are some very interesting points! I didn’t know much of that, especially about Bangladesh. Okay so I understand that Bangladeshi culture is deeply influenced by Indians and Hindus, so that’s why less extremism. Still, regarding Pakistan; okay, there is much internal turmoil in Pakistani because of sunni/shia conflict…there exist way more differences and far more conflict between hundreds of religious, cultural, political and regional parties in India. Of course the nation state model leads to greater unity and less conflict but why should the absence of this lend itself to exporting of international terrorists of Pakistani origin? Internal instability doesn’t have to result in international acts of terrorism, does it? :S

In Canada,the 2006 terrorism plot intercepted group of Toronto 18, 26/11 India, just last year in Times Square…all of these were men of Pakistani nationality. Even in my personal interactions I’ve shuddered at some of the things said. One of my Pakistani classmates said to my face “He’s a good prof, even though he is Jewish and I should hate him”, moreover there were two Pakistani students arrested at my school for running anti-semitic websites advocating for mass murders of Jews. That’s another issue on its own, I have no idea why the extreme animosity towards Jews; I mean there must be a reason beyond the Palestine-Israel conflict.

Anyway, my guess would be that illiteracy, instability and lack of education might foster extremism in Pakistanis living in Pakistan; but I have no idea why these specifically Pakistani immigrants, raised in North America for most of their lives are turning to terrorism. I don’t know if you have an answer or not, but this was just something I was wondering about.

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By: Razib Khan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/05/a_nuanced_brown/comment-page-2/#comment-282720 Razib Khan Sun, 10 Apr 2011 07:59:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6474#comment-282720 <p>i won't have time to monitor the comments here after tomorrow. should i just thread close? wut say u?</p> i won’t have time to monitor the comments here after tomorrow. should i just thread close? wut say u?

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By: Reema http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/05/a_nuanced_brown/comment-page-2/#comment-282719 Reema Sun, 10 Apr 2011 07:47:30 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6474#comment-282719 <p>Stop feeding the trolls :)</p> Stop feeding the trolls :)

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By: Rahul Rvd http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/05/a_nuanced_brown/comment-page-1/#comment-282718 Rahul Rvd Sun, 10 Apr 2011 07:25:32 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6474#comment-282718 <p>AtomicFunk ... I will take you on your word about the social injustice donuts. I would however posit that your example would be an outlier to the usual phenomenon of who-treats-whom how. Anywhooo</p> AtomicFunk … I will take you on your word about the social injustice donuts. I would however posit that your example would be an outlier to the usual phenomenon of who-treats-whom how. Anywhooo

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By: Rahul Rvd http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/05/a_nuanced_brown/comment-page-2/#comment-282717 Rahul Rvd Sun, 10 Apr 2011 07:20:42 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6474#comment-282717 <p>"Have you ever seen a temple pundit who didn't have a fat belly? " Plenty and other there are literally millions of poor secular Brahmins...get your definitions from something more than a dictionary.</p> <p>Time for a handle change "Sathya"</p> “Have you ever seen a temple pundit who didn’t have a fat belly? ” Plenty and other there are literally millions of poor secular Brahmins…get your definitions from something more than a dictionary.

Time for a handle change “Sathya”

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