“I think Jimmy’s response was good and Alexandra Wallace’s comment was very racist and offensive. I was surprised that UCLA did not punish Wallace but I guess hate speech is acceptable in America.”

Have you been here — how long? Whites high and low have lost jobs and careers for saying things perceived as racist (or sexist in the case of men), whether intended that way or not. Race-observations by whoever are always surprising in a workplace. I know people who work in a software company, with, surprisingly, many Indians. One day in the parking lot, a genial gentleman recently arrived from the sub-continent, noticed the black lady’s large SUV. He, making small talk, commented that her husband must “like big cars since black men like big behinds.” The lady was speechless and was still glazed when she relayed the comment to her white co-worker, who couldn’t imagine anyone not black saying this. But hey–the guy didn’t know any better and was just being friendly. He’d heard comedians yukking it up on just such subjects. Now she COULD have sued–would any of you guys have encouraged her?

Then that Virginia senator who made that “macaque” remark to a desi reporter? Gone with the wind, despite being a half-Jewish North African, as I recollect. But anyway, everyone knows this and it is why people are always freakin’ astonished when a white person over the age of about 3, says anything critical about another race or ethnicity. This has its pluses. Sociology textbooks notwithstanding, we are no longer living in the pre-1963 deep south, and most of us never did. Politic civility is underrated device for social cohesion.

Blacks even lose their jobs for such reasons, like the reporter in NPR who expressed fears about being on an airplane with persons in Muslim garb. NPR fired him. But that was Muslims being offended. Sarah Silverman mocks far eastern Asians and admits it’s because she doesn’t fear them. She has black jokes but admitted not telling them when there were blacks in the audience because she was afraid of them. She’s Jewish and tells Christian jokes, because she’s not afraid of them. The media just doesn’t respect Christians that much–I realize that and I’m not even a Christian.

Then there was Prof. Kamau Kambon of North Carolina, black, who is convinced whites should be exterminated because he insists they (all of them) are plotting to kill blacks (all of them.) Pre-emptory strike, I guess. Although some whites, who heard of his suggestions, were aghast, I don’t remember any widespread media coverage of all that. http://www.c-span.org/
Now just change the races involved in Kambon’s diatribe to, well, almost any others…

Then there’s UCLA’s own Prof. Kent Wong (no relation to the talented guitarist featured above) on a youtube video of his own, from Dec 2010, where he delivers advice to a crowd of aspiring lawyers not of the white persuasion, and suggests they “take over congress from the old, white men.” A coup d’etat perhaps? He leaves out the “get elected” aspect so I don’t know how much he’s thought out the game plan, but really … Take over? Old white guys? Does he get it, about a taxpayer base, multiculturalism, ageism? OTOH, maybe Prof. Wong is working for ALIPAC as a double agent provacteur.

Anyway. He’s, got a job at UCLA and doing better than A&W rootbeer, who will probably institute a name change before she does her first resume.

Again your comparison was something in an entirely different context, learn to read before responding.

You mean intelligent and well-informed? It doesn’t seem like it.

In fact, all it seems is you just like to run your mouth without looking at what actually is being said to you .

“This is a 18-21 year old, who for all we know has Asian friends, black friends, Indian friends…what you may have. Maybe they enabled this behavior, maybe one group in them has made Asian jokes regular enough for others to think it is okay.”

I saw the video, it didn’t appear that she was making her comments from “on the side” of those people.

“There are always bigger battles to fight.”

When would you fight them ? If your response to everything is “why are you making such a big deal about X”

“Don’t ever make the assumption that your thoughts are the only ones that can be correct.”

When its my thoughts against yours, that seems to be the case. Try making sense next time.

“I am surprised that UCLA couldn’t expell the young woman but she withdrew from the university anyway” Read: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/18/opinion/18fri2.html?_r=2&ref=opinion

“The critical point is that the Constitution places the right of silence beyond the reach of government.” Orville Douglas, Former Supreme Court Justice (1898–1980)

Let’s play your pop culture game … because yeah, the Alexandra Wallaces of today are the Sagas ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saga_(singer) )of tomorrow .

Alexandra Wallace wasn’t a comedian on a stage, doing an act. Oh I forgot the yardstick that some people have about how offensive speech becomes inoffensive if someone is doing it under the disguise of satire. While I may disagree with that viewpoint and take the Kantian stand on that, you might probably be completely corrent and infact you are supported in that view by a great many who view it the exact same way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CAJdzpJXig#t=3m37s

She was venting her true feelings at the time I have vented my true feelings about how North Indians in North/Central India make fun of “Madrasis” quite a few times …especially because it happened, to my face. Or how my father vented his feelings about being told to get off a bus in Madras in the 80s because he is a Telugu. Yes, it is completely inappropriate for people to function based on stereotypes or mock them reactionarily, that always implies that the person who says those isolated things is a raging card carrying member of the latest SPLC “get to know a hate group better” club. By your logic, I should be on a watch list for the “looky here Herschel, we got ourselves one of them self-hatin Indians” crowd.

Have you ever seen how people from the North Eastern part of India get treated in other parts?

Or this – http://www.metacafe.com/watch/740741/chinese_accent_by_an_handsome_indian_kannada_guy/

it’s like when Kramer stepped outside the “frame” of comedian on stage when he went on his “n*gger rant” It wasn’t comedy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji_6L-brMQg#t=2m04s

Comparisons to Russell Peters or other people doing jokes is absolutely ludicrous. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__9KOVFLsFA#t=1m18s

She’s not racist? Really? What does one have to do in order to be racist? Shoot Medgar Evers in the back? Yes? Ta-Nehisi Coates made a wonderful point about people like you who continue “In some measure, the narrowing of racism is an unfortunate relic of the civil rights movement, when activists got mileage out of dehumanizing racists and portraying them as ultra-violent Southern troglodytes. Whites may have been horrified by the fire hoses and police dogs turned on children, but they could rest easy knowing that neither they nor anyone they’d ever met would do such a thing. But most racism—indeed, the worst racism—is quaint and banal. There’s nothing sensationalistic about redlining or job discrimination. No archival newsreel can capture what it means to be viewed as a person who, minus the beneficence of well-meaning whites, simply can’t compete.

All of this leaves me wondering, Who does a guy have to lynch around here to get called a racist? If twice claiming that a presidential candidate is only in the race because he’s black doesn’t make you racist; if shouting, “He’s a nigger! He’s a nigger” from stage doesn’t make you racist; if calling an accomplished black woman “the cleaning lady” doesn’t make you a racist, what does?” Except he made it in a valid context, where he was deriding the people excusing Geraldine Ferraro for her comments on Obama … and you, are making them about some random chick on youtube.

“Ah, the ol “skin color” argument.” Ah, the ol “skin color doesn’t matter if they are white” counter. Every community needs the people who emulate others like the ones who call Clarence Thomas and Thomas Sowell as Uncle Toms

I like how it’s trivialized to “skin color” when the connections need to be diminished, but when the connections need to be enhanced, it’s likened to “I can make fun of my mother but you can’t” I don’t know what you mean. Here is some more trivial pop-culture reading. http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/newsom.asp . It maybe irrelevant to this exact quote, but your observation is irrelevant as well…so might as well indulge.

The irony is you type that post on a message board where the password to enter posts is ‘brown’ Yes I have personal identity issues everytime a Capcha brings up the name of a Whitey; once when a capcha asked me to type “Socrates” , I wrote to the admin complaining about how it was offensive to me. Not just because Socrates was “white”, but also because he taught Plato who taught Aristotle who taught Alexander who waged a war against my ancestors. BTW I don’t have to enter a verification phrase, my account is validated.

A white blonde girl making a video like that IS different (with no other information), if she was married to an Asian person, or had an Asian-step brother, or showed some other connection or respect for the Asian culture, “Ah the old, I have black friends” argument.

” but it’s because skin color has historically MEANT something about your existence in the US. Don’t believe me?” Oh I do believe you, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Bhagat_Singh_Thind

“And thats what racists do, take the path of least resistence, for example remember this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzPBk1p37Zw” Rahul Rvd | March 29, 2011 3:32 PM : The OP has equated actual acts of racism with what Rosie O’Donnell…I mean …Miley Cyrus…I mean … Lee Da Hae … I mean Pau Gasol…I mean … Alexandra Wallace said.

The reason I took my time to respond to you, mostly satirically, is because I’m partly astonished at how much virulence you had towards the simple facts that I tried to point out, namely: 1. There are always bigger battles to fight. 2. There is a complete, mainstream, pop-culture that makes it okay to make fun of stereotypes. But you can only repeat these tropes as long as you are given license to do by a random moral authority. In this case, you are that self-appointed moral authority. 3. This is a 18-21 year old, who for all we know has Asian friends, black friends, Indian friends…what you may have. Maybe they enabled this behavior, maybe one group in them has made Asian jokes regular enough for others to think it is okay. 4. http://thefire.org/article/12966.html 5. I don’t know if you or most other “browns” who have commented on this topic – here or elsewhere, are Indian, South Asian, ABD, DBD, FOB whatever…unlike you I am not able of looking through my screen and write a term paper filled with Valid observations about an internet handle or face. The serene capability you have displayed is truly inspiring; however, have you ever been part of a group that has had Indians who mock other Indians for their version of the “Ching chong ling long” ? Or this, I’m assuming the Asian girl in this video making fun of Indians is okay because you were friends with someone who looked like her, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V93r0Evy1IM

Whatever, floats your boat brah. I meet people like you all the time, who only find something racist if the intended target is closer in melanin content or minority cred, than the soruce. … I didn’t ask you to feel sympathy for anyone. Youtube hate can be good, ask Tay Zonday or Rebecca Black (who has made a cool million at this point) for that matter And in the interest of supplementing your burgeoning pop-culture aptitude…I will provide the following comedy routines for you to chuckle after your morals allow you to. 1. Brendon Burns vs Brown Girl – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq8nG_ZMhA8 (watch this after – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN3W9PE55dw ) 2. Ninja Say What – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ns-kXeQCMk 3. Don’t ever make the assumption that your thoughts are the only ones that can be correct.

I don’t. Of all the rampant racism that’s been allowed to proliferate pre-youtube, so one girl gets taken down a notch because she’s dumb enough to document and record her racist views, and sure death threats are extreme, but I’m losing any sleep feeling any sympathy about her? heck no.

And RP would never use trite depictions like “ching chong wing wong”.. another reason why it’s reminiscent of inherent racism, is that it’s just a lazy, often pulled out depiction of Asians. And thats what racists do, take the path of least resistence, for example remember this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzPBk1p37Zw