Comments on: Original copy http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/10/22/original_copy/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Paul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/10/22/original_copy/comment-page-1/#comment-279421 Paul Tue, 26 Oct 2010 18:26:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6352#comment-279421 <blockquote> I never lked Aishwarya Rai as an actress, but didn't realize she could shake her ass so well in those song sequences. She always seemed too restrained in movies I have seen her in.</blockquote> <p>Really? I'll definitely have to see that. She always struck me as the RealDoll of India- all looks and nothing else, including talent of any sort.</p> I never lked Aishwarya Rai as an actress, but didn’t realize she could shake her ass so well in those song sequences. She always seemed too restrained in movies I have seen her in.

Really? I’ll definitely have to see that. She always struck me as the RealDoll of India- all looks and nothing else, including talent of any sort.

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By: kidpoker666 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/10/22/original_copy/comment-page-1/#comment-279417 kidpoker666 Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:42:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6352#comment-279417 <pre><code> The only advice I'd take from Tina Brown is how to run a magazine into the ground. </code></pre> The only advice I'd take from Tina Brown is how to run a magazine into the ground. ]]> By: Pravin Praveen http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/10/22/original_copy/comment-page-1/#comment-279416 Pravin Praveen Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:31:01 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6352#comment-279416 <p>I dont normally watch INdian movies, but like any other self respecting person of South Indian origin, I refused to miss this Rajnikanth movie. I saw the Telugu version though I would have been fine with the Tamil version too. How did Robot get to be pronounced as ROBO? Here is where the indian press blows. They kept hyping the effects as if these were Hollywood quality. Maybe early 90s era Hollywood quality at best. I actually didn't hate the movie. Some of the FX ideas were pretty good, but the polish was lacking in the finishing of a lot of FX. I know a high budget indian movie is comparable to a modest budget movie over here. Still, even something as simple as the title sequence looked like primitive computer graphics. The work in the final half hour was pretty decent, but the visual look was not even as polished as I Robot which came out more than 5 years ago. It looks like the western companies slack off when the client is Indian. Anyway, if you read the Indian press, you would get the wrong impression of the type of FX work.</p> <p>The main asset of the movie was Rajnikanth even if he curtailed his famous mannerisms for the story. I actually thought his scientist character was a selfish jerk and had a hard time rooting for that character.I never lked Aishwarya Rai as an actress, but didn't realize she could shake her ass so well in those song sequences. She always seemed too restrained in movies I have seen her in.</p> I dont normally watch INdian movies, but like any other self respecting person of South Indian origin, I refused to miss this Rajnikanth movie. I saw the Telugu version though I would have been fine with the Tamil version too. How did Robot get to be pronounced as ROBO? Here is where the indian press blows. They kept hyping the effects as if these were Hollywood quality. Maybe early 90s era Hollywood quality at best. I actually didn’t hate the movie. Some of the FX ideas were pretty good, but the polish was lacking in the finishing of a lot of FX. I know a high budget indian movie is comparable to a modest budget movie over here. Still, even something as simple as the title sequence looked like primitive computer graphics. The work in the final half hour was pretty decent, but the visual look was not even as polished as I Robot which came out more than 5 years ago. It looks like the western companies slack off when the client is Indian. Anyway, if you read the Indian press, you would get the wrong impression of the type of FX work.

The main asset of the movie was Rajnikanth even if he curtailed his famous mannerisms for the story. I actually thought his scientist character was a selfish jerk and had a hard time rooting for that character.I never lked Aishwarya Rai as an actress, but didn’t realize she could shake her ass so well in those song sequences. She always seemed too restrained in movies I have seen her in.

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By: Pavani http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/10/22/original_copy/comment-page-1/#comment-279319 Pavani Sat, 23 Oct 2010 05:14:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6352#comment-279319 <p>As I read this, the comments from Tina Brown and <a href="http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/10/tom_brokaw_agrees_with_tina_br.html">Tom Brokaw</a> encouraging young journalists to go to India come to mind:</p> <blockquote>"Young journalists [should] go work in India," she said. "There are so many great newspapers in India. I go quite a lot, actually. It has a very vibrant newspaper and magazine culture. There's a lot of energy in Delhi, a lot of newsmagazines. It's a very literary culture, it's great."--<a href="http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/09/tina_brown_young_journalists_s.html">Tina Brown</a></blockquote> <p>I believe her about the culture. It is kind of sad to think that working at one of these great publications might carry a bit of a taint if stories like this happen a lot (do they?).</p> As I read this, the comments from Tina Brown and Tom Brokaw encouraging young journalists to go to India come to mind:

“Young journalists [should] go work in India,” she said. “There are so many great newspapers in India. I go quite a lot, actually. It has a very vibrant newspaper and magazine culture. There’s a lot of energy in Delhi, a lot of newsmagazines. It’s a very literary culture, it’s great.”–Tina Brown

I believe her about the culture. It is kind of sad to think that working at one of these great publications might carry a bit of a taint if stories like this happen a lot (do they?).

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By: NotG http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/10/22/original_copy/comment-page-1/#comment-279314 NotG Sat, 23 Oct 2010 01:20:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6352#comment-279314 <p>But we are probably going somewhat off topic. Interns, please feel free to remove the prior comment.</p> But we are probably going somewhat off topic. Interns, please feel free to remove the prior comment.

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By: NotG http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/10/22/original_copy/comment-page-1/#comment-279313 NotG Sat, 23 Oct 2010 01:18:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6352#comment-279313 <p><em>most ppl here reading are american. i'm curious as to what you're saying, but i don't get most of the references. do average indian americans keep up on this?</em></p> <p>I have lived in the US for quite a while as well, not sure if that makes me Indian American to the desi crowd. But I follow certain stories dilligently, and your choice of stories may be different from mine, thats all.</p> <p>CWG=Commonwealth Games. The games were held in Delhi a couple of weeks back, with about 70(?) countries participating. There was corruption in the organization of games, and there is an ongoing enquiry. But more than the corruption, what bothers me is the media. Rather than playing a rational watchdog, they blew things up so out of proportion that a majority of the people were surprised the games even happened, and went largely without hitches. The point is, it stopped being a fair enquiry a long time ago, rather it has degenerated into a gleeful witch hunt.</p> <p>For example, several "facts" used to pillory the organizers turned out to be gross misprepresentations: allegations of bribery during the bidding process, which turned out to be regular incentives every bid had to contain; allegations that they deliberately overpaid for maintainence of the games nerve center, when all that happened was that the rent increased over a period of 5 years.</p> <p>The Ayodhya verdict was handed out by the High Court, partitioning the Babri Masjid and adjoining areas equally among the three litigants. What is not clear at all from the reporting is whether the masjid land is itself partitioned---from what I gather, the answer is no---though, to me, the point is moot. But there is so much <em>nudge nudge</em>, <em>wink wink</em>, selective reporting from all sides that, depending on the newspaper you read, you would think the court insidiously sold out either muslims or hindus.</p> <p>It bothers me that hysteria trumps reasoning to this extent. And if don't see a reasoned process, I am very reluctant to give any credence to what anyone says. While I understand journalism is a cynical profession in every part of the world, in India, it falls into deeper chasms than pretty much every other place I know---including the India of 15 years back.</p> most ppl here reading are american. i’m curious as to what you’re saying, but i don’t get most of the references. do average indian americans keep up on this?

I have lived in the US for quite a while as well, not sure if that makes me Indian American to the desi crowd. But I follow certain stories dilligently, and your choice of stories may be different from mine, thats all.

CWG=Commonwealth Games. The games were held in Delhi a couple of weeks back, with about 70(?) countries participating. There was corruption in the organization of games, and there is an ongoing enquiry. But more than the corruption, what bothers me is the media. Rather than playing a rational watchdog, they blew things up so out of proportion that a majority of the people were surprised the games even happened, and went largely without hitches. The point is, it stopped being a fair enquiry a long time ago, rather it has degenerated into a gleeful witch hunt.

For example, several “facts” used to pillory the organizers turned out to be gross misprepresentations: allegations of bribery during the bidding process, which turned out to be regular incentives every bid had to contain; allegations that they deliberately overpaid for maintainence of the games nerve center, when all that happened was that the rent increased over a period of 5 years.

The Ayodhya verdict was handed out by the High Court, partitioning the Babri Masjid and adjoining areas equally among the three litigants. What is not clear at all from the reporting is whether the masjid land is itself partitioned—from what I gather, the answer is no—though, to me, the point is moot. But there is so much nudge nudge, wink wink, selective reporting from all sides that, depending on the newspaper you read, you would think the court insidiously sold out either muslims or hindus.

It bothers me that hysteria trumps reasoning to this extent. And if don’t see a reasoned process, I am very reluctant to give any credence to what anyone says. While I understand journalism is a cynical profession in every part of the world, in India, it falls into deeper chasms than pretty much every other place I know—including the India of 15 years back.

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By: Anonymous http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/10/22/original_copy/comment-page-1/#comment-279312 Anonymous Sat, 23 Oct 2010 00:51:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6352#comment-279312 <p>"First: he really calls himself Aroon? :)"</p> <p>And spells his last name as Purie? How pretentious!</p> “First: he really calls himself Aroon? :)

And spells his last name as Purie? How pretentious!

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By: nah mean http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/10/22/original_copy/comment-page-1/#comment-279306 nah mean Sat, 23 Oct 2010 00:13:01 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6352#comment-279306 <p>I can confirm NotG's laments. Even hard journalism in India is a joke. Everything on TV is "Breaking News". Everything is depicted as the most insane story you've ever heard. There's a total lack of ethics and standards. The Hindu and Outlook India are good but everything else blows.</p> I can confirm NotG’s laments. Even hard journalism in India is a joke. Everything on TV is “Breaking News”. Everything is depicted as the most insane story you’ve ever heard. There’s a total lack of ethics and standards. The Hindu and Outlook India are good but everything else blows.

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By: teri_maa http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/10/22/original_copy/comment-page-1/#comment-279300 teri_maa Fri, 22 Oct 2010 23:53:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6352#comment-279300 <p>Arrey Beta!</p> <p>This is India, where copyright is the right to copy. We copy a movie plot from hollywood, and then 20 years later we recopy it, to keep it fresh.</p> <p>sab chalta hai. <a href="http://www.indiadailyphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/google-gola.jpg?w=560">http://www.indiadailyphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/google-gola.jpg?w=560</a></p> Arrey Beta!

This is India, where copyright is the right to copy. We copy a movie plot from hollywood, and then 20 years later we recopy it, to keep it fresh.

sab chalta hai. http://www.indiadailyphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/google-gola.jpg?w=560

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By: Rahul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/10/22/original_copy/comment-page-1/#comment-279284 Rahul Fri, 22 Oct 2010 22:46:58 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6352#comment-279284 <blockquote> i'm curious as to what you're saying, but i don't get most of the references.</blockquote> <p>i get the references, but don't really get what he is saying. CWG = commonwealth games.</p> <p>btw, grady hendrix had a couple of brilliantly sarcastic responses, both to the initial non-apology - which was left as a comment on the blog that broke the story, and to the more formal non-apology from purie.</p> <p>http://mumbaiboss.com/2010/10/14/aroon-purie-likes-slate-a-little-too-much/</p> <p>http://www.slate.com/id/2271859/</p> <p>purie is a big name in indian media. it remains to be soon whether purie will live this down in an age of blogs keeping this embarrassment alive, although i am not hopeful of anything happening.</p> i’m curious as to what you’re saying, but i don’t get most of the references.

i get the references, but don’t really get what he is saying. CWG = commonwealth games.

btw, grady hendrix had a couple of brilliantly sarcastic responses, both to the initial non-apology – which was left as a comment on the blog that broke the story, and to the more formal non-apology from purie.

http://mumbaiboss.com/2010/10/14/aroon-purie-likes-slate-a-little-too-much/

http://www.slate.com/id/2271859/

purie is a big name in indian media. it remains to be soon whether purie will live this down in an age of blogs keeping this embarrassment alive, although i am not hopeful of anything happening.

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