Comments on: Getting Gully w/ Ras Ceylon, Mandeep Sethi & Humble the Poet http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/10/21/decolonized/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: bhagat singh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/10/21/decolonized/comment-page-1/#comment-280108 bhagat singh Sun, 28 Nov 2010 03:59:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6351#comment-280108 <p>Seriously I wish some commenters would take heed to the concept of DECOLONIZATION OF THE MIND that these artists are suggesting. If you analyzed the ideas (which are not just "fuck the government" but really challenging the desi status quo) that these guys are saying perhaps you would embrace the connection between South Asia and Africa and understand the historic white washing of that link i.e. Harappa, Mohenjo Daro, and the timing of the Aryan invasion of the subcontinent.</p> <p>Also the people pointing out Ras not pronouncing Ceylon "correctly" are doing some because he is not saying it the British/English way but the guy is from California what do you expect?</p> <p>Respect Ras and Mandeep, lets hope more of our Desi peoples can begin decolonizing their paradigms as these two have started to do.</p> <p>Great post Taz!!!</p> Seriously I wish some commenters would take heed to the concept of DECOLONIZATION OF THE MIND that these artists are suggesting. If you analyzed the ideas (which are not just “fuck the government” but really challenging the desi status quo) that these guys are saying perhaps you would embrace the connection between South Asia and Africa and understand the historic white washing of that link i.e. Harappa, Mohenjo Daro, and the timing of the Aryan invasion of the subcontinent.

Also the people pointing out Ras not pronouncing Ceylon “correctly” are doing some because he is not saying it the British/English way but the guy is from California what do you expect?

Respect Ras and Mandeep, lets hope more of our Desi peoples can begin decolonizing their paradigms as these two have started to do.

Great post Taz!!!

]]> By: Sid http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/10/21/decolonized/comment-page-1/#comment-279915 Sid Thu, 11 Nov 2010 23:24:30 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6351#comment-279915 <p>He can be much more proud of his heritage if he learns to pronounce Ceylon correctly.</p> He can be much more proud of his heritage if he learns to pronounce Ceylon correctly.

]]> By: leg up http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/10/21/decolonized/comment-page-1/#comment-279907 leg up Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:30:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6351#comment-279907 <p>I think they do have some relevant points to make and they are not just about "screw the government" at all - did you even listen? One of the main thrusts is understanding your history and being proud of where you come from. This is a key message for people who feel disconnected form their roots. Understanding your history and decolonizing is the key to maintaining self-esteem and pride.</p> <p>Your comment about the leg up that people have by being shipped over here as slaves is just ridiculous - you really need to sort yourself out, mate.</p> I think they do have some relevant points to make and they are not just about “screw the government” at all – did you even listen? One of the main thrusts is understanding your history and being proud of where you come from. This is a key message for people who feel disconnected form their roots. Understanding your history and decolonizing is the key to maintaining self-esteem and pride.

Your comment about the leg up that people have by being shipped over here as slaves is just ridiculous – you really need to sort yourself out, mate.

]]> By: Sid http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/10/21/decolonized/comment-page-1/#comment-279867 Sid Thu, 11 Nov 2010 01:58:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6351#comment-279867 <p>more often than not, 'conscious hip-hop' gets a pass for its content...i am a underground hip-hop fan, but these guys are just some "fuck the government" types with no real message or context. by all means though, keep hyping them up as some intellectuals with some poignant points to make.</p> <p>also, i'd like to note the profound points that black guy at the end was making about his ancestors being forced to come here without acknowledging the leg up it gives his generation.</p> more often than not, ‘conscious hip-hop’ gets a pass for its content…i am a underground hip-hop fan, but these guys are just some “fuck the government” types with no real message or context. by all means though, keep hyping them up as some intellectuals with some poignant points to make.

also, i’d like to note the profound points that black guy at the end was making about his ancestors being forced to come here without acknowledging the leg up it gives his generation.

]]> By: agree http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/10/21/decolonized/comment-page-1/#comment-279371 agree Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:08:02 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6351#comment-279371 <p>True dat! "Mighty" is the perfect word for the ADF. They played their own instruments in a rock band type of format and were a mixture of different desi types and religions. They also had a fair amount of crossover success (if you measure success by chart position), at least in the UK, with a couple of their tracks.</p> <p>I don't know if anyone remembers Apache Indian as well - another UK artist with a reggae dub type feel. He did a track called "Arranged Marriage". I would probably not put him at the same level as ADF given their musical talents, though.</p> True dat! “Mighty” is the perfect word for the ADF. They played their own instruments in a rock band type of format and were a mixture of different desi types and religions. They also had a fair amount of crossover success (if you measure success by chart position), at least in the UK, with a couple of their tracks.

I don’t know if anyone remembers Apache Indian as well – another UK artist with a reggae dub type feel. He did a track called “Arranged Marriage”. I would probably not put him at the same level as ADF given their musical talents, though.

]]> By: kidpoker666 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/10/21/decolonized/comment-page-1/#comment-279368 kidpoker666 Mon, 25 Oct 2010 07:37:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6351#comment-279368 <p>damn you're old taz!!! haha! just playing</p> <p>But you did have vinyl right?!</p> damn you’re old taz!!! haha! just playing

But you did have vinyl right?!

]]> By: taz http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/10/21/decolonized/comment-page-1/#comment-279367 taz Mon, 25 Oct 2010 07:30:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6351#comment-279367 <p>We didn't have youtube when I was a desi teen. Take a minute to let that sink in. Kid. ;-)</p> We didn’t have youtube when I was a desi teen. Take a minute to let that sink in. Kid. ;-)

]]> By: kidpoker666 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/10/21/decolonized/comment-page-1/#comment-279366 kidpoker666 Mon, 25 Oct 2010 05:36:31 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6351#comment-279366 <p>"Being a brown Desi teen in America would have been a different experience had I had lyrics and music like theirs to listen to"</p> <p>Taz you could have listened to the mighty Asian Dub Foundation... They are the fountainhead for conscious south asians....public enemy meets Rage Against the Machine meets a ton of other awesome shit...</p> <p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DccDYoJwSQ&feature=related</p> “Being a brown Desi teen in America would have been a different experience had I had lyrics and music like theirs to listen to”

Taz you could have listened to the mighty Asian Dub Foundation… They are the fountainhead for conscious south asians….public enemy meets Rage Against the Machine meets a ton of other awesome shit…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DccDYoJwSQ&feature=related

]]> By: bemused http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/10/21/decolonized/comment-page-1/#comment-279364 bemused Mon, 25 Oct 2010 04:12:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6351#comment-279364 <p>"...my own Sri Lankan and Sinhalese culture...My roots come from Sri Lanka. Before they were in Sri Lanka, my ancestors were Dravidian and they came from Ethiopia. Knowing your history is the key."</p> <p>err....what? no one else finds this a bit ridiculous? war-torn, but he was born and raised in california. sinhalese, but somehow dravidian. and ethiopia? what? he doesn't even say ceylon right.</p> <p>i'm probably being overly critical, but i think people give a lot of these dudes passes because they seem harmless and they're doing some interesting/positive things, but man, it's hard to take this guy seriously after reading that.</p> “…my own Sri Lankan and Sinhalese culture…My roots come from Sri Lanka. Before they were in Sri Lanka, my ancestors were Dravidian and they came from Ethiopia. Knowing your history is the key.”

err….what? no one else finds this a bit ridiculous? war-torn, but he was born and raised in california. sinhalese, but somehow dravidian. and ethiopia? what? he doesn’t even say ceylon right.

i’m probably being overly critical, but i think people give a lot of these dudes passes because they seem harmless and they’re doing some interesting/positive things, but man, it’s hard to take this guy seriously after reading that.

]]> By: kidpoker666 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/10/21/decolonized/comment-page-1/#comment-279362 kidpoker666 Mon, 25 Oct 2010 00:22:10 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6351#comment-279362 <p>ras's verse is epic</p> <p>'how does he spit so clean yet sit in the gutter..."</p> ras’s verse is epic

‘how does he spit so clean yet sit in the gutter…”

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