Comments on: Aseem Shukla’s Piece on the Gaza Flotilla http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/14/aseem_shukla_on/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: vivek http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/14/aseem_shukla_on/comment-page-2/#comment-273945 vivek Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:02:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6214#comment-273945 <p>I guess that's that. If anyone wants to take this offline, please feel free to email me at vivek[at] passtheroti [ dot] com</p> I guess that’s that. If anyone wants to take this offline, please feel free to email me at vivek[at] passtheroti [ dot] com

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By: Because http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/14/aseem_shukla_on/comment-page-2/#comment-273944 Because Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:00:01 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6214#comment-273944 <p>Neha, please crack open a history book and you'll find the explanation staring you right in the face:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_genocide</p> <p>80% of the 3 million victims there were hindus. hindu women were routinely singled out for rape (an ongoing and daily practice in modern bangladesh btw) Why you ask? Because the "perfidious hindu influence" on muslim east pakistanis was deemed to be inimical to the pakistani cause.<a href="  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXi-XqaocmA&playnext_from=TL&videos=h8iRfezLCXs&feature=recentf"> so those oh so "martial" west pakistanis who routinely pray for even a speck of arab blood in their genetic make up committed one of the greatest mass murders in the last half century, all under the banner of religion and race.</a></p> <p>Incidentally, the states of pakistan and bangladesh continue to extinguish what remains of their hindu populations from 25% and 30% respectively to less than 1% and 8%, and yet no mention of it on this site. That is why HAF exists. Why does CAIR?</p> <p>Instead of vilifying jews and hindus, i suggest you shine the spotlight on your own cause. I do appreciate, however, how bloggers have time to search for injustice in the distant middle east, but almost methodically ignore it on a site dedicated to the appropriate geography. If this is your idea of a united South Asia, you can keep it...</p> <p>   </p> Neha, please crack open a history book and you’ll find the explanation staring you right in the face:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_genocide

80% of the 3 million victims there were hindus. hindu women were routinely singled out for rape (an ongoing and daily practice in modern bangladesh btw) Why you ask? Because the “perfidious hindu influence” on muslim east pakistanis was deemed to be inimical to the pakistani cause.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXi-XqaocmA&playnext_from=TL&videos=h8iRfezLCXs&feature=recentf“> so those oh so “martial” west pakistanis who routinely pray for even a speck of arab blood in their genetic make up committed one of the greatest mass murders in the last half century, all under the banner of religion and race.

Incidentally, the states of pakistan and bangladesh continue to extinguish what remains of their hindu populations from 25% and 30% respectively to less than 1% and 8%, and yet no mention of it on this site. That is why HAF exists. Why does CAIR?

Instead of vilifying jews and hindus, i suggest you shine the spotlight on your own cause. I do appreciate, however, how bloggers have time to search for injustice in the distant middle east, but almost methodically ignore it on a site dedicated to the appropriate geography. If this is your idea of a united South Asia, you can keep it…

   

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By: PS http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/14/aseem_shukla_on/comment-page-2/#comment-273943 PS Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:39:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6214#comment-273943 <p><i>This is anti-semitism.</i></p> <p>Word. And it is scary.</p> This is anti-semitism.

Word. And it is scary.

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By: vivek http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/14/aseem_shukla_on/comment-page-2/#comment-273942 vivek Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:37:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6214#comment-273942 <p>Ok, both benches are warned. If anyone has a response to #71, let's hear it. If not, that's enough.</p> Ok, both benches are warned. If anyone has a response to #71, let’s hear it. If not, that’s enough.

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By: Manju http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/14/aseem_shukla_on/comment-page-2/#comment-273941 Manju Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:37:34 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6214#comment-273941 <blockquote>Aseem and hAF are basically taking orders from a new master</blockquote> <p>This is anti-semitism.</p> Aseem and hAF are basically taking orders from a new master

This is anti-semitism.

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By: PS http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/14/aseem_shukla_on/comment-page-2/#comment-273938 PS Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:27:42 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6214#comment-273938 <p>Kudos to his article!</p> <p>I remember when Harry Belafonte was calling General Powell a house slave, but in other terms. When you don't have an argument you reach for your own inadequacies and project them to those that disagree with you...this is Neha.</p> Kudos to his article!

I remember when Harry Belafonte was calling General Powell a house slave, but in other terms. When you don’t have an argument you reach for your own inadequacies and project them to those that disagree with you…this is Neha.

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By: delurker http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/14/aseem_shukla_on/comment-page-2/#comment-273937 delurker Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:27:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6214#comment-273937 <p>It looks as if all of Mr. Shukla's or any other columnns that are also featured on HAF's website also have the same disclaimer at the bottom and they are all featured under Recent News, so the treatment of this column is no different. Nor did Mr. Shukla claim that HAF has a different position to him, just that he was not officially speaking for them. The only difference was the extra disclaimer at the top of the article, probably because this is an emotive/contentious topic and one that HAF would rather not be officially pigeonholed into. That's their PR sense at work. Perhaps they shouldn't feature any of the columns to be consistent. Granted, they probably have sympathy for whatever is said in all those columns, but until and unless you speak to every member of HAF, you can't assume it's their "official" position. That seems to be reserved for the press release section. But even if this seems deceptive, what exactly is new about it? A quick check of FIACONA (Indian American Christian organization) shows their own insular preoccupations/biases and alliances with/support for groups/person others find dubious/too influential in American foreign policy and politics. They even have a series of articles on India accompanied by this statement: "A series of unbiased articles by so and so." So, you don't have to read and think for yourself. They've already done the thinking for you and told you they are unbiased articles. Do you honestly believe they are unbiased articles? Would you believe Mr. Shukla if he ran that statement with all his articles, especially the flotialla one? At least his deception didn't go that far. He's not claiming to be objective or unbiased, as far as I can tell.</p> It looks as if all of Mr. Shukla’s or any other columnns that are also featured on HAF’s website also have the same disclaimer at the bottom and they are all featured under Recent News, so the treatment of this column is no different. Nor did Mr. Shukla claim that HAF has a different position to him, just that he was not officially speaking for them. The only difference was the extra disclaimer at the top of the article, probably because this is an emotive/contentious topic and one that HAF would rather not be officially pigeonholed into. That’s their PR sense at work. Perhaps they shouldn’t feature any of the columns to be consistent. Granted, they probably have sympathy for whatever is said in all those columns, but until and unless you speak to every member of HAF, you can’t assume it’s their “official” position. That seems to be reserved for the press release section. But even if this seems deceptive, what exactly is new about it? A quick check of FIACONA (Indian American Christian organization) shows their own insular preoccupations/biases and alliances with/support for groups/person others find dubious/too influential in American foreign policy and politics. They even have a series of articles on India accompanied by this statement: “A series of unbiased articles by so and so.” So, you don’t have to read and think for yourself. They’ve already done the thinking for you and told you they are unbiased articles. Do you honestly believe they are unbiased articles? Would you believe Mr. Shukla if he ran that statement with all his articles, especially the flotialla one? At least his deception didn’t go that far. He’s not claiming to be objective or unbiased, as far as I can tell.

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By: PS http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/14/aseem_shukla_on/comment-page-2/#comment-273935 PS Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:24:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6214#comment-273935 <p>Trully Neha, you are reaching for the lowest common denominator.</p> <p>If telling the truth about Arab run countries is bashing them; then so be it.</p> <p><i>How many Hindus would Israel be willing to hire in its IT or education or service jobs?</i> I don't know, does Israel have a need for IT folks in its small country - they don't have enough educated ones.</p> <p><i>It is always amusing to see Hindu desis bashing Arabs, when so many of them work in Arab countries, and large parts of India is even sustained by money earned from work in arab nations. </i></p> <p>Bashing = telling the truth about the apartheid codified govts of the Muslim govt countries ...okay. So what if Indians and other desis and other asians and africans who come from poorer countries go to the Middle East to be exploited? LOL...that somehow is supposed to mean that hindus are supposed to support countries like Saudi. The sad fact is, Saudis and other oil rich countries don't have the man power willing to work in deplorable conditions so poorer desis, africans and other asians go there to get a job, as much as they hate it. My cousin works in the gulf, and you know why, not enough opportunity in India. So he takes advantage of the global economy.</p> <p>I could bring up muslim desis, in some gulf countries and how they are treated, and why they would blindly support such govts but really all that is not relevant. B/c many Indian muslims don't involve themselves in this matter, when there is much more apartheid and atrocities practiced in these countries that is more relevant to them.</p> <h1>61 Ente, brought up a lot of questions to you; I'd start thinking of an excuses quick on why you are here in the US when we dislocated the Native Americans.</h1> <p>Anyways troll away...</p> <p>So glad Shukla doesn't follow the mainstream crap! Kudos to his article?</p> Trully Neha, you are reaching for the lowest common denominator.

If telling the truth about Arab run countries is bashing them; then so be it.

How many Hindus would Israel be willing to hire in its IT or education or service jobs? I don’t know, does Israel have a need for IT folks in its small country – they don’t have enough educated ones.

It is always amusing to see Hindu desis bashing Arabs, when so many of them work in Arab countries, and large parts of India is even sustained by money earned from work in arab nations.

Bashing = telling the truth about the apartheid codified govts of the Muslim govt countries …okay. So what if Indians and other desis and other asians and africans who come from poorer countries go to the Middle East to be exploited? LOL…that somehow is supposed to mean that hindus are supposed to support countries like Saudi. The sad fact is, Saudis and other oil rich countries don’t have the man power willing to work in deplorable conditions so poorer desis, africans and other asians go there to get a job, as much as they hate it. My cousin works in the gulf, and you know why, not enough opportunity in India. So he takes advantage of the global economy.

I could bring up muslim desis, in some gulf countries and how they are treated, and why they would blindly support such govts but really all that is not relevant. B/c many Indian muslims don’t involve themselves in this matter, when there is much more apartheid and atrocities practiced in these countries that is more relevant to them.

61 Ente, brought up a lot of questions to you; I’d start thinking of an excuses quick on why you are here in the US when we dislocated the Native Americans.

Anyways troll away…

So glad Shukla doesn’t follow the mainstream crap! Kudos to his article?

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By: Rabindranath http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/14/aseem_shukla_on/comment-page-2/#comment-273934 Rabindranath Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:22:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6214#comment-273934 <blockquote>It's amusing to see Hindu desis supporting Zionism, which is a blatantly colonial and racist enterprise.</blockquote> <p>You are a horrible distorter of history. Imagine if I said "It's amusing to see Muslim desis supporting Islam, which is a blatantly colonial and racist enterprise in the Subcontinent." Isn't the latter comment<i> as true</i> as accusing the Jews of colonialism for creating a state where they've lived for millenia? Both claims are false. Unless you hate Muslim desis as much as you appear to hate Israel.</p> It’s amusing to see Hindu desis supporting Zionism, which is a blatantly colonial and racist enterprise.

You are a horrible distorter of history. Imagine if I said “It’s amusing to see Muslim desis supporting Islam, which is a blatantly colonial and racist enterprise in the Subcontinent.” Isn’t the latter comment as true as accusing the Jews of colonialism for creating a state where they’ve lived for millenia? Both claims are false. Unless you hate Muslim desis as much as you appear to hate Israel.

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By: Desi Brit http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/14/aseem_shukla_on/comment-page-2/#comment-273932 Desi Brit Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:20:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6214#comment-273932 <p>Neha,</p> <p>Are you serious or just trolling ? It's ironic that you are displaying such bigoted contempt for Hindus while bashing them for being 'anti-arab'.</p> Neha,

Are you serious or just trolling ? It’s ironic that you are displaying such bigoted contempt for Hindus while bashing them for being ‘anti-arab’.

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