Comments on: David Davidar shown the door http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/12/david_davidar_s/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: hullaboo http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/12/david_davidar_s/comment-page-1/#comment-273787 hullaboo Tue, 15 Jun 2010 04:08:34 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6212#comment-273787 <p><b>whats the password on banker's blog? i'd like to view his post. alternatively, can someone post it pls?</b></p> <p><a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:TarPmsXn5MgJ:ashokbanker.com/2010/06/12/falling-down-a-goliath-named-david/+A+Goliath+Named+David&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a">http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:TarPmsXn5MgJ:ashokbanker.com/2010/06/12/falling-down-a-goliath-named-david/+A+Goliath+Named+David&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a</a></p> whats the password on banker’s blog? i’d like to view his post. alternatively, can someone post it pls?

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:TarPmsXn5MgJ:ashokbanker.com/2010/06/12/falling-down-a-goliath-named-david/+A+Goliath+Named+David&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

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By: jinnuk http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/12/david_davidar_s/comment-page-1/#comment-273786 jinnuk Tue, 15 Jun 2010 03:44:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6212#comment-273786 <p>whats the password on banker's blog? i'd like to view his post. alternatively, can someone post it pls?</p> whats the password on banker’s blog? i’d like to view his post. alternatively, can someone post it pls?

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By: phantom363 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/12/david_davidar_s/comment-page-1/#comment-273776 phantom363 Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:52:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6212#comment-273776 <p>here is the front page coverage in the print edition of the toronto globe and mail. was shocked.</p> <p>http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/davidar-forced-out-of-penguin-canada-amid-sexual-harassment-suit/article1601132/</p> here is the front page coverage in the print edition of the toronto globe and mail. was shocked.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/davidar-forced-out-of-penguin-canada-amid-sexual-harassment-suit/article1601132/

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By: MP http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/12/david_davidar_s/comment-page-1/#comment-273766 MP Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:21:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6212#comment-273766 <p>click <a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:TarPmsXn5MgJ:ashokbanker.com/2010/06/12/falling-down-a-goliath-named-david/+%22Falling+Down:+A+Goliath+Named+David%22+Ashok+Banker&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us"> here </a> to view Google's cache on Ashok Banker's blogpost. It is password protected now so you cannot get to it!</p> click here to view Google’s cache on Ashok Banker’s blogpost. It is password protected now so you cannot get to it!

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By: God Bole http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/12/david_davidar_s/comment-page-1/#comment-273753 God Bole Mon, 14 Jun 2010 06:40:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6212#comment-273753 <p>White Tail, The infosys exec is running a very successful software company that he founded after Infy 'fired' him. Nothing wrong with the guy's character- its all politics one way or the other...</p> White Tail, The infosys exec is running a very successful software company that he founded after Infy ‘fired’ him. Nothing wrong with the guy’s character- its all politics one way or the other…

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By: gm http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/12/david_davidar_s/comment-page-1/#comment-273752 gm Mon, 14 Jun 2010 06:01:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6212#comment-273752 <p>What really irritates me is when sexual harassment occurs at school/college, people just say, "Oh just ignore them.." or "boys will be boys" or "That's life. Grow some balls and put up with it..." Sexual harassment is wrong at every level. People can lose their careers and sanity over this issue.</p> What really irritates me is when sexual harassment occurs at school/college, people just say, “Oh just ignore them..” or “boys will be boys” or “That’s life. Grow some balls and put up with it…” Sexual harassment is wrong at every level. People can lose their careers and sanity over this issue.

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By: gm http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/12/david_davidar_s/comment-page-1/#comment-273751 gm Mon, 14 Jun 2010 05:44:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6212#comment-273751 <p>Where is Aamir Kahn when you need him????</p> <p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T2qtEu9e5o</p> <p>The Justice system will take care of this one way or another. But it's sad because if L. Rundle is correct, Davidar ruined his life, the life of the victim, Davidar's wife's life, his career, etc.</p> Where is Aamir Kahn when you need him????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T2qtEu9e5o

The Justice system will take care of this one way or another. But it’s sad because if L. Rundle is correct, Davidar ruined his life, the life of the victim, Davidar’s wife’s life, his career, etc.

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By: Neha http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/12/david_davidar_s/comment-page-1/#comment-273742 Neha Mon, 14 Jun 2010 03:49:01 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6212#comment-273742 <p>It is really disturbing how the commenters in this thread are leaping to Davidar's defense.</p> <p>Sexual harassment is pernicious, and predators do not wear their behavior on their sleeves. I have no reason to disbelieve Ashok Banker's post -- and I appreciate it, actually. I don't find it at all problematic because it is a raw statement of what he noticed. Nilanajana, on the other hand, sounds like a typical letter of recommendation, generic in her praise. She comes across as tribal in her defense/ It's more like a "save the face of publishing, Indianness," etc. that is an undercurrent in her post.</p> <p>The reality is that if Rundle did not have evidence of the emails, etc., David would have never been fired so summarily. It is obvious that Penguin protected him for years. There is a reason why they are suddenly dropping him.</p> <p>If even half of what Rundle is alleging is true, then Davidar should be sent to share a cell with Alexandar Jon. Scum like these men dominate Indian film, music, fashion industries. Now it is evident that they dominate the publishing world as well.</p> <p>My heart goes out to the millions of Indian women who do not have cultural or legal protection against sexual harassment.</p> It is really disturbing how the commenters in this thread are leaping to Davidar’s defense.

Sexual harassment is pernicious, and predators do not wear their behavior on their sleeves. I have no reason to disbelieve Ashok Banker’s post — and I appreciate it, actually. I don’t find it at all problematic because it is a raw statement of what he noticed. Nilanajana, on the other hand, sounds like a typical letter of recommendation, generic in her praise. She comes across as tribal in her defense/ It’s more like a “save the face of publishing, Indianness,” etc. that is an undercurrent in her post.

The reality is that if Rundle did not have evidence of the emails, etc., David would have never been fired so summarily. It is obvious that Penguin protected him for years. There is a reason why they are suddenly dropping him.

If even half of what Rundle is alleging is true, then Davidar should be sent to share a cell with Alexandar Jon. Scum like these men dominate Indian film, music, fashion industries. Now it is evident that they dominate the publishing world as well.

My heart goes out to the millions of Indian women who do not have cultural or legal protection against sexual harassment.

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By: Manju http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/12/david_davidar_s/comment-page-1/#comment-273735 Manju Sun, 13 Jun 2010 23:30:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6212#comment-273735 <p>I don't asign too much worth on these "I know him and he never did that in my presence" aguments. You don't really hear that for other crimes: "I knew OJ and he never stabbed <i>me.</i>." Plus, every time a serial killer gets caught all the neighbors are like "but he was the nicest guy."</p> <p>I find it hard to believe Banker is lying, since the incident in question involved a meeting that presumably could be collaborated by other witnesses. Jyotsana's comparison of this to when Banker was "one of those better off South Bombay kids" who somehow managed to never live in South Bombay and allegedly threw himself at women doesn't hold, since he didn't throw himself at women who worked for him. Unless you're Rand Paul or Bill Clinton, that's a critical distinction. It certainly is for the law.</p> I don’t asign too much worth on these “I know him and he never did that in my presence” aguments. You don’t really hear that for other crimes: “I knew OJ and he never stabbed me..” Plus, every time a serial killer gets caught all the neighbors are like “but he was the nicest guy.”

I find it hard to believe Banker is lying, since the incident in question involved a meeting that presumably could be collaborated by other witnesses. Jyotsana’s comparison of this to when Banker was “one of those better off South Bombay kids” who somehow managed to never live in South Bombay and allegedly threw himself at women doesn’t hold, since he didn’t throw himself at women who worked for him. Unless you’re Rand Paul or Bill Clinton, that’s a critical distinction. It certainly is for the law.

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By: Malathi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/12/david_davidar_s/comment-page-1/#comment-273734 Malathi Sun, 13 Jun 2010 23:24:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6212#comment-273734 <p>Everybody seems to know everybody else. Please come clean with personal connections, skirmishes, disagreements etc while mud-slinging or expressing outrage :) (If I remember correctly, there is at least one more undeclared history.) I appreciate Roshan's inclusion of his real-world identity.</p> <p>I don't know Banker personally but from what I know of his biography/life and opinions that is in print here and there, I had long ago decided that he is my hero among all Indian writers in English (that I don't know personally) and among all Indian upper middle-class youth that had to survive dysfunctional and outside-of-the-norm personal histories. The way I see it, he has nothing to lose anymore; so he can afford to be different and brash in every which way. To me, he is refreshing as it is a very small, homogeneous Indian English writer/publishing world out there.</p> Everybody seems to know everybody else. Please come clean with personal connections, skirmishes, disagreements etc while mud-slinging or expressing outrage :) (If I remember correctly, there is at least one more undeclared history.) I appreciate Roshan’s inclusion of his real-world identity.

I don’t know Banker personally but from what I know of his biography/life and opinions that is in print here and there, I had long ago decided that he is my hero among all Indian writers in English (that I don’t know personally) and among all Indian upper middle-class youth that had to survive dysfunctional and outside-of-the-norm personal histories. The way I see it, he has nothing to lose anymore; so he can afford to be different and brash in every which way. To me, he is refreshing as it is a very small, homogeneous Indian English writer/publishing world out there.

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