Comments on: SM’s paper bag test http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/04/sms_paper_bag_t/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Paul Smith http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/04/sms_paper_bag_t/comment-page-1/#comment-281404 Paul Smith Tue, 08 Feb 2011 20:12:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6200#comment-281404 <p>check out this shirt http://www.vchristianstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=762</p> check out this shirt http://www.vchristianstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=762

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By: Vivek http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/04/sms_paper_bag_t/comment-page-1/#comment-273328 Vivek Sun, 06 Jun 2010 17:49:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6200#comment-273328 <p>She does not look white. I have seen mulattos and gypsies who look like that.</p> She does not look white. I have seen mulattos and gypsies who look like that.

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By: Zaf http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/04/sms_paper_bag_t/comment-page-1/#comment-273316 Zaf Sun, 06 Jun 2010 07:16:44 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6200#comment-273316 <p>yeh maxfactor kamaal ki cheez hai.</p> yeh maxfactor kamaal ki cheez hai.

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By: LinZi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/04/sms_paper_bag_t/comment-page-1/#comment-273279 LinZi Sat, 05 Jun 2010 17:49:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6200#comment-273279 <p>Ennis, I get your point... she doesn't have stereotypical "Indianness" about her... she don't have an Indian name, she is rather light as well, I don't think people would realize that she is of Indian origin right away unless they read up on her.</p> <p>From her pictures it looks like she and her kids have a similar complexion/hair to me (i.e. olive toned, dark hair) and her daughter actually has blue eyes (she actually uses her Indian name here too which is interesting: www.flickr.com/photos/32938591@N04/3163539286) so I could see why people could just assume she is white. But I think she is also on the borderline and could be just as easily construed to be of Indian Ancestry... People generally assume I am white (which I am) but if they hear my fiance is Indian and/or that I studied Indian culture the first question is always "Oh, are you from India?" or "Are you part Indian?" and I don't think I look Indian at all personally, but that is how people's minds work I guess... ethnicity= looks + context.</p> Ennis, I get your point… she doesn’t have stereotypical “Indianness” about her… she don’t have an Indian name, she is rather light as well, I don’t think people would realize that she is of Indian origin right away unless they read up on her.

From her pictures it looks like she and her kids have a similar complexion/hair to me (i.e. olive toned, dark hair) and her daughter actually has blue eyes (she actually uses her Indian name here too which is interesting: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32938591@N04/3163539286) so I could see why people could just assume she is white. But I think she is also on the borderline and could be just as easily construed to be of Indian Ancestry… People generally assume I am white (which I am) but if they hear my fiance is Indian and/or that I studied Indian culture the first question is always “Oh, are you from India?” or “Are you part Indian?” and I don’t think I look Indian at all personally, but that is how people’s minds work I guess… ethnicity= looks + context.

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By: wunderbar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/04/sms_paper_bag_t/comment-page-1/#comment-273275 wunderbar Sat, 05 Jun 2010 17:27:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6200#comment-273275 <h1>18: Biden had to apologize for calling Obama "lightly coloured" (or some such). Reducing people to their physical characteristics is cringeworthy - whether it be skin colour or bra size.</h1> 18: Biden had to apologize for calling Obama “lightly coloured” (or some such). Reducing people to their physical characteristics is cringeworthy – whether it be skin colour or bra size.]]> By: KK http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/04/sms_paper_bag_t/comment-page-1/#comment-273262 KK Sat, 05 Jun 2010 06:47:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6200#comment-273262 <blockquote>Nicky is also a very common Punjabi nickname.</blockquote> <p>Right. Because 'Nikki' translates as 'little one' (female) in Punjabi. (Did people note how Nikki Haley spells that phonetically, not privileging the anglicized 'Nicky').</p> Nicky is also a very common Punjabi nickname.

Right. Because ‘Nikki’ translates as ‘little one’ (female) in Punjabi. (Did people note how Nikki Haley spells that phonetically, not privileging the anglicized ‘Nicky’).

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By: SomeBodyUK http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/04/sms_paper_bag_t/comment-page-1/#comment-273255 SomeBodyUK Sat, 05 Jun 2010 04:25:56 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6200#comment-273255 <p>Wow, some people have issues with skin colour - FWIW, Punjabi skin tones can vary enormously. My mother is very pale, she gets mistaken for Italian often, whereas I am pretty brown & proud of it.</p> <p>Nicky is also a very common Punjabi nickname. I have a cousin whose real name is Harpreet, her nickname is pronounced Nik-ay, and she writes her name down as Nicky. I have a brother called Bobby.</p> Wow, some people have issues with skin colour – FWIW, Punjabi skin tones can vary enormously. My mother is very pale, she gets mistaken for Italian often, whereas I am pretty brown & proud of it.

Nicky is also a very common Punjabi nickname. I have a cousin whose real name is Harpreet, her nickname is pronounced Nik-ay, and she writes her name down as Nicky. I have a brother called Bobby.

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By: Ennis http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/04/sms_paper_bag_t/comment-page-1/#comment-273241 Ennis Sat, 05 Jun 2010 01:41:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6200#comment-273241 <p>Four posts: (1) Nikki’s pagan past and pious present, (2) SM’s paper bag test, (3) That’s the Raghead-in-Chief to you (updated), (4) The Manchurian Gobi Candidate</p> <p>The first two are essentially one post, but the three column format makes it hard for people to read a single long post. This should have gone up weeks ago but I was busy. The Raghead-in-Chief was written from the early report of Knott's comments, and was earnest political analysis. The MSM is still working off of this version of remarks. The Manchurian Gobi Candidate was written after a longer purported version of his comments became available, and was humor.</p> <p>It's the Andrew Sullivan model of blogging, more shorter posts on a running topic rather than a single omnibus post. I don't know if it's a good or a bad idea, but I thought I would try it. I wont usually have the time for this though.</p> Four posts: (1) Nikki’s pagan past and pious present, (2) SM’s paper bag test, (3) That’s the Raghead-in-Chief to you (updated), (4) The Manchurian Gobi Candidate

The first two are essentially one post, but the three column format makes it hard for people to read a single long post. This should have gone up weeks ago but I was busy. The Raghead-in-Chief was written from the early report of Knott’s comments, and was earnest political analysis. The MSM is still working off of this version of remarks. The Manchurian Gobi Candidate was written after a longer purported version of his comments became available, and was humor.

It’s the Andrew Sullivan model of blogging, more shorter posts on a running topic rather than a single omnibus post. I don’t know if it’s a good or a bad idea, but I thought I would try it. I wont usually have the time for this though.

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By: KK http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/04/sms_paper_bag_t/comment-page-1/#comment-273238 KK Sat, 05 Jun 2010 00:55:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6200#comment-273238 <p><b>Ennis</b>, good to see you blogging again, but man, <i>five</i> posts on essentially the same subject? Perhaps there's still time to consolidate them.</p> <p>BTW, did anyone notice that the one film personality Nikki Haley looks most like, is the most googled person in the world - Katrina Kaif (i.e., not so much the other KK - Kareena Kapoor whose name came up). What's most interesting is that Katrina Kaif has recently starred in a movie by Prakash Jha, which is, of all things, about politics, called <b>Raajneeti</b> ('politics' in Hindi).</p> <blockquote>Raajneeti is an out and out political film, at last, and the only love in this story is love for power and yet more power.To attain that kursi, anything goes. Fathers are killed, sex is used as blackmail, daughters are deployed as bargaining chips and entire families destroyed, all in the name of raajneeti. </blockquote> <p>Also, Nikki Haley and Knotts have a history - <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt4dHqeon_8">here they go at each other</a> in the SC Legislature. (The clip is posted today by her campaign, but it is from earlier.)</p> Ennis, good to see you blogging again, but man, five posts on essentially the same subject? Perhaps there’s still time to consolidate them.

BTW, did anyone notice that the one film personality Nikki Haley looks most like, is the most googled person in the world – Katrina Kaif (i.e., not so much the other KK – Kareena Kapoor whose name came up). What’s most interesting is that Katrina Kaif has recently starred in a movie by Prakash Jha, which is, of all things, about politics, called Raajneeti (‘politics’ in Hindi).

Raajneeti is an out and out political film, at last, and the only love in this story is love for power and yet more power.To attain that kursi, anything goes. Fathers are killed, sex is used as blackmail, daughters are deployed as bargaining chips and entire families destroyed, all in the name of raajneeti.

Also, Nikki Haley and Knotts have a history – here they go at each other in the SC Legislature. (The clip is posted today by her campaign, but it is from earlier.)

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By: louiecypher http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/06/04/sms_paper_bag_t/comment-page-1/#comment-273233 louiecypher Sat, 05 Jun 2010 00:34:36 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6200#comment-273233 <p>There is a broad spectrum of "whiteness", just as there is wide variation in the look of Indians. How do I know Nikki Haley can "pass"? Because like Ennis I have heard non-desi friends expressing surprise about her ethnicity when she is identified as a "minority candidate". She does stand out in sea of very light haired & complexioned Scots-Irish, but given her name and looks people would likely assume that she was Southern European married to a local boy. More accurately, I would describe her as contextually white. In other words if she were walking down the street with the extended Randhawa clan, which is likely to include at least a few people of a more typical Indian phenotype like Jindal, she would readily be classified as Indian instead of white</p> There is a broad spectrum of “whiteness”, just as there is wide variation in the look of Indians. How do I know Nikki Haley can “pass”? Because like Ennis I have heard non-desi friends expressing surprise about her ethnicity when she is identified as a “minority candidate”. She does stand out in sea of very light haired & complexioned Scots-Irish, but given her name and looks people would likely assume that she was Southern European married to a local boy. More accurately, I would describe her as contextually white. In other words if she were walking down the street with the extended Randhawa clan, which is likely to include at least a few people of a more typical Indian phenotype like Jindal, she would readily be classified as Indian instead of white

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