Comments on: Chuck Schumer’s “Outsourcing Tax” http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/05/31/chuck_schumers/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Corey Brown http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/05/31/chuck_schumers/comment-page-1/#comment-279438 Corey Brown Thu, 28 Oct 2010 09:41:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6193#comment-279438 <p>A quarter for a call? That's what the caller would pay for a few minutes use of a street payphone. The 800 system cost the company more than a quarter, so why is this quarter tax so bad?</p> <p>As for having to tell the caller the location from which it's being serviced, after a while most people would not really care.</p> <p>Also, just as Japan made a city called "Usa" to be able to mark items as being "Made in Usa" something equally ingenious is likely to come about, such as "you call be in tran sfa to In Dee Uh soo viss sen tah"</p> A quarter for a call? That’s what the caller would pay for a few minutes use of a street payphone. The 800 system cost the company more than a quarter, so why is this quarter tax so bad?

As for having to tell the caller the location from which it’s being serviced, after a while most people would not really care.

Also, just as Japan made a city called “Usa” to be able to mark items as being “Made in Usa” something equally ingenious is likely to come about, such as “you call be in tran sfa to In Dee Uh soo viss sen tah”

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By: duh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/05/31/chuck_schumers/comment-page-1/#comment-272915 duh Tue, 01 Jun 2010 23:58:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6193#comment-272915 <blockquote>This legislation is good for the American worker so that greedy American corporations with no sense of patriotism cannot walk scot free while making loads of profit by destroying American jobs.</blockquote> <p>the number of economic idiots out on this comment thread is truly impressive.</p> This legislation is good for the American worker so that greedy American corporations with no sense of patriotism cannot walk scot free while making loads of profit by destroying American jobs.

the number of economic idiots out on this comment thread is truly impressive.

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By: Mangesh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/05/31/chuck_schumers/comment-page-1/#comment-272912 Mangesh Tue, 01 Jun 2010 22:46:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6193#comment-272912 <p>Senator Chuck Schumer is an American politician who should have the interests of the American people and the American nation at heart in work not that of India and Indians. This legislation is good for the American worker so that greedy American corporations with no sense of patriotism cannot walk scot free while making loads of profit by destroying American jobs. Yes for nations like India or the Philippines it may be a bit of a set back but it is good for America and he is an American politician. I am an Indian who lives in India and even I do not understand why this legislation is wrong for America.</p> Senator Chuck Schumer is an American politician who should have the interests of the American people and the American nation at heart in work not that of India and Indians. This legislation is good for the American worker so that greedy American corporations with no sense of patriotism cannot walk scot free while making loads of profit by destroying American jobs. Yes for nations like India or the Philippines it may be a bit of a set back but it is good for America and he is an American politician. I am an Indian who lives in India and even I do not understand why this legislation is wrong for America.

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By: Puliogre in da USA http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/05/31/chuck_schumers/comment-page-1/#comment-272910 Puliogre in da USA Tue, 01 Jun 2010 22:29:36 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6193#comment-272910 <blockquote>As for the religious issue, I laugh. Jindal, born a Hindu, is now a GOP darling.</blockquote> <p>sure... you can be a GOP darling if you are born hindu as long as you convert to christianity... that smacks of tolerance of other religions out of the republican party...</p> As for the religious issue, I laugh. Jindal, born a Hindu, is now a GOP darling.

sure… you can be a GOP darling if you are born hindu as long as you convert to christianity… that smacks of tolerance of other religions out of the republican party…

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By: Darth Paul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/05/31/chuck_schumers/comment-page-1/#comment-272909 Darth Paul Tue, 01 Jun 2010 21:03:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6193#comment-272909 <blockquote>How do you figure that "repubs are the reason why we have such heavy outsourcing to India"? You seem to assume that India's very well-being, dignity, and prestige relies only upon outsourcing.</blockquote> <p>And how do you figure I assume any of that? I pointed out that under repubs 'corporations first' ideology, India (as well as the Philipines and a few other countries) have benefitted, and that's a fact. But to indulge you a bit:</p> <p>Who expanded nuclear cooperation with India? BUSH</p> <p>Who (along w/EU and Japan) sanctioned India for the Pokhran nuclear tests? US UNDER CLINTON</p> <p>Who sidled right up on the ostensibly anti-terrorism tip when those pesky Paks started acting up? BUSH</p> <p>Who backtracked and visited India as an afterthought in Summer of 2009 when the Asian tour was months beforehand? HILLARY CLINTON</p> <p>As for the religious issue, I laugh. Jindal, born a Hindu, is now a GOP darling. If you think Dems are sanctimoniously and unanimously anti-racism and pro-religious freedom, I laugh even harder.</p> <p>In any case, I don't love republicans. I don't even like them, but I understand them: they love wealth. Everything else is secondary. Sounds like PLENTY of Indians I know...</p> How do you figure that “repubs are the reason why we have such heavy outsourcing to India”? You seem to assume that India’s very well-being, dignity, and prestige relies only upon outsourcing.

And how do you figure I assume any of that? I pointed out that under repubs ‘corporations first’ ideology, India (as well as the Philipines and a few other countries) have benefitted, and that’s a fact. But to indulge you a bit:

Who expanded nuclear cooperation with India? BUSH

Who (along w/EU and Japan) sanctioned India for the Pokhran nuclear tests? US UNDER CLINTON

Who sidled right up on the ostensibly anti-terrorism tip when those pesky Paks started acting up? BUSH

Who backtracked and visited India as an afterthought in Summer of 2009 when the Asian tour was months beforehand? HILLARY CLINTON

As for the religious issue, I laugh. Jindal, born a Hindu, is now a GOP darling. If you think Dems are sanctimoniously and unanimously anti-racism and pro-religious freedom, I laugh even harder.

In any case, I don’t love republicans. I don’t even like them, but I understand them: they love wealth. Everything else is secondary. Sounds like PLENTY of Indians I know…

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By: boston_mahesh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/05/31/chuck_schumers/comment-page-1/#comment-272902 boston_mahesh Tue, 01 Jun 2010 17:06:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6193#comment-272902 <p><b> 18 · Darth Paul on June 1, 2010 10:12 AM · Direct link The Dems have always been good to the Indians, and the Republicans - after they do their dark rituals for Reagan the Concentrator of Wealth - have always done bad for the Deshland. </b></p> <p><i> I'ma feel dirty after pointing this out, but the repubs are the reason why we have such heavy outsourcing to India. One major facet of the neocon agenda was unchecked outsourcing, within and without the federal government. India benefitted hugely from this, whether or not the repubs are "pro-India"...you're right, they're pro-money, but India got a piece of their pie. </i></p> <p><i> Dems have been fiercely protectivist from the get-go. The US is also essentially China-codependent now, so singling out other countries is the orthodox thing to do now for protectionists. </i></p> <p>How do you figure that "repubs are the reason why we have such heavy outsourcing to India"? You seem to assume that India's very well-being, dignity, and prestige relies only upon outsourcing. My friend, India's economy is very minorly dependent on outsourcing. India is <b>not</b> an export-driven economy. We're actually a net-importer.</p> <p>Who increased H1Bs from India? Clinton. That's who.</p> <p>Who decreased H1Bs from India? Bush. That's who.</p> <p>Which party is for having hate crime laws? Democrats?</p> <p>Which party allows more freedom-of-religion and doesn't refer to Hinduism as a wicked religion that prays to monkey-gods?</p> <p>Finally, which American party advocated to Winston Churchill that India should have its own sovereignity? FDR of the Democrats.</p> <p>So go on and call up Dell's customer support and tell them how much you love your shotgun, your golf clubs, and how America is a Christian nation of wh1te pe0ple.</p> 18 · Darth Paul on June 1, 2010 10:12 AM · Direct link The Dems have always been good to the Indians, and the Republicans – after they do their dark rituals for Reagan the Concentrator of Wealth – have always done bad for the Deshland.

I’ma feel dirty after pointing this out, but the repubs are the reason why we have such heavy outsourcing to India. One major facet of the neocon agenda was unchecked outsourcing, within and without the federal government. India benefitted hugely from this, whether or not the repubs are “pro-India”…you’re right, they’re pro-money, but India got a piece of their pie.

Dems have been fiercely protectivist from the get-go. The US is also essentially China-codependent now, so singling out other countries is the orthodox thing to do now for protectionists.

How do you figure that “repubs are the reason why we have such heavy outsourcing to India”? You seem to assume that India’s very well-being, dignity, and prestige relies only upon outsourcing. My friend, India’s economy is very minorly dependent on outsourcing. India is not an export-driven economy. We’re actually a net-importer.

Who increased H1Bs from India? Clinton. That’s who.

Who decreased H1Bs from India? Bush. That’s who.

Which party is for having hate crime laws? Democrats?

Which party allows more freedom-of-religion and doesn’t refer to Hinduism as a wicked religion that prays to monkey-gods?

Finally, which American party advocated to Winston Churchill that India should have its own sovereignity? FDR of the Democrats.

So go on and call up Dell’s customer support and tell them how much you love your shotgun, your golf clubs, and how America is a Christian nation of wh1te pe0ple.

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By: Darth Paul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/05/31/chuck_schumers/comment-page-1/#comment-272901 Darth Paul Tue, 01 Jun 2010 16:12:44 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6193#comment-272901 <blockquote>The Dems have always been good to the Indians, and the Republicans - after they do their dark rituals for Reagan the Concentrator of Wealth - have always done bad for the Deshland. </blockquote> <p>I'ma feel dirty after pointing this out, but the repubs are the reason why we have such heavy outsourcing to India. One major facet of the neocon agenda was unchecked outsourcing, within and without the federal government. India benefitted hugely from this, whether or not the repubs are "pro-India"...you're right, they're pro-money, but India got a piece of their pie.</p> <p>Dems have been fiercely protectivist from the get-go. The US is also essentially China-codependent now, so singling out other countries is the orthodox thing to do now for protectionists.</p> The Dems have always been good to the Indians, and the Republicans – after they do their dark rituals for Reagan the Concentrator of Wealth – have always done bad for the Deshland.

I’ma feel dirty after pointing this out, but the repubs are the reason why we have such heavy outsourcing to India. One major facet of the neocon agenda was unchecked outsourcing, within and without the federal government. India benefitted hugely from this, whether or not the repubs are “pro-India”…you’re right, they’re pro-money, but India got a piece of their pie.

Dems have been fiercely protectivist from the get-go. The US is also essentially China-codependent now, so singling out other countries is the orthodox thing to do now for protectionists.

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By: Oodoodanoo http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/05/31/chuck_schumers/comment-page-1/#comment-272900 Oodoodanoo Tue, 01 Jun 2010 16:08:46 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6193#comment-272900 <p>The American public would overwhelmingly support Schumer, especially if they hear economists are against him. The question is whether businesses can line up enough funding to kill this in the back room. And that's probably the point. This isn't supposed to see the light of day. It's a fundraiser.</p> The American public would overwhelmingly support Schumer, especially if they hear economists are against him. The question is whether businesses can line up enough funding to kill this in the back room. And that’s probably the point. This isn’t supposed to see the light of day. It’s a fundraiser.

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By: melbourne desi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/05/31/chuck_schumers/comment-page-1/#comment-272898 melbourne desi Tue, 01 Jun 2010 08:24:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6193#comment-272898 <p>"you must be one of those people who does not believe in climate change because the local weatherman cannot tell tomorrow's temperature accurately" dont know about your local weatherperson - mine does predict the weather for the week quite accurately :)<br /> If my local weatherman did not predict a Category 5 hurricane hitting my home in the next 24 hours I d have no reason to believe him (mine is a she). Economics is at the same stage where chemistry was at in the 16th century - alchemy by another name.</p> <p>"any data at all to back up your claim?" - enough to debate krugman and mankiw together :) any "feminist" knows that studies are manipulated to reinforce the existing patriarchy.<br /> for small nations trade is their survival mechanism eg Oz / Sweden / Singapore. For 200 million plus nations with heaps of natural resources ??</p> <p>Outsourcing is great for India / China - just dont know if it is such a great idea for the USA.</p> “you must be one of those people who does not believe in climate change because the local weatherman cannot tell tomorrow’s temperature accurately” dont know about your local weatherperson – mine does predict the weather for the week quite accurately :)
If my local weatherman did not predict a Category 5 hurricane hitting my home in the next 24 hours I d have no reason to believe him (mine is a she). Economics is at the same stage where chemistry was at in the 16th century – alchemy by another name.

“any data at all to back up your claim?” – enough to debate krugman and mankiw together :) any “feminist” knows that studies are manipulated to reinforce the existing patriarchy.
for small nations trade is their survival mechanism eg Oz / Sweden / Singapore. For 200 million plus nations with heaps of natural resources ??

Outsourcing is great for India / China – just dont know if it is such a great idea for the USA.

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By: boston_mahesh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/05/31/chuck_schumers/comment-page-1/#comment-272895 boston_mahesh Tue, 01 Jun 2010 07:07:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6193#comment-272895 <p><b> 3 · psamty on May 31, 2010 3:15 PM · Direct link What's new? Dems have always been the anti-India party. It's just too bad the other party doesn't offer anything compelling. I'm hoping the new libertarian populism will bring this down. </b></p> <p>Psamty:</p> <p>The Democrats have done far more pro-Indian measures in the last several decades, and the Republicans have done far more things antagonistic towards India.<br /> 1. The Dems have always been more pro-immigration (legal, of course). Prior to LBJ in '65, only Northern Europeans especially and other Europeans also were allowed in mass into this country, and only about 100 or so visas were issued to people of Asia. However, LBJ changed all that. Thanks LBJ! 2. Just after LBJ, we had a Republican president named Nixon. He almost declared war on India in '71. That is, until the Soviets threatened to liberate their ships stationed in the Philippines. Nixon's Secretary of State, Kissinger, said that "Indians are bastards anyway" and Nixon had his comments on this as well. 3. Reagan, the God who surpasses Jesus for the Republicans, gave the Pakistanis so much money and arms, covertly and manifestly. To be fair, they used this very well for a just cause to help liberate Afghanistan. 4. Clinton actually visited India in March '00, and many analysts compare this visit to the one that Nixon did in China which helped China become a super power (not over-night). This was like India's debutante moment. Clinton, however, did <em>NOT</em> spend much time in Pakistan - only 6 hours.<br /> 5. Bush Jr. was great to Pakistan, especially. He was also good to India. He was horrible to Americans just like the Viet Cong were horrible towards Americans.<br /> 6. Obama is going to do a hell lot of good for the Desh. He loves fried chicken, tandoori chicken, halal chicken, and tofurky.</p> <p>The Dems have always been good to the Indians, and the Republicans - after they do their dark rituals for Reagan the Concentrator of Wealth - have always done bad for the Deshland.</p> 3 · psamty on May 31, 2010 3:15 PM · Direct link What’s new? Dems have always been the anti-India party. It’s just too bad the other party doesn’t offer anything compelling. I’m hoping the new libertarian populism will bring this down.

Psamty:

The Democrats have done far more pro-Indian measures in the last several decades, and the Republicans have done far more things antagonistic towards India.
1. The Dems have always been more pro-immigration (legal, of course). Prior to LBJ in ’65, only Northern Europeans especially and other Europeans also were allowed in mass into this country, and only about 100 or so visas were issued to people of Asia. However, LBJ changed all that. Thanks LBJ! 2. Just after LBJ, we had a Republican president named Nixon. He almost declared war on India in ’71. That is, until the Soviets threatened to liberate their ships stationed in the Philippines. Nixon’s Secretary of State, Kissinger, said that “Indians are bastards anyway” and Nixon had his comments on this as well. 3. Reagan, the God who surpasses Jesus for the Republicans, gave the Pakistanis so much money and arms, covertly and manifestly. To be fair, they used this very well for a just cause to help liberate Afghanistan. 4. Clinton actually visited India in March ’00, and many analysts compare this visit to the one that Nixon did in China which helped China become a super power (not over-night). This was like India’s debutante moment. Clinton, however, did NOT spend much time in Pakistan – only 6 hours.
5. Bush Jr. was great to Pakistan, especially. He was also good to India. He was horrible to Americans just like the Viet Cong were horrible towards Americans.
6. Obama is going to do a hell lot of good for the Desh. He loves fried chicken, tandoori chicken, halal chicken, and tofurky.

The Dems have always been good to the Indians, and the Republicans – after they do their dark rituals for Reagan the Concentrator of Wealth – have always done bad for the Deshland.

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