Comments on: She Just Pulled a Kaavya

By: SP

SP — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 22:38:26 +0000

Swap–I’m with others here, truly very honorable of you to say what you did, you couldn’t be more right that, in the end, hip hop is a movement and, the movement is about pushing something forward. If Karmacy can lay a foundation upon which others build, then let them build. Karmacy is doing a service. I agree that recognition would have been nice, and certainly appropriate, here. But the lack of that recognition doesn’t change what’s so cool–that this girl used your lyrics. Who doesn’t want to be “cited,” right? I’d consider it an honor, too!

By: Brij and Bablie

Brij and Bablie — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 02:05:06 +0000

If anybody from the “Indian Idol” production staff is reading this blog, that person should make amends to Karmacy by attributing the lyrics to the original artists. It is unconscionable that a budding artist would use plagiarized lyrics from other budding artists and make no attempt to clarify that they are not her original work. In fact, there should be demerits associated with such chicanery.

By: Srini

Srini — Sat, 29 May 2010 10:11:53 +0000

In bollywood, there's a long tradition of lifting the tunes and lyrics from other parts of the world ( and even from hindi to tamil/telugu or vice versa ). One of the judges of this very show, Anu Malik himself has made a career out of it, a rather successful one. Its not a big deal in India even if this singer meant to do it on purpose ( I don't believe she did though ) The premise of the show itself is based on the contestants singing someone else's works. Moreover, people take it easy on the so called "cheating" in India, whether it be in your tests at school or it be a singing contest :).

Here are some examples of Anu Malik's blatant lifts

Bollywood Version : Sun Sun Sun Barsaat ki Dhun : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6MRToAZa3E Original Version : Listen to the falling rain : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac8fqSbisqA

Bollywood Version : Taaren Hai Baarati : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp1abpd3WL0 Original Version : El condor pasa : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuG35Tbrtbw

Bollywood Version : Raja ko Rani se Pyar : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu9dEgHAd4o Original Version : Godfather Theme : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my23rf7OOHY

And he has at least 20 or 30 of such hits and he hasn't credited the original composer even once.. but nobody cares in India because as long as its being made available in some form, people are happy.

By: Pagla

Pagla — Sat, 29 May 2010 05:45:34 +0000

It’s possible that she did mention Karmacy, but it got edited out because Indian audiences wouldn’t have related with it

By: Pravin

Pravin — Sat, 29 May 2010 01:56:55 +0000

Well, there was this guy posting as Jyostsana. So I thought it was a new trend of guys wanting to be gals. BTW, the assumption for heterosexual relationships will always be the dominant one based on pure numbers. It doesn’t mean we hate lesbians and gays.

By: apsara77

apsara77 — Fri, 28 May 2010 05:01:03 +0000

to pravin: what makes you think that I’m a guy? just cause my partner happens to be female, you automatically assume that its a heterosexual relationship and that i must be using a male ID? wow! heterosexism in clear action here!

By: Pravin

Pravin — Fri, 28 May 2010 02:54:44 +0000

apsara77

What is up with another guy using a female nick on these threads?

Anyway, these Idol shows are lame. I didn't watch American Idol this season though I caught the last 20 min or so of yesterday's finale. Some guy won and clips of his singing seemed pretty bad. The Crystal chick seemed much better. BUt then again, I get a kick out of the bad singers getting ahead on these shows. The last time I paid close attention to American Idol was when that moron Sanjaya entertained with his awful singing. I wanted him to go all the way so he could ruin that show.

By: ak

ak — Fri, 28 May 2010 00:51:29 +0000

Do contestants usually credit every damn song they sing at those American Idol auditions?

Except she credited the Spice Girls while not crediting Karmacy, leaving the reasonable interpretation that she was trying to pass that part of her routine off as her own. Plus, the argument that it was understood by the judges as not her original composition is a bit weaker, given that it was not part of her main performance.

By: Yoga Fire

Yoga Fire — Thu, 27 May 2010 23:09:31 +0000

Indiaâ€™s copyright laws actually provide a much greater (and more sensible) level of latitude for fair use than the US. I donâ€™t actually think someone busting out into a song on TV would raise anyoneâ€™s eyebrow or even automatically require being credited. There is actually a fundamentally different cultural attitude about â€œownershipâ€ or art.

Although this is seeing some convergence with Western norms due to pressure from Indian merchants trying to capitalize on their own IP and American Copyright Czars trying to enforce their draconian levels of rent-seeking insanity upon us.

By: monica m

monica m — Thu, 27 May 2010 22:23:09 +0000

grrrr. as a long-time fan of karmacy i was annoyed she didn’t mention it was a karmacy song. the judges seem to have thought it was hers, and she did nothing to correct their perception. blood brothers is one of the most original raps out there imho. it would have been nice if she gave credit where it was due.