Comments on: Raj Thackeray vs. the Russian Bollywood Dancers Mafia http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/18/raj_thackeray_v/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Shauryan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/18/raj_thackeray_v/comment-page-3/#comment-286452 Shauryan Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:52:38 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6123#comment-286452 <p>I do not like it when they choose Western Bollywood Backup Dancers - I don't like it - Infact I hate it. Overall it can just ruin a film for me - It just makes it look less authentic & if these pathetic inferiority complex induced casting directors thinks it makes it look more 'Classy or Sophisticated' By hiring dancers with the pale white skin - They are truly mistaken.</p> <p>If you just even compare the difference of what looks better as compared to traditional Indian Backup Dancers it is obvious to anyone in the right mind.</p> <p>Traditional Indian Backup Dancers:</p> <p>http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a301/keythah/blog/dola-re-dola.jpg</p> <p>Western Dancers:</p> <p>http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/where%20are%20the%20desi%20girls.jpg</p> <p>This sickens me to my gut because it is just so pathetic & self hating. I have noticed also that the darker Indians are the more of an inferiority complex they have. The lighter one's & even more so the light eyed one's like myself from Kashmir & Himachal Pradesh rarely have such a stupid mentality.</p> <p>It's not even like these Western Women they are choosing in their videos are more beautiful. If you look at them - Many of these one's are choosing are ugly. They are simply obsessed with skin color & this shows through the media. It's Idiots like this who give Unattractive People such as Neil Nitin Mukesh or Katrina Kaif (Who in reality no one would give even the time of day if they were Dark Brown Colored) - Some sort of higher pedestal - Just over Skin Pigmentation.</p> <p>It is because of people like this that I often HATE being associated with or being considered Indian.</p> I do not like it when they choose Western Bollywood Backup Dancers – I don’t like it – Infact I hate it. Overall it can just ruin a film for me – It just makes it look less authentic & if these pathetic inferiority complex induced casting directors thinks it makes it look more ‘Classy or Sophisticated’ By hiring dancers with the pale white skin – They are truly mistaken.

If you just even compare the difference of what looks better as compared to traditional Indian Backup Dancers it is obvious to anyone in the right mind.

Traditional Indian Backup Dancers:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a301/keythah/blog/dola-re-dola.jpg

Western Dancers:

http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/where%20are%20the%20desi%20girls.jpg

This sickens me to my gut because it is just so pathetic & self hating. I have noticed also that the darker Indians are the more of an inferiority complex they have. The lighter one’s & even more so the light eyed one’s like myself from Kashmir & Himachal Pradesh rarely have such a stupid mentality.

It’s not even like these Western Women they are choosing in their videos are more beautiful. If you look at them – Many of these one’s are choosing are ugly. They are simply obsessed with skin color & this shows through the media. It’s Idiots like this who give Unattractive People such as Neil Nitin Mukesh or Katrina Kaif (Who in reality no one would give even the time of day if they were Dark Brown Colored) – Some sort of higher pedestal – Just over Skin Pigmentation.

It is because of people like this that I often HATE being associated with or being considered Indian.

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By: Indo-Russia ties and relations. Including history and current affairs. | The EmergingTies Project http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/18/raj_thackeray_v/comment-page-3/#comment-286297 Indo-Russia ties and relations. Including history and current affairs. | The EmergingTies Project Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:59:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6123#comment-286297 <p>[...] But as India becomes more self-confident, independent, and global, the average citizen’s sentiment towards Russia atrophies. Not because of any ill-will, just the unprecedented exposure to other parts of the world. The strongest cultural tie that the nations share nowadays is perhaps cinema. Russians have recently re-found their old love for Bollywood, and love dancing to Hindi tunes. Indians love watching Russians dance. [...]</p> [...] But as India becomes more self-confident, independent, and global, the average citizen’s sentiment towards Russia atrophies. Not because of any ill-will, just the unprecedented exposure to other parts of the world. The strongest cultural tie that the nations share nowadays is perhaps cinema. Russians have recently re-found their old love for Bollywood, and love dancing to Hindi tunes. Indians love watching Russians dance. [...]

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By: rckxx http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/18/raj_thackeray_v/comment-page-3/#comment-278883 rckxx Thu, 07 Oct 2010 11:39:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6123#comment-278883 <p>jo mumbai maharashtra main kama ke khate hai unohne shiv sena , mns & marathi manus ke against bolte samay sochna chahiye ki jo wo bol rahe hai usme bhi kuch sachai hai esliye unke against koi strict karvai nahi hoti agar aaisa hota hai to yaha khun kharaba hone main koi waqt nahi lagega</p> <p>one indian XXXXXXXXXXXXX</p> jo mumbai maharashtra main kama ke khate hai unohne shiv sena , mns & marathi manus ke against bolte samay sochna chahiye ki jo wo bol rahe hai usme bhi kuch sachai hai esliye unke against koi strict karvai nahi hoti agar aaisa hota hai to yaha khun kharaba hone main koi waqt nahi lagega

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By: Ellene http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/18/raj_thackeray_v/comment-page-3/#comment-270344 Ellene Thu, 01 Apr 2010 12:20:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6123#comment-270344 <p>I just love John</p> I just love John

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By: LinZi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/18/raj_thackeray_v/comment-page-3/#comment-270271 LinZi Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:50:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6123#comment-270271 <p>"In American shows, there are plenty of tan and pale people. Whearas, in Indian shows, there are only really light skinned, non-representative Indians (many of whom had lots of help from a makeup artist) and now lots of white dancers. Theree are a few dark people in Indian movies, but they tend to be casted as servants or peasants."</p> <p>There are SOME somewhat darker Bollywood star, but you are right, they put tons of make-up on them. Kajol, for instance, isn't really that light. (If you ever watch Fanaa check out the color of the skin on her hand compared to her face... make-up anyone?) Also Konkona Sensharma is not really that pale. I don't think Rani Mukherji is either... in her first movie they dubbed her voice out.. now I am glad they let her have her own rusty voice... I think it gives her character. Bipasha is also supposed to be darker, but I never really liked her, so I haven't paid attention personally.</p> <p>But overall, I think it is correct to say that Bollywood's image of India is very unrealistic... most actors and actresses are very pale (or made to look so) with colored contacts to make unusual eyes. The guys build up their bodies to (what I think is) gross levels so they look like giant balloons ready to pop. (I also think mainstream Hollywood film are also unrealistic). The white girls in the background usually serve one purpose-- "Item Song" popularity. In general there are stereotypes in India about white women being more sexual, and this plays into it. Also, most of the white women in the films are asked on the street whilst on vacation and think "oh what fun! Part of our vacation adventure." Do they even get paid? Do you think Indians on the street would react with the same attitude if someone approached them with the same offer? Maybe some would, but I bet a whole lot more would be extremely wary or not willing to waste all their time, or dress scantily, or their families would disapprove.</p> <p>There are a few (very few) Indian films which show a foreigner as a "real" person, like Rang de Basanti. Maybe Rock On! (I guess Rob was supposed to be white?). There was another movie recently that came out about an Indian man falling in love with a white woman, but I can't remember the title.</p> <p>Another thing about Bollywood that I think is important to remember is that they DO know what they are doing. The song "Desi Girl" may really be a tongue-in-cheek joke about white background dancers... Om Shanti Om is FULL of jokes like that about Bollywood in general. Dard-e-Disco, mayhaps?</p> “In American shows, there are plenty of tan and pale people. Whearas, in Indian shows, there are only really light skinned, non-representative Indians (many of whom had lots of help from a makeup artist) and now lots of white dancers. Theree are a few dark people in Indian movies, but they tend to be casted as servants or peasants.”

There are SOME somewhat darker Bollywood star, but you are right, they put tons of make-up on them. Kajol, for instance, isn’t really that light. (If you ever watch Fanaa check out the color of the skin on her hand compared to her face… make-up anyone?) Also Konkona Sensharma is not really that pale. I don’t think Rani Mukherji is either… in her first movie they dubbed her voice out.. now I am glad they let her have her own rusty voice… I think it gives her character. Bipasha is also supposed to be darker, but I never really liked her, so I haven’t paid attention personally.

But overall, I think it is correct to say that Bollywood’s image of India is very unrealistic… most actors and actresses are very pale (or made to look so) with colored contacts to make unusual eyes. The guys build up their bodies to (what I think is) gross levels so they look like giant balloons ready to pop. (I also think mainstream Hollywood film are also unrealistic). The white girls in the background usually serve one purpose– “Item Song” popularity. In general there are stereotypes in India about white women being more sexual, and this plays into it. Also, most of the white women in the films are asked on the street whilst on vacation and think “oh what fun! Part of our vacation adventure.” Do they even get paid? Do you think Indians on the street would react with the same attitude if someone approached them with the same offer? Maybe some would, but I bet a whole lot more would be extremely wary or not willing to waste all their time, or dress scantily, or their families would disapprove.

There are a few (very few) Indian films which show a foreigner as a “real” person, like Rang de Basanti. Maybe Rock On! (I guess Rob was supposed to be white?). There was another movie recently that came out about an Indian man falling in love with a white woman, but I can’t remember the title.

Another thing about Bollywood that I think is important to remember is that they DO know what they are doing. The song “Desi Girl” may really be a tongue-in-cheek joke about white background dancers… Om Shanti Om is FULL of jokes like that about Bollywood in general. Dard-e-Disco, mayhaps?

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By: sweatin off the fat http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/18/raj_thackeray_v/comment-page-3/#comment-270270 sweatin off the fat Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:30:07 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6123#comment-270270 <p>"On bikini shots and the demand of the mass audiences for titillation, yes, maybe (the man knows his titillation). But on “better figures,” is he really saying that with a straight face in this day and age? "</p> <p>I can't imagine many fat white Americans who like to vacation in hot sweaty places... besides.. he said "backpackers".. can you imagine fat people with giant backpacks on? Sounds like something that could make them... thinner.</p> “On bikini shots and the demand of the mass audiences for titillation, yes, maybe (the man knows his titillation). But on “better figures,” is he really saying that with a straight face in this day and age? “

I can’t imagine many fat white Americans who like to vacation in hot sweaty places… besides.. he said “backpackers”.. can you imagine fat people with giant backpacks on? Sounds like something that could make them… thinner.

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By: wannabe star http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/18/raj_thackeray_v/comment-page-3/#comment-270269 wannabe star Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:29:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6123#comment-270269 <p>One of the funniest things I ever read on this subject was an article in Salon about 7 yrs. ago, by an an American blond tourist, who was offered bit parts in a couple Indian films. Things is, she was in competition with a native born, non-English speaking, desi GUY. She and he used to exchange sulky, resentful glances when both were dressed up in veils and saris. And no, she didn't look particularly butch and he had a definite five-o-clock shadow. Talk about Hollywood unreality. It must be pure magic over there in Bollyland.</p> One of the funniest things I ever read on this subject was an article in Salon about 7 yrs. ago, by an an American blond tourist, who was offered bit parts in a couple Indian films. Things is, she was in competition with a native born, non-English speaking, desi GUY. She and he used to exchange sulky, resentful glances when both were dressed up in veils and saris. And no, she didn’t look particularly butch and he had a definite five-o-clock shadow. Talk about Hollywood unreality. It must be pure magic over there in Bollyland.

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By: Demondoll http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/18/raj_thackeray_v/comment-page-3/#comment-270247 Demondoll Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:57:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6123#comment-270247 <p>Rohit,</p> <p>LOL! I laughed when I read your comment. Luckily, I am already into filmmaking and do make my own short films. I'm not a big shot producer/director yet though....</p> <p>In my own films, I do give women "smart" roles. I haven't worked with an international cast yet, but I would love to, if I had the chance.</p> Rohit,

LOL! I laughed when I read your comment. Luckily, I am already into filmmaking and do make my own short films. I’m not a big shot producer/director yet though….

In my own films, I do give women “smart” roles. I haven’t worked with an international cast yet, but I would love to, if I had the chance.

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