Comments on: The Homeless Sikhs of Southall http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/10/the_homeless_si/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Prince Cleopatra http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/10/the_homeless_si/comment-page-2/#comment-269825 Prince Cleopatra Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:25:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6121#comment-269825 <p>@Preston:</p> <p>Bro I find you mad sexually attractive let's see more of that body tho I feel like you're holding back when you have no need to.</p> <p>Bro don't tell me to hold back this is all instinct baby. I'm drawn to you. Those hips, those eyes, got me mesmerized.</p> <p>Let's take it to the next level.</p> @Preston:

Bro I find you mad sexually attractive let’s see more of that body tho I feel like you’re holding back when you have no need to.

Bro don’t tell me to hold back this is all instinct baby. I’m drawn to you. Those hips, those eyes, got me mesmerized.

Let’s take it to the next level.

]]> By: A http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/10/the_homeless_si/comment-page-2/#comment-269765 A Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:12:22 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6121#comment-269765 <p>JR, I agree with you. This number seems hight and it is not clear what is the reference i.e 70% of what. Assuming it is 70% of young people, then my question how do they get money for it? I don't beleive it is cheap that 70% young people can afford it.</p> JR, I agree with you. This number seems hight and it is not clear what is the reference i.e 70% of what. Assuming it is 70% of young people, then my question how do they get money for it? I don’t beleive it is cheap that 70% young people can afford it.

]]> By: JR http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/10/the_homeless_si/comment-page-2/#comment-269759 JR Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:37:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6121#comment-269759 <p>Drug problem is not something new to Punjab. Opium (Afeem in Punjabi) use was somewhat widespread in the sense that each village had known afeemchis (opium addicts). However, the number being thrown around, i.e., 70%, does not make much sense. Just because someone on a TV channels says that 70% of youth are addicted, does not make it true.</p> Drug problem is not something new to Punjab. Opium (Afeem in Punjabi) use was somewhat widespread in the sense that each village had known afeemchis (opium addicts). However, the number being thrown around, i.e., 70%, does not make much sense. Just because someone on a TV channels says that 70% of youth are addicted, does not make it true.

]]> By: san http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/10/the_homeless_si/comment-page-1/#comment-269740 san Tue, 16 Mar 2010 03:34:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6121#comment-269740 <p>Last one and I'm out. substitute another stereotype for drunk Punjabi. i'm not trying to be cold to. I do know people who have experienced stuff like this but no way only or especially from.one ethnic group. it may be the numbers.are higher in some contexts.</p> Last one and I’m out. substitute another stereotype for drunk Punjabi. i’m not trying to be cold to. I do know people who have experienced stuff like this but no way only or especially from.one ethnic group. it may be the numbers.are higher in some contexts.

]]> By: san http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/10/the_homeless_si/comment-page-1/#comment-269739 san Tue, 16 Mar 2010 03:11:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6121#comment-269739 <p>You seem to suggesting the way to aid people is to debase the.community and if we are.wretched enough we earn some kind of salvation. to me thats not truth telling.</p> You seem to suggesting the way to aid people is to debase the.community and if we are.wretched enough we earn some kind of salvation. to me thats not truth telling.

]]> By: san http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/10/the_homeless_si/comment-page-1/#comment-269738 san Tue, 16 Mar 2010 03:03:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6121#comment-269738 <p>in my experience the level of substance abuse roughly similar to the general level as is the level of denial. which is not intended to deny but also not to suggest it be taken for granted that substance abuse is the norm, which would be hyperbolic.</p> in my experience the level of substance abuse roughly similar to the general level as is the level of denial. which is not intended to deny but also not to suggest it be taken for granted that substance abuse is the norm, which would be hyperbolic.

]]> By: A http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/10/the_homeless_si/comment-page-1/#comment-269737 A Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:07:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6121#comment-269737 <p>Shallow Thinker,</p> <p>Because there are several media reports, there is good possibility that Substance Abuse problem exists in Punjab. Reported extent of problem seems exaggerated. My reference about 'Amritdhari' sikhs was reponse to your following comment in post 32. "I dont know a single Punjabi family that doesnt have at least 1 full blown alcoholic in their family."</p> <p>I don't drink and most of the sikhs I know in this area (RTP, NC) don't drink. On the flip side we know few South Indians who drink a lot and need control after few drinks.</p> <p>I agree denial does not help and as I mentioned earlier posts, one way or other result will be good if media reports. However, I can see Sikhs becoming defensive about it because it is not unusual in India to make irrational opinions/jokes/statements about sikhs.</p> Shallow Thinker,

Because there are several media reports, there is good possibility that Substance Abuse problem exists in Punjab. Reported extent of problem seems exaggerated. My reference about ‘Amritdhari’ sikhs was reponse to your following comment in post 32. “I dont know a single Punjabi family that doesnt have at least 1 full blown alcoholic in their family.”

I don’t drink and most of the sikhs I know in this area (RTP, NC) don’t drink. On the flip side we know few South Indians who drink a lot and need control after few drinks.

I agree denial does not help and as I mentioned earlier posts, one way or other result will be good if media reports. However, I can see Sikhs becoming defensive about it because it is not unusual in India to make irrational opinions/jokes/statements about sikhs.

]]> By: Wanderer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/10/the_homeless_si/comment-page-1/#comment-269736 Wanderer Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:47:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6121#comment-269736 <p>Re #8 Darth Paul, http://thelangarhall.com/general/drug-abuse-in-amritsar/</p> Re #8 Darth Paul, http://thelangarhall.com/general/drug-abuse-in-amritsar/

]]> By: Wanderer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/10/the_homeless_si/comment-page-1/#comment-269735 Wanderer Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:35:47 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6121#comment-269735 <p>I agree with shallow thinker's last comment...although he should rename himself Deep Thinker</p> I agree with shallow thinker’s last comment…although he should rename himself Deep Thinker

]]> By: ShallowThinker http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/10/the_homeless_si/comment-page-1/#comment-269734 ShallowThinker Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:27:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6121#comment-269734 <blockquote>There are a lot of serious issues within almost every single religious group in India. Just look at their practices and actions in the last 25 years. Can you name one that doesn't? But, to respond to the needs of a group of people, whether it's afghan women, hindu widows, or homeless sikhs, by pointing out the flaws in their collective group, reeks of nothing but bias and small-mindedness. So, Shallow thinker and JT, grow up. I fully expect you to defend yourself and prove that you're not so. But, some of us are capable of reading between the lines.</blockquote> <p>I dont understand what part of me speaking about my personal experience calls for me having to "grow up", but what should I have said? This is a post about Punjabi homeless people and thier issues and I am responding to it. Why should I talk about Afghan women? This is something in my life that I have seen break families apart and I have always wondered why there isnt help for these people? I dont see the help from the community and I dont see the help from places of worship and I dont think it should be this way. Instead 50% of Punjabi songs are about getting drunk and it seems to get more and more celebrated with each passing year.</p> There are a lot of serious issues within almost every single religious group in India. Just look at their practices and actions in the last 25 years. Can you name one that doesn’t? But, to respond to the needs of a group of people, whether it’s afghan women, hindu widows, or homeless sikhs, by pointing out the flaws in their collective group, reeks of nothing but bias and small-mindedness. So, Shallow thinker and JT, grow up. I fully expect you to defend yourself and prove that you’re not so. But, some of us are capable of reading between the lines.

I dont understand what part of me speaking about my personal experience calls for me having to “grow up”, but what should I have said? This is a post about Punjabi homeless people and thier issues and I am responding to it. Why should I talk about Afghan women? This is something in my life that I have seen break families apart and I have always wondered why there isnt help for these people? I dont see the help from the community and I dont see the help from places of worship and I dont think it should be this way. Instead 50% of Punjabi songs are about getting drunk and it seems to get more and more celebrated with each passing year.

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