Comments on: FreeFahad http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/10/freefahad/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Al beruni http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/10/freefahad/comment-page-1/#comment-269623 Al beruni Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:18:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6120#comment-269623 <p>If you want to inflict your ideological beliefs on us (SAMAR magazine and its ultra-lefty "stick to the man" agenda), you are going to get a certain response.</p> <p>From your comments it now appears you believe you are being victimized, wow, thats really stunning.</p> If you want to inflict your ideological beliefs on us (SAMAR magazine and its ultra-lefty “stick to the man” agenda), you are going to get a certain response.

From your comments it now appears you believe you are being victimized, wow, thats really stunning.

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By: phillygrrl http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/10/freefahad/comment-page-1/#comment-269622 phillygrrl Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:17:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6120#comment-269622 <p>Thanks for sharing, Taz. The point is simple, guys. If an American citizen like Fahad can be detained and put into solitary confinement on charges as ridiculous as having a houseguest who stored waterproof socks- what's to prevent any of us from being treated harshly for something equally innocuous? Nothing. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? Why such harsh measures pre-trial? Would Andrew Joseph Stack III be treated the same if he were captured pre-plan crash? Most likely not. This isn't a post debating guilty and innocence. It's a post debating the fundamental rights all American are guaranteed by the constitution. I think it's important that SM continue to spotlight such issues. If twenty years down the road, our kids get pulled over by a cop, I want to know they're being treated EXACTLY the way any other American is - regardless of their color and creed.</p> <p>As Neimoller said: First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist; Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist; Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew; Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me.</p> Thanks for sharing, Taz. The point is simple, guys. If an American citizen like Fahad can be detained and put into solitary confinement on charges as ridiculous as having a houseguest who stored waterproof socks- what’s to prevent any of us from being treated harshly for something equally innocuous? Nothing. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? Why such harsh measures pre-trial? Would Andrew Joseph Stack III be treated the same if he were captured pre-plan crash? Most likely not. This isn’t a post debating guilty and innocence. It’s a post debating the fundamental rights all American are guaranteed by the constitution. I think it’s important that SM continue to spotlight such issues. If twenty years down the road, our kids get pulled over by a cop, I want to know they’re being treated EXACTLY the way any other American is – regardless of their color and creed.

As Neimoller said: First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist; Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist; Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew; Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me.

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By: Manju http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/10/freefahad/comment-page-1/#comment-269620 Manju Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:04:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6120#comment-269620 <blockquote>fahad has not been convicted of anything and is in SOLITARY CONFINEMENT 23 hours a day awaiting trial. justice system? </blockquote> <p>so the big civil rights issue is holding someone in jail while they await trial?</p> fahad has not been convicted of anything and is in SOLITARY CONFINEMENT 23 hours a day awaiting trial. justice system?

so the big civil rights issue is holding someone in jail while they await trial?

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By: Taz http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/10/freefahad/comment-page-1/#comment-269618 Taz Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:59:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6120#comment-269618 <p>Of course, of course you guys couldn't play nice on this post.</p> <p>Welcome to Sepia Mutiny - where the bloggers blog about anything related to the Desi community. ANYthing. I chose to blog about this, I stand by my post, and as a Muslim, desi, and 2nd gen immigrant, I find this to be a really important topic. As an activist and advocate for the Desi community through my career, I think this is an important issue to advocate on.</p> <p>If you don't like it, no one is making you read this blog. You know where I think you should shove it. Go start your own. I'm hitting the road for the next month, and don't have the ability to monitor this comment thread and would hate to make my fellow bloggers monitor it for me. Apologize to the folks that wanted to engage in meaningful dialogue.</p> <p>Peace and Salaam.</p> Of course, of course you guys couldn’t play nice on this post.

Welcome to Sepia Mutiny – where the bloggers blog about anything related to the Desi community. ANYthing. I chose to blog about this, I stand by my post, and as a Muslim, desi, and 2nd gen immigrant, I find this to be a really important topic. As an activist and advocate for the Desi community through my career, I think this is an important issue to advocate on.

If you don’t like it, no one is making you read this blog. You know where I think you should shove it. Go start your own. I’m hitting the road for the next month, and don’t have the ability to monitor this comment thread and would hate to make my fellow bloggers monitor it for me. Apologize to the folks that wanted to engage in meaningful dialogue.

Peace and Salaam.

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By: Pagal_Aadmi_for_d.. http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/10/freefahad/comment-page-1/#comment-269616 Pagal_Aadmi_for_d.. Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:50:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6120#comment-269616 <p>Taz: I would recommend disabling comments on issues relating to Muslims, especially anything to do with terrorism. The comments section on SM degenerate into frontpage magazine within hours. Thanks for the post.</p> Taz: I would recommend disabling comments on issues relating to Muslims, especially anything to do with terrorism. The comments section on SM degenerate into frontpage magazine within hours. Thanks for the post.

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By: anony http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/10/freefahad/comment-page-1/#comment-269614 anony Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:11:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6120#comment-269614 <p>It is sad to see this without adequate attempt to explain both sides of the story. The post sounds like automatically assumes he is not guilty</p> It is sad to see this without adequate attempt to explain both sides of the story. The post sounds like automatically assumes he is not guilty

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By: Shilpa http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/10/freefahad/comment-page-1/#comment-269612 Shilpa Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:57:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6120#comment-269612 <p>Taz, This is no way to build Desi unity. Samar magazine is to Hindus as JihadWatch is to Muslims. Please revise and resubmit. Of course, based on your seeing "Little Mosque on the Prairie" as a "Desi ensemble cast" it's obvious that you feel more sympathy with Nigerians and Lebanese than with Hindus or Sikhs.</p> Taz, This is no way to build Desi unity. Samar magazine is to Hindus as JihadWatch is to Muslims. Please revise and resubmit. Of course, based on your seeing “Little Mosque on the Prairie” as a “Desi ensemble cast” it’s obvious that you feel more sympathy with Nigerians and Lebanese than with Hindus or Sikhs.

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By: Suki Dillon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/10/freefahad/comment-page-1/#comment-269607 Suki Dillon Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:35:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6120#comment-269607 <p><b>I am a turban-wearing Sikh and have faced a great deal of racism since 9/11, which is a part of the backlash and repression the Muslim and Arab communities have been subjected to. When someone calls me “bin Laden” or “terrorist” or tries to pull off my turban, I think about individuals and families who have been detained and deported simply because of their Muslim identities….The struggles the Sikh community faces are inherently linked to the struggles of the Muslim community, and we are working here on the outside to unite our communities to build a stronger movement for social justice. [samarmagazine]</b></p> <p>Is this the same Sunny Singh who when he was younger and was attacked and had his turban ripped off by a group of young black males, he blamed the white supremacy system. I bet he blames the beheading of the 2 sikhs in pakistan by the taliban on american foreign policy.</p> I am a turban-wearing Sikh and have faced a great deal of racism since 9/11, which is a part of the backlash and repression the Muslim and Arab communities have been subjected to. When someone calls me “bin Laden” or “terrorist” or tries to pull off my turban, I think about individuals and families who have been detained and deported simply because of their Muslim identities….The struggles the Sikh community faces are inherently linked to the struggles of the Muslim community, and we are working here on the outside to unite our communities to build a stronger movement for social justice. [samarmagazine]

Is this the same Sunny Singh who when he was younger and was attacked and had his turban ripped off by a group of young black males, he blamed the white supremacy system. I bet he blames the beheading of the 2 sikhs in pakistan by the taliban on american foreign policy.

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By: brooklynwala http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/10/freefahad/comment-page-1/#comment-269606 brooklynwala Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:26:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6120#comment-269606 <p>fahad has not been convicted of anything and is in SOLITARY CONFINEMENT 23 hours a day awaiting trial. justice system? and darth paul: he is being detained in manhattan, new york city, about a 10 minute walk from where i work. the US is far from powerless, he is in a United States federal detention center.</p> fahad has not been convicted of anything and is in SOLITARY CONFINEMENT 23 hours a day awaiting trial. justice system? and darth paul: he is being detained in manhattan, new york city, about a 10 minute walk from where i work. the US is far from powerless, he is in a United States federal detention center.

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By: Al beruni http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/10/freefahad/comment-page-1/#comment-269602 Al beruni Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:00:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6120#comment-269602 <p>More wisdom from SAMAR magazine -</p> <blockquote>Israel's latest attack on Gaza is part of a larger historical pattern of abuses based in hegemony, land theft, punishment and encampment of Palestinians, racist policies, aggression and paranoia and a bogus 'peace process' similar to American treaties with Native Americans. </blockquote> <p>on the Bombay massacre (from marxist radical Biju mathew) - and the captured Pakistani terroris -</p> <blockquote>The foreign hand and its internal partner will be floated without ever naming anything precise. But the country will read it just as it is meant to be read - Pakistan and the Indian Muslim. Everything will rest on the supposed confession of the one gunman who has been captured. A Pakistani from Faridkot, I am told. Why should we believe it? Didn't the same Indian State frame all the supposed accomplices in the Parliament attack case? Didn't the same Indian State claim that the assassins of Chattisinghpura were from across the border until that story fell apart? And more recently, didn't the same Indian State finally agree that all the accused in the Mecca Masjid bombings were actually innocent? And even if Mr. Assassin supposedly from Faridkot did say what he did say - why should we believe him? Why is it so difficult to believe that he has his lines ready and scripted? If he was willing to die for whatever cause he murdered for, then can he not lie? Oh the lie detector test - that completely discredited science that every militarized State trots out. And the media love the lie detector test because it is the best scientific garb you can give to conjecture. </blockquote> <p>Other articles in the site include discussion how hindu extremists might have been behind the killing of Hemant Karkare, How india-israel-USA is bad, bad and so on.</p> <p>Wow, Taz, you have outdone yourself...</p> More wisdom from SAMAR magazine -

Israel’s latest attack on Gaza is part of a larger historical pattern of abuses based in hegemony, land theft, punishment and encampment of Palestinians, racist policies, aggression and paranoia and a bogus ‘peace process’ similar to American treaties with Native Americans.

on the Bombay massacre (from marxist radical Biju mathew) – and the captured Pakistani terroris -

The foreign hand and its internal partner will be floated without ever naming anything precise. But the country will read it just as it is meant to be read – Pakistan and the Indian Muslim. Everything will rest on the supposed confession of the one gunman who has been captured. A Pakistani from Faridkot, I am told. Why should we believe it? Didn’t the same Indian State frame all the supposed accomplices in the Parliament attack case? Didn’t the same Indian State claim that the assassins of Chattisinghpura were from across the border until that story fell apart? And more recently, didn’t the same Indian State finally agree that all the accused in the Mecca Masjid bombings were actually innocent? And even if Mr. Assassin supposedly from Faridkot did say what he did say – why should we believe him? Why is it so difficult to believe that he has his lines ready and scripted? If he was willing to die for whatever cause he murdered for, then can he not lie? Oh the lie detector test – that completely discredited science that every militarized State trots out. And the media love the lie detector test because it is the best scientific garb you can give to conjecture.

Other articles in the site include discussion how hindu extremists might have been behind the killing of Hemant Karkare, How india-israel-USA is bad, bad and so on.

Wow, Taz, you have outdone yourself…

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