Comments on: Always The Sidekick http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/08/always_the_side/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: ilmun http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/08/always_the_side/comment-page-2/#comment-281250 ilmun Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:06:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6119#comment-281250 <p>Raj koothrappali from the Big Bang Theory is not a sidekick character.... hes one of the 5 main characters ..shelodon,leonard,penny,howard and him</p> Raj koothrappali from the Big Bang Theory is not a sidekick character…. hes one of the 5 main characters ..shelodon,leonard,penny,howard and him

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By: umair http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/08/always_the_side/comment-page-2/#comment-269975 umair Tue, 23 Mar 2010 05:04:58 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6119#comment-269975 <p>Don't forget behind the camera Desi's have Jay Chandrasekhar, Mira Nair and M. Night Shyamalan</p> Don’t forget behind the camera Desi’s have Jay Chandrasekhar, Mira Nair and M. Night Shyamalan

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By: Mustafa http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/08/always_the_side/comment-page-2/#comment-269919 Mustafa Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:39:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6119#comment-269919 <p>IBuyFairandLovely,</p> <p>Afghanistan and the Northwestern Frontier in Pakistan are not Desi country, but we are South Asians. We just speak Farsi and Pashto versus Urdu. Plus, few Afghans need to use skin cream lightners.</p> IBuyFairandLovely,

Afghanistan and the Northwestern Frontier in Pakistan are not Desi country, but we are South Asians. We just speak Farsi and Pashto versus Urdu. Plus, few Afghans need to use skin cream lightners.

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By: jacob http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/08/always_the_side/comment-page-2/#comment-269918 jacob Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:26:07 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6119#comment-269918 <p>There was an Indian character on Head of the Class back in the mid-80's. His character's name was Arvind.</p> <p>BTW great reference to Last precinct!!</p> There was an Indian character on Head of the Class back in the mid-80′s. His character’s name was Arvind.

BTW great reference to Last precinct!!

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By: IBuyFairAndLovely http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/08/always_the_side/comment-page-2/#comment-269855 IBuyFairAndLovely Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:22:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6119#comment-269855 <h2>64: mezghan wrote: Do Afghans qualify as desi? If so, Mezhgan Hussainy who is in the news for dating Simon Cowell after being a make-up woman on American Idol is supposed to have had bit roles in Sunset Beach and The Bold and the Beautiful.</h2> <p>No. Anyone who spells Hussain with a "y" does not qualify as desi. Sorry.</p> 64: mezghan wrote: Do Afghans qualify as desi? If so, Mezhgan Hussainy who is in the news for dating Simon Cowell after being a make-up woman on American Idol is supposed to have had bit roles in Sunset Beach and The Bold and the Beautiful.

No. Anyone who spells Hussain with a “y” does not qualify as desi. Sorry.

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By: Anonymous http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/08/always_the_side/comment-page-2/#comment-269844 Anonymous Sat, 20 Mar 2010 05:53:46 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6119#comment-269844 <p>Can we stop bickering and just agree on how much we all hate white people? That's where this thread is eventually headed anyway. (joke)</p> Can we stop bickering and just agree on how much we all hate white people? That’s where this thread is eventually headed anyway. (joke)

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By: lula http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/08/always_the_side/comment-page-2/#comment-269762 lula Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:34:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6119#comment-269762 <p>"Don't believe the hype delurker most Brazilians are black or mixed with black."</p> <p>According to most country and regional profiles, studies and stats I've encountered, Blacks are actually not a huge percentage of the population of Brazil as a whole, not as much as Native Americans; but that may mean "full-blooded" black Africans. There were huge areas of Brazil to which slaves were never taken, nor ever went on their own once they were free. Part of Brazil is dry, almost desert, something few peole visualize. The South of Brazil is mostly European and native, the Euros being especially German and Italian, the result of immense immigration (distinct from colonizing, they hasten to emphasize) prior to WWII. Oh--and Japanese. Lot's of Japanese in South America. And you know what? The Germans tend to look German, the Italians tend to look like various Italian types, and the Japanese look like Japanese. Naturally some complex and startling mixtures are more common in Brazil than many other places you could name, but I came to the conclusion that the "melting pot" is a particular reality in the urban coastal areas, especially Rio. I don't know what the percentages are, but you can always get another opinion. Here's one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Brazil; or maybe get a few Brazilians to weigh in.</p> <p>hmm, how did a tv show discussion lead to this...oh, well.</p> “Don’t believe the hype delurker most Brazilians are black or mixed with black.”

According to most country and regional profiles, studies and stats I’ve encountered, Blacks are actually not a huge percentage of the population of Brazil as a whole, not as much as Native Americans; but that may mean “full-blooded” black Africans. There were huge areas of Brazil to which slaves were never taken, nor ever went on their own once they were free. Part of Brazil is dry, almost desert, something few peole visualize. The South of Brazil is mostly European and native, the Euros being especially German and Italian, the result of immense immigration (distinct from colonizing, they hasten to emphasize) prior to WWII. Oh–and Japanese. Lot’s of Japanese in South America. And you know what? The Germans tend to look German, the Italians tend to look like various Italian types, and the Japanese look like Japanese. Naturally some complex and startling mixtures are more common in Brazil than many other places you could name, but I came to the conclusion that the “melting pot” is a particular reality in the urban coastal areas, especially Rio. I don’t know what the percentages are, but you can always get another opinion. Here’s one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Brazil; or maybe get a few Brazilians to weigh in.

hmm, how did a tv show discussion lead to this…oh, well.

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By: LinZi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/08/always_the_side/comment-page-2/#comment-269722 LinZi Mon, 15 Mar 2010 03:43:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6119#comment-269722 <p>Brazil does not use the same cultural definitions as Americans for race, so you can't really say what people "are" using American terminology. American culture tends to subscribe to the "one drop" ideology-- if you have one drop of minority (especially African) blood, then you are that race, not "white" (even if you look white). That is why we focus on President Obama being the first African-American president. In reality, he is half white and half black-- yet most Americans consider him black. If he goes to another place, such as Africa, people might not define his race in the same way. This is a socially constructed labeling system-- it is not universal.</p> <p>In Brazil a large population is of mixed ancestry (white, indigenous, african), and many people don't identify themselves as "white" or "black". Due to the large population of mixed ancestry, there is a lot of variation, within families even, so people often do not define themselves as one or the other-- this could strangly put brothers or sisters in different categories. I watched a really interested documentary on Brazil-- Brazil decided to make affirmative action for public colleges in Brazil and used the American model-- saying affirmative action was for the "black" students. This created a controversy, because many people did not know who was "black" or not. People had to redefine their idea of themselves to decide whether or not to apply for affirmative action. They had to create a commitee to look at pictures of students and decide if they were "black" and eligible, or not. In one case, one identical twin was approved and the other denied.</p> <p>So anyways, it is erroneous to artificially put the American racial labeling system on another culture.</p> Brazil does not use the same cultural definitions as Americans for race, so you can’t really say what people “are” using American terminology. American culture tends to subscribe to the “one drop” ideology– if you have one drop of minority (especially African) blood, then you are that race, not “white” (even if you look white). That is why we focus on President Obama being the first African-American president. In reality, he is half white and half black– yet most Americans consider him black. If he goes to another place, such as Africa, people might not define his race in the same way. This is a socially constructed labeling system– it is not universal.

In Brazil a large population is of mixed ancestry (white, indigenous, african), and many people don’t identify themselves as “white” or “black”. Due to the large population of mixed ancestry, there is a lot of variation, within families even, so people often do not define themselves as one or the other– this could strangly put brothers or sisters in different categories. I watched a really interested documentary on Brazil– Brazil decided to make affirmative action for public colleges in Brazil and used the American model– saying affirmative action was for the “black” students. This created a controversy, because many people did not know who was “black” or not. People had to redefine their idea of themselves to decide whether or not to apply for affirmative action. They had to create a commitee to look at pictures of students and decide if they were “black” and eligible, or not. In one case, one identical twin was approved and the other denied.

So anyways, it is erroneous to artificially put the American racial labeling system on another culture.

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By: Doug http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/08/always_the_side/comment-page-2/#comment-269721 Doug Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:33:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6119#comment-269721 <p>Don't believe the hype delurker most Brazilians are black or mixed with black.</p> Don’t believe the hype delurker most Brazilians are black or mixed with black.

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By: delurker http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/03/08/always_the_side/comment-page-2/#comment-269714 delurker Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:41:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6119#comment-269714 <p><b>I think 70% of brazilians are black (according to wikipedia)</b></p> <p>I just checked wiki. They cite 2008 census figures. 48% are white. 43.8% are mixed raced or "brown." And only 6.8% is black.</p> <p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil</p> I think 70% of brazilians are black (according to wikipedia)

I just checked wiki. They cite 2008 census figures. 48% are white. 43.8% are mixed raced or “brown.” And only 6.8% is black.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil

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