Comments on: No Google suggestions for what I think you are thinking http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/01/07/no_google_sugge/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: power http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/01/07/no_google_sugge/comment-page-2/#comment-267133 power Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:26:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6070#comment-267133 <blockquote>what is with using the term "Whitey"? most of the world's christians aren't even white.</blockquote> <p>The white Christians are, at this point of history, rich. If they choose, they can force their views on others, both by soft power and by military power.</p> what is with using the term “Whitey”? most of the world’s christians aren’t even white.

The white Christians are, at this point of history, rich. If they choose, they can force their views on others, both by soft power and by military power.

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By: Sameer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/01/07/no_google_sugge/comment-page-2/#comment-267132 Sameer Sat, 09 Jan 2010 16:53:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6070#comment-267132 <p>Agree with ittef above, I tried the same phrases and they all produce the standard suggestion list. It is probably a quirk in their system, not an instance of censorship.</p> Agree with ittef above, I tried the same phrases and they all produce the standard suggestion list. It is probably a quirk in their system, not an instance of censorship.

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By: Abhi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/01/07/no_google_sugge/comment-page-2/#comment-267130 Abhi Sat, 09 Jan 2010 16:30:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6070#comment-267130 <p>This is not a thread for debating religion. All further comments along those lines will be deleted. Thanks.</p> This is not a thread for debating religion. All further comments along those lines will be deleted. Thanks.

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By: Sameer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/01/07/no_google_sugge/comment-page-2/#comment-267126 Sameer Sat, 09 Jan 2010 14:26:58 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6070#comment-267126 <p>Interesting...the rabbi attributes the Christian idea of God and a rebellious angel, this dualism, to be from Zoarastrianism. Apparently it goes against the Jewish notion of monotheism to have something like the Christian devil who rebels against God and has a rival kingdom. I begin to wonder if Jews look at Gentiles in the later two Abrahamic faiths and think "Oy vey!":</p> <p>"...In Christian theology God never created evil; He is only the author of righteousness and perfection, as you maintained in your question. Therefore, God could never create something as sinister as the devil himself. Rather, Satan's unyielding wickedness is the result of his own spiritual rebellion.</p> <p><b>Although this well-known Christian doctrine has much in common with the pagan Zoroastrian Persian dualism out of which it was born, it is completely alien to the teachings of the Jewish faith and the words of the Jewish scriptures. </b> In fact, the Christian teaching that Satan was originally intended by God to be a good angel but, in an act of outright defiance, ceased to function as God had intended him to, suggests that God created something imperfect or defective.</p> <p><b>For the Jewish faith, Satan's purpose in seducing man away from God poses no problem because Satan is only an agent of God. As a servant of the Almighty, Satan faithfully carries out the divine will of his Creator as he does in all his tasks.</b></p> <p>Satan is one of the many angels mentioned in the Bible. It is worth noting that the Hebrew word for angel is malach, meaning "messenger." The same is true for the English word angel, derived from the Greek word angelos, which also means "messenger." Throughout the Bible, an angel is a messenger of God who carries out the divine will of the Almighty. <b>There is not one example in the Jewish scriptures where any angel, Satan included, opposes God's will</b>...." <a href="http://www.outreachjudaism.org/satan.html">http://www.outreachjudaism.org/satan.html</a></p> Interesting…the rabbi attributes the Christian idea of God and a rebellious angel, this dualism, to be from Zoarastrianism. Apparently it goes against the Jewish notion of monotheism to have something like the Christian devil who rebels against God and has a rival kingdom. I begin to wonder if Jews look at Gentiles in the later two Abrahamic faiths and think “Oy vey!”:

“…In Christian theology God never created evil; He is only the author of righteousness and perfection, as you maintained in your question. Therefore, God could never create something as sinister as the devil himself. Rather, Satan’s unyielding wickedness is the result of his own spiritual rebellion.

Although this well-known Christian doctrine has much in common with the pagan Zoroastrian Persian dualism out of which it was born, it is completely alien to the teachings of the Jewish faith and the words of the Jewish scriptures. In fact, the Christian teaching that Satan was originally intended by God to be a good angel but, in an act of outright defiance, ceased to function as God had intended him to, suggests that God created something imperfect or defective.

For the Jewish faith, Satan’s purpose in seducing man away from God poses no problem because Satan is only an agent of God. As a servant of the Almighty, Satan faithfully carries out the divine will of his Creator as he does in all his tasks.

Satan is one of the many angels mentioned in the Bible. It is worth noting that the Hebrew word for angel is malach, meaning “messenger.” The same is true for the English word angel, derived from the Greek word angelos, which also means “messenger.” Throughout the Bible, an angel is a messenger of God who carries out the divine will of the Almighty. There is not one example in the Jewish scriptures where any angel, Satan included, opposes God’s will….” http://www.outreachjudaism.org/satan.html

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By: ittef http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/01/07/no_google_sugge/comment-page-2/#comment-267123 ittef Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:49:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6070#comment-267123 <p>It looks very likely to be a software bug/exception.</p> <p>Try typing Islam in/at/on etc - they all generate suggestions, "Islam a" generates a lot of negative suggestions. Similarly, "Muslim is" generates a lot of negative suggestions. The problem is probably due to the Is at the beginning of the word 'Islam'.</p> It looks very likely to be a software bug/exception.

Try typing Islam in/at/on etc – they all generate suggestions, “Islam a” generates a lot of negative suggestions. Similarly, “Muslim is” generates a lot of negative suggestions. The problem is probably due to the Is at the beginning of the word ‘Islam’.

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By: razib http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/01/07/no_google_sugge/comment-page-2/#comment-267121 razib Sat, 09 Jan 2010 02:30:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6070#comment-267121 <p>evangelical 36% mainline protestant 12% historically black church 34% agree with "My religion is the one, true faith leading to eternal life"</p> <p>catholics - 16% mormons - 57% orthodox - 20% jehovah's witness - 80% jews - 5% muslims - 33% buddhists - 5% hindus - 5%</p> <p>http://religions.pewforum.org/comparisons data for USA</p> evangelical 36% mainline protestant 12% historically black church 34% agree with “My religion is the one, true faith leading to eternal life”

catholics – 16% mormons – 57% orthodox – 20% jehovah’s witness – 80% jews – 5% muslims – 33% buddhists – 5% hindus – 5%

http://religions.pewforum.org/comparisons data for USA

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By: razib http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/01/07/no_google_sugge/comment-page-2/#comment-267119 razib Sat, 09 Jan 2010 02:12:23 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6070#comment-267119 <p>sameer, there are streams within islam and christianity which have come to the same positions as judaism. more so in christianity from what i know. see the presiding bishop of the episcopal church: http://geoconger.wordpress.com/2009/04/17/presiding-bishop-jesus-is-not-the-only-way-to-god-cen-41709-p-7/</p> sameer, there are streams within islam and christianity which have come to the same positions as judaism. more so in christianity from what i know. see the presiding bishop of the episcopal church: http://geoconger.wordpress.com/2009/04/17/presiding-bishop-jesus-is-not-the-only-way-to-god-cen-41709-p-7/

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By: Sameer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/01/07/no_google_sugge/comment-page-2/#comment-267118 Sameer Sat, 09 Jan 2010 02:03:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6070#comment-267118 <p>Huh. There is no eternal hell in Judaism, plus it seems people who have died can be placed in the body of a child soon to be born. More than one human life to be lived...</p> <p>"...Judaism has no eternal hell. That is a Christian invention, to the best of my knowledge. "The judgment of the wicked in purgatory is twelve months," says the Talmud (Sabbath 33b). Nevertheless, there are exceptions where one might have to go for a little longer.</p> <p>Sometimes, a soul that has already been here on earth is returned to earth and placed into the body of a child soon to be born. This happens for several reasons. The primary reason is as follows: A person has a job to do on earth. If that job is not done, the soul might have to come down to try again....</p> <p>...If a person does not accomplish what he has been sent down on earth to accomplish in his first lifetime, he might be sent down to try again. And again. And again. (I do not know if there is a limit.)</p> <p>There are numerous other things that can bring someone down again. One example (of many) is someone who has died without paying back a loan or something he stole. He is sent down and given the opportunity somehow to do something for the person he owes the debt to.</p> <p>And sometimes a completely righteous person with no sins is sent down again to be a guide and teacher for others who need him or her...." <a href="http://www.beingjewish.com/soul/soul.html">http://www.beingjewish.com/soul/soul.html</a></p> <p>It seems Judaism is more compatible with religions like Hinduism and Buddhism.</p> Huh. There is no eternal hell in Judaism, plus it seems people who have died can be placed in the body of a child soon to be born. More than one human life to be lived…

“…Judaism has no eternal hell. That is a Christian invention, to the best of my knowledge. “The judgment of the wicked in purgatory is twelve months,” says the Talmud (Sabbath 33b). Nevertheless, there are exceptions where one might have to go for a little longer.

Sometimes, a soul that has already been here on earth is returned to earth and placed into the body of a child soon to be born. This happens for several reasons. The primary reason is as follows: A person has a job to do on earth. If that job is not done, the soul might have to come down to try again….

…If a person does not accomplish what he has been sent down on earth to accomplish in his first lifetime, he might be sent down to try again. And again. And again. (I do not know if there is a limit.)

There are numerous other things that can bring someone down again. One example (of many) is someone who has died without paying back a loan or something he stole. He is sent down and given the opportunity somehow to do something for the person he owes the debt to.

And sometimes a completely righteous person with no sins is sent down again to be a guide and teacher for others who need him or her….” http://www.beingjewish.com/soul/soul.html

It seems Judaism is more compatible with religions like Hinduism and Buddhism.

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By: Sameer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/01/07/no_google_sugge/comment-page-2/#comment-267116 Sameer Sat, 09 Jan 2010 01:32:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6070#comment-267116 <p>Judaism's view of Satan is very different from the Christian view and I think I like their version much better: <a href="http://www.beingjewish.com/basics/satan.html">http://www.beingjewish.com/basics/satan.html</a></p> <p>"The Christians don't understand how an angel of G-d can try to seduce people to disobey G-d, so they came to the unsupported conclusion that Satan must have rebelled against G-d. This is completely contrary to everything Judaism believes. We reject that interpretation entirely..... ...The Hebrew word "Satan" means "Hinderer." To hinder someone means to hold him back, to try to prevent him from doing something. G-d created the Hinderer to give us work to do in this world (see my article Why did G-d Create the World?). Satan is here to make things difficult for us, so we can overcome our evil temptations, and PASS the test. That is the purpose of Satan. Satan is an angel whose purpose has been determined by G-d. Temptation is there to try and deter us. It gives us the ability to do the wrong thing. More importantly, it gives us the ability to look at evil and refuse to do it. By presenting us with the opportunity to do evil, it gives us the ability to choose between good and evil. The ability to choose between good and evil is what gives us free will. (See my article On the Nature of Free Will).... ...The truth is that Satan has a job to do, just like every other angel. And angels have no free will. They do as Hashem commands them...</p> Judaism’s view of Satan is very different from the Christian view and I think I like their version much better: http://www.beingjewish.com/basics/satan.html

“The Christians don’t understand how an angel of G-d can try to seduce people to disobey G-d, so they came to the unsupported conclusion that Satan must have rebelled against G-d. This is completely contrary to everything Judaism believes. We reject that interpretation entirely….. …The Hebrew word “Satan” means “Hinderer.” To hinder someone means to hold him back, to try to prevent him from doing something. G-d created the Hinderer to give us work to do in this world (see my article Why did G-d Create the World?). Satan is here to make things difficult for us, so we can overcome our evil temptations, and PASS the test. That is the purpose of Satan. Satan is an angel whose purpose has been determined by G-d. Temptation is there to try and deter us. It gives us the ability to do the wrong thing. More importantly, it gives us the ability to look at evil and refuse to do it. By presenting us with the opportunity to do evil, it gives us the ability to choose between good and evil. The ability to choose between good and evil is what gives us free will. (See my article On the Nature of Free Will)…. …The truth is that Satan has a job to do, just like every other angel. And angels have no free will. They do as Hashem commands them…

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By: Sameer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2010/01/07/no_google_sugge/comment-page-2/#comment-267115 Sameer Sat, 09 Jan 2010 01:32:01 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6070#comment-267115 <p>Judaism's view of Satan is very different from the Christian view and I think I like their version much better: <a href="http://www.beingjewish.com/basics/satan.html">http://www.beingjewish.com/basics/satan.html</a></p> <p>"The Christians don't understand how an angel of G-d can try to seduce people to disobey G-d, so they came to the unsupported conclusion that Satan must have rebelled against G-d. This is completely contrary to everything Judaism believes. We reject that interpretation entirely..... ...The Hebrew word "Satan" means "Hinderer." To hinder someone means to hold him back, to try to prevent him from doing something. G-d created the Hinderer to give us work to do in this world (see my article Why did G-d Create the World?). Satan is here to make things difficult for us, so we can overcome our evil temptations, and PASS the test. That is the purpose of Satan. Satan is an angel whose purpose has been determined by G-d. Temptation is there to try and deter us. It gives us the ability to do the wrong thing. More importantly, it gives us the ability to look at evil and refuse to do it. By presenting us with the opportunity to do evil, it gives us the ability to choose between good and evil. The ability to choose between good and evil is what gives us free will. (See my article On the Nature of Free Will).... ...The truth is that Satan has a job to do, just like every other angel. And angels have no free will. They do as Hashem commands them...</p> <p>Also this link: <a href="http://www.outreachjudaism.org/satan.html">http://www.outreachjudaism.org/satan.html</a></p> Judaism’s view of Satan is very different from the Christian view and I think I like their version much better: http://www.beingjewish.com/basics/satan.html

“The Christians don’t understand how an angel of G-d can try to seduce people to disobey G-d, so they came to the unsupported conclusion that Satan must have rebelled against G-d. This is completely contrary to everything Judaism believes. We reject that interpretation entirely….. …The Hebrew word “Satan” means “Hinderer.” To hinder someone means to hold him back, to try to prevent him from doing something. G-d created the Hinderer to give us work to do in this world (see my article Why did G-d Create the World?). Satan is here to make things difficult for us, so we can overcome our evil temptations, and PASS the test. That is the purpose of Satan. Satan is an angel whose purpose has been determined by G-d. Temptation is there to try and deter us. It gives us the ability to do the wrong thing. More importantly, it gives us the ability to look at evil and refuse to do it. By presenting us with the opportunity to do evil, it gives us the ability to choose between good and evil. The ability to choose between good and evil is what gives us free will. (See my article On the Nature of Free Will)…. …The truth is that Satan has a job to do, just like every other angel. And angels have no free will. They do as Hashem commands them…

Also this link: http://www.outreachjudaism.org/satan.html

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