Comments on: “The big river they have there that sounds like a disease”: Glenn Beck on India http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/12/10/the_big_river_t/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Dilip http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/12/10/the_big_river_t/comment-page-3/#comment-266305 Dilip Mon, 28 Dec 2009 02:52:57 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6046#comment-266305 <blockquote>Dilip, here is a list of some people who would be able to answer your question authoritatively. </blockquote> <p>Lupus you are such an irrational excuse-maker. It is people just like you who are responsible for India's intractable backwardness. A picture of flush commodes for sale in India "authoritatively" refutes Beck? Lol</p> <p>Here is the ugly reality about the sanitation facilities, or lack thereof, in India. Half of indian homes do not even have the usual hole in the ground that passes for a toilet in India. One third of Delhiites defecate in the open! Probably no other country approaches the miserable state of India's sanitation and hygiene conditions:</p> <p><a href="http://www.deccanchronicle.com/big-story/india-stinking-881"><a href="http://www.deccanchronicle.com/big-story/india-stinking-881">http://www.deccanchronicle.com/big-story/india-stinking-881</a></a></p> <p><b>India stinking! </b></p> <p>December 20th, 2009 By Rashme Sehgal</p> <p>When Queen Elizabeth II visited Delhi twelve years, she was so “disgusted” with “dirty Delhi” that she complained to the then Prime Minister, Mr Inder Kumar Gujral, at a state banquet that India’s capital was one of the dirtiest cities she had visited. Asked to explain what she had meant by “dirty”, a senior official from the British High Commission responded by explaining that the Queen was referring to “people easing themselves in public.” An upset Mr Gujral, along with the then President K.R. Narayanan, were photographed the following morning, brooms in their hands, cleaning a street outside Rashtrapati Bhawan. The gesture amounted to sheer tokenism. Little has changed since then, or why would the environment minister, Mr Jairam Ramesh, have lashed out with his comment on India deserving a Nobel prize for filth?</p> <p><b>A survey across eight nations had Indian homes being ranked amongst the dirtiest in the world. Also, 50 per cent of Indian homes do not have toilets and people continue to defecate in the open, according to a United Nations survey.</b></p> <p>As a result of the rising filth, 80 per cent of urban waste in India ends up in the country’s rivers, and unchecked urban growth across the country combined with poor government oversight means the problem is only getting worse. India’s holiest rivers, the Ganga and the Yamuna, are dying due to unchecked pollution.</p> Dilip, here is a list of some people who would be able to answer your question authoritatively.

Lupus you are such an irrational excuse-maker. It is people just like you who are responsible for India’s intractable backwardness. A picture of flush commodes for sale in India “authoritatively” refutes Beck? Lol

Here is the ugly reality about the sanitation facilities, or lack thereof, in India. Half of indian homes do not even have the usual hole in the ground that passes for a toilet in India. One third of Delhiites defecate in the open! Probably no other country approaches the miserable state of India’s sanitation and hygiene conditions:

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/big-story/india-stinking-881

India stinking!

December 20th, 2009 By Rashme Sehgal

When Queen Elizabeth II visited Delhi twelve years, she was so “disgusted” with “dirty Delhi” that she complained to the then Prime Minister, Mr Inder Kumar Gujral, at a state banquet that India’s capital was one of the dirtiest cities she had visited. Asked to explain what she had meant by “dirty”, a senior official from the British High Commission responded by explaining that the Queen was referring to “people easing themselves in public.” An upset Mr Gujral, along with the then President K.R. Narayanan, were photographed the following morning, brooms in their hands, cleaning a street outside Rashtrapati Bhawan. The gesture amounted to sheer tokenism. Little has changed since then, or why would the environment minister, Mr Jairam Ramesh, have lashed out with his comment on India deserving a Nobel prize for filth?

A survey across eight nations had Indian homes being ranked amongst the dirtiest in the world. Also, 50 per cent of Indian homes do not have toilets and people continue to defecate in the open, according to a United Nations survey.

As a result of the rising filth, 80 per cent of urban waste in India ends up in the country’s rivers, and unchecked urban growth across the country combined with poor government oversight means the problem is only getting worse. India’s holiest rivers, the Ganga and the Yamuna, are dying due to unchecked pollution.

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By: nasha http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/12/10/the_big_river_t/comment-page-3/#comment-266007 nasha Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:02:46 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6046#comment-266007 <blockquote>Sumon Basu on December 15, 2009 12:52 AM · Direct link</blockquote> <p>The Indian Education System seems to have done well by your standards. Not surprised.</p> <p>Ad hominem attacks against Beck is not going to make him any poorer. Just as a note.</p> Sumon Basu on December 15, 2009 12:52 AM · Direct link

The Indian Education System seems to have done well by your standards. Not surprised.

Ad hominem attacks against Beck is not going to make him any poorer. Just as a note.

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By: Parul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/12/10/the_big_river_t/comment-page-3/#comment-265812 Parul Fri, 18 Dec 2009 04:51:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6046#comment-265812 <p>Oh my.....is Glenn Beck even worth taking seriously/being offended at? If you look at his previous statements, the man is a joke in general.</p> Oh my…..is Glenn Beck even worth taking seriously/being offended at? If you look at his previous statements, the man is a joke in general.

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By: sunzari http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/12/10/the_big_river_t/comment-page-3/#comment-265794 sunzari Fri, 18 Dec 2009 00:56:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6046#comment-265794 <p>Don't have to watch this vid to know that Beck is an effing troll.</p> Don’t have to watch this vid to know that Beck is an effing troll.

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By: vpatel http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/12/10/the_big_river_t/comment-page-3/#comment-265783 vpatel Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:42:57 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6046#comment-265783 <p>I hope when Glenn Beck is in hospital doesn not get treated by an Indian or for sake Asian doctor trained in India. I didn;t feel idiot beck worthy of a comment but let me just say this an average indian or asian doctor will have more IQ than ignorant beck's whole family.</p> I hope when Glenn Beck is in hospital doesn not get treated by an Indian or for sake Asian doctor trained in India. I didn;t feel idiot beck worthy of a comment but let me just say this an average indian or asian doctor will have more IQ than ignorant beck’s whole family.

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By: Varun Shekhar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/12/10/the_big_river_t/comment-page-3/#comment-265739 Varun Shekhar Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:29:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6046#comment-265739 <p>"the Amrikan left, which "likes' the "Islamists" because they "hate" "America" wind up allied against the "Hindus" because they don't like the Islamists."</p> <p>That's a very shallow and crude 'left', that merely dislikes people or groups because of their view of America. The real "left' supports freedom, justice and democracy for all people, regardless of religion or current geo-political circumstances. It's also crude, ignorant and shallow( that is, if it isn't motivated and conniving) to project the Israel-Palestinian issue on to India, to score a point about Hindus and Moslems. India is a massive victim of Pakistani instigated terror. Period. You don't have to be Left or Right to see that, or to condemn it. Incidentally, the former presidential candidate John Kerry, a left-liberal, has frankly stated that India is the biggest victim of terror in the world, among all the democracies.</p> “the Amrikan left, which “likes’ the “Islamists” because they “hate” “America” wind up allied against the “Hindus” because they don’t like the Islamists.”

That’s a very shallow and crude ‘left’, that merely dislikes people or groups because of their view of America. The real “left’ supports freedom, justice and democracy for all people, regardless of religion or current geo-political circumstances. It’s also crude, ignorant and shallow( that is, if it isn’t motivated and conniving) to project the Israel-Palestinian issue on to India, to score a point about Hindus and Moslems. India is a massive victim of Pakistani instigated terror. Period. You don’t have to be Left or Right to see that, or to condemn it. Incidentally, the former presidential candidate John Kerry, a left-liberal, has frankly stated that India is the biggest victim of terror in the world, among all the democracies.

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By: Varun Shekhar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/12/10/the_big_river_t/comment-page-3/#comment-265738 Varun Shekhar Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:08:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6046#comment-265738 <p>Though this guy is not being politically correct, it is quite hasty to label him racist. He would very likely have made the same type of remark if the country in question were white. It's more an expression of the superiority/preference of the American lifestyle over a third world country. In other words, if India were a 'white' country, but very poor and offering cheaper medical treatment, he would say more or less the same things.</p> Though this guy is not being politically correct, it is quite hasty to label him racist. He would very likely have made the same type of remark if the country in question were white. It’s more an expression of the superiority/preference of the American lifestyle over a third world country. In other words, if India were a ‘white’ country, but very poor and offering cheaper medical treatment, he would say more or less the same things.

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By: Paisa Vasool http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/12/10/the_big_river_t/comment-page-3/#comment-265727 Paisa Vasool Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:48:32 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6046#comment-265727 <p>"And also, in our research that it took us, oh about 40 seconds, we figured out that some of that money here in America winds up in the pocket of a skilled doctor that helps off-set the 20 years of schooling that he endured and the loans he took out."</p> <p>Didn't Micheal Moore cover this in his movie SICKO? Doctors in UK are paid well but they are happy with just one house and a car. In the US doctors want a house, a Florida condo, 2 or 3 sports cars and a yacht. That's why they need to get paid so much. Not because of student loans.</p> “And also, in our research that it took us, oh about 40 seconds, we figured out that some of that money here in America winds up in the pocket of a skilled doctor that helps off-set the 20 years of schooling that he endured and the loans he took out.”

Didn’t Micheal Moore cover this in his movie SICKO? Doctors in UK are paid well but they are happy with just one house and a car. In the US doctors want a house, a Florida condo, 2 or 3 sports cars and a yacht. That’s why they need to get paid so much. Not because of student loans.

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By: Masshole http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/12/10/the_big_river_t/comment-page-3/#comment-265724 Masshole Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:06:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6046#comment-265724 <p>"And also, in our research that it took us, oh about 40 seconds, we figured out that some of that money here in America winds up in the pocket of a skilled doctor that helps off-set the 20 years of schooling that he endured and the loans he took out."</p> <p>Well of course. He's forgetting that all Indians are born with a certain level of graduate level medical training.</p> “And also, in our research that it took us, oh about 40 seconds, we figured out that some of that money here in America winds up in the pocket of a skilled doctor that helps off-set the 20 years of schooling that he endured and the loans he took out.”

Well of course. He’s forgetting that all Indians are born with a certain level of graduate level medical training.

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By: PS http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/12/10/the_big_river_t/comment-page-3/#comment-265706 PS Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:34:42 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6046#comment-265706 <p><i>Hasn't anyone noticed the really insulting thing he said about India, specifically about our doctors, hospitals and medical systems: that they are substandard, that they are somehow "fake</i></p> <p>I have; I know that the Indian education system is really suffering and not reaching most Indian children. You'll see my own comments as my father and many of his friends were doctors that emigrated from India during the '70s when the US needed Indian minds to fill the empty spaces in medicine, science, nursing, engineering etc. And these folks sure have thrived.</p> <p>Beck is laughable in his need to stereotype a developing country's education system, when right here in America, in our hospitals, in our Office Depots, we can see that there are some Indian education systems that are on par with the US despite the wide gulf in resources. He doesn't care about the overall Indian Education system, our problems stemming from poverty, and yes diversity, caste, religion - he doesn't care about nuances but trying to degrade another group of people that aren't white.</p> <p>The most ironic thing about this (beyond the polluted Potomac's condition in a developed country and the US being one of the world's biggest polluters) is that everyday Beck, the idiot uses technology designed by Indians from Indian schools, 60 minutes did documentary on the competitiveness of Indian IITs, silicon valley is inundated with Indian grads, and Indian drs and scientists are providing the competitive services that Americans for some reason were lacking, that Beck uses. This coming from a guy who didn't finish hs; and we all know that status of many Americans hs in the US.</p> Hasn’t anyone noticed the really insulting thing he said about India, specifically about our doctors, hospitals and medical systems: that they are substandard, that they are somehow “fake

I have; I know that the Indian education system is really suffering and not reaching most Indian children. You’ll see my own comments as my father and many of his friends were doctors that emigrated from India during the ’70s when the US needed Indian minds to fill the empty spaces in medicine, science, nursing, engineering etc. And these folks sure have thrived.

Beck is laughable in his need to stereotype a developing country’s education system, when right here in America, in our hospitals, in our Office Depots, we can see that there are some Indian education systems that are on par with the US despite the wide gulf in resources. He doesn’t care about the overall Indian Education system, our problems stemming from poverty, and yes diversity, caste, religion – he doesn’t care about nuances but trying to degrade another group of people that aren’t white.

The most ironic thing about this (beyond the polluted Potomac’s condition in a developed country and the US being one of the world’s biggest polluters) is that everyday Beck, the idiot uses technology designed by Indians from Indian schools, 60 minutes did documentary on the competitiveness of Indian IITs, silicon valley is inundated with Indian grads, and Indian drs and scientists are providing the competitive services that Americans for some reason were lacking, that Beck uses. This coming from a guy who didn’t finish hs; and we all know that status of many Americans hs in the US.

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