Comments on: Is Being Brown Enough To Get Your Vote? http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/11/11/our_friend_bass/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Black Godmen: Rama, Krishna, Sai Baba http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/11/11/our_friend_bass/comment-page-2/#comment-262164 Black Godmen: Rama, Krishna, Sai Baba Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:37:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6010#comment-262164 <blockquote>Nobody can ignore the fact on how our parents would feel/ react if one of us wants to marry a black guy/ girl compared to a white guy/ girl. What Mujib Rahman is showing is nothing more than an extention of that mindset.</blockquote> <p>Dude, Mujib Rahman himself looks as black as an african-american. Bangladeshi-americans also have lower per capita incomes than african-americans. This pandering to western racism is ridiculous.</p> Nobody can ignore the fact on how our parents would feel/ react if one of us wants to marry a black guy/ girl compared to a white guy/ girl. What Mujib Rahman is showing is nothing more than an extention of that mindset.

Dude, Mujib Rahman himself looks as black as an african-american. Bangladeshi-americans also have lower per capita incomes than african-americans. This pandering to western racism is ridiculous.

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By: Dr Amonymous http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/11/11/our_friend_bass/comment-page-2/#comment-262071 Dr Amonymous Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:02:36 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6010#comment-262071 <blockquote>This issue is really more about the symbolic value to the tribes involved. Party A wants to feel accepted by society. Part B doesn't want people telling them who they should and shouldn't accept. So it is with all these wedge issues. It's rarely about the issue itself. It's about what the issue means to your favored band of political activists.</blockquote> <p>I am a member of Party A. I am willing to concede the purely symbolic question (for now) in exchange for all the aspects of this debate that are NOT symbolic. I strongly support marriage advocates because the symbolism is actually part of a cultural battle. but I strongly disagree with their singlemindedness on the topic, which often has lead to actions to the detriment of the community that they are saying they are working for the benefit of, Party A.</p> <p>You can insert a class, race, gender, sexuality, and other analysis here to demonstrate why a dispute such as the one you described between the people who speak for Party A and the people who speak for Party B are largely part of the same class and are operating on common terrain.</p> This issue is really more about the symbolic value to the tribes involved. Party A wants to feel accepted by society. Part B doesn’t want people telling them who they should and shouldn’t accept. So it is with all these wedge issues. It’s rarely about the issue itself. It’s about what the issue means to your favored band of political activists.

I am a member of Party A. I am willing to concede the purely symbolic question (for now) in exchange for all the aspects of this debate that are NOT symbolic. I strongly support marriage advocates because the symbolism is actually part of a cultural battle. but I strongly disagree with their singlemindedness on the topic, which often has lead to actions to the detriment of the community that they are saying they are working for the benefit of, Party A.

You can insert a class, race, gender, sexuality, and other analysis here to demonstrate why a dispute such as the one you described between the people who speak for Party A and the people who speak for Party B are largely part of the same class and are operating on common terrain.

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By: huh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/11/11/our_friend_bass/comment-page-2/#comment-262058 huh Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:12:01 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6010#comment-262058 <blockquote>Couldn't find anything solid could you?</blockquote> <p>i gave you at least one pointer,. but stick to your unfounded claims so you can excuse yourself from modernity.</p> Couldn’t find anything solid could you?

i gave you at least one pointer,. but stick to your unfounded claims so you can excuse yourself from modernity.

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By: Yoga Fire http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/11/11/our_friend_bass/comment-page-2/#comment-262029 Yoga Fire Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:17:34 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6010#comment-262029 <blockquote>do your own research. you were the one making the unfounded claims in the first place.</blockquote> <p>Couldn't find anything solid could you?</p> do your own research. you were the one making the unfounded claims in the first place.

Couldn’t find anything solid could you?

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By: huh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/11/11/our_friend_bass/comment-page-2/#comment-262028 huh Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:09:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6010#comment-262028 <blockquote>Perhaps you could produce them?</blockquote> <p>do your own research. you were the one making the unfounded claims in the first place.</p> <p>for example, you might start with reading the maine question that was rejected. you might want to look at the ads. and the interviews of voters. and so on.</p> Perhaps you could produce them?

do your own research. you were the one making the unfounded claims in the first place.

for example, you might start with reading the maine question that was rejected. you might want to look at the ads. and the interviews of voters. and so on.

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By: Yoga Fire http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/11/11/our_friend_bass/comment-page-2/#comment-262025 Yoga Fire Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:45:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6010#comment-262025 <blockquote>exit poll after exit poll and ads show what motivates these voters.</blockquote> <p>Perhaps you could produce them?</p> exit poll after exit poll and ads show what motivates these voters.

Perhaps you could produce them?

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By: huh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/11/11/our_friend_bass/comment-page-2/#comment-262024 huh Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:42:07 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6010#comment-262024 <blockquote>I make a point of not confusing ads and propaganda with reality.</blockquote> <p>you mean - not letting reality intrude into whatever benign portrait you want to paint of those who oppose equality.</p> <p>exit poll after exit poll and ads show what motivates these voters.</p> I make a point of not confusing ads and propaganda with reality.

you mean – not letting reality intrude into whatever benign portrait you want to paint of those who oppose equality.

exit poll after exit poll and ads show what motivates these voters.

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By: Yoga Fire http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/11/11/our_friend_bass/comment-page-2/#comment-262019 Yoga Fire Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:05:28 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6010#comment-262019 <p>I make a point of not confusing ads and propaganda with reality. Activist groups are always going to be more over the top than the people doing the voting.</p> <p>Of course, which group of people you're more willing to accept caricatures of at face value is also going to depend, once again, on which band of activists you identify more with.</p> I make a point of not confusing ads and propaganda with reality. Activist groups are always going to be more over the top than the people doing the voting.

Of course, which group of people you’re more willing to accept caricatures of at face value is also going to depend, once again, on which band of activists you identify more with.

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By: huh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/11/11/our_friend_bass/comment-page-2/#comment-262015 huh Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:44:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6010#comment-262015 <blockquote>Part B doesn't want people telling them who they should and shouldn't accept. </blockquote> <p>no. party b wants to be bigoted. it is not that party a is issue-based and party b is standing on a libertarian ideal. have you even been following the debates, ads and propaganda in state after state after state?</p> Part B doesn’t want people telling them who they should and shouldn’t accept.

no. party b wants to be bigoted. it is not that party a is issue-based and party b is standing on a libertarian ideal. have you even been following the debates, ads and propaganda in state after state after state?

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By: Yoga Fire http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/11/11/our_friend_bass/comment-page-2/#comment-262010 Yoga Fire Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:38:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6010#comment-262010 <blockquote>I don't really care for marriage. I think more people in this country would be receptive to gay marriage if we pushed for "civil unions" like they have in the UK</blockquote> <p>I'm sure they would, but at the end of the day it's a relatively trivial semantic distinction. This issue is really more about the symbolic value to the tribes involved. Party A wants to feel accepted by society. Part B doesn't want people telling them who they should and shouldn't accept.</p> <p>So it is with all these wedge issues. It's rarely about the issue itself. It's about what the issue means to your favored band of political activists.</p> I don’t really care for marriage. I think more people in this country would be receptive to gay marriage if we pushed for “civil unions” like they have in the UK

I’m sure they would, but at the end of the day it’s a relatively trivial semantic distinction. This issue is really more about the symbolic value to the tribes involved. Party A wants to feel accepted by society. Part B doesn’t want people telling them who they should and shouldn’t accept.

So it is with all these wedge issues. It’s rarely about the issue itself. It’s about what the issue means to your favored band of political activists.

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