Comments on: Lanka Solidarity: Washington, DC-Area Fundraiser for IDPs in Sri Lanka http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/11/09/lanka_solidarit/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Dr Amonymous http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/11/09/lanka_solidarit/comment-page-1/#comment-261982 Dr Amonymous Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:51:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6008#comment-261982 <blockquote>why does Solidarity have to be multi-ethnic?</blockquote> <p>I don't think it has to be, and I don't think it always can be, and it has pitfalls. However, when one of the central problems in the conflcit is that the polarisation has taken on such an extreme form that middle ground is nearly impossible, it becomes relevant to demonstrate that the narrative is not self-evident or accurate by actually working across such lines - even after 60 years of self-fulfilling prophecy.</p> why does Solidarity have to be multi-ethnic?

I don’t think it has to be, and I don’t think it always can be, and it has pitfalls. However, when one of the central problems in the conflcit is that the polarisation has taken on such an extreme form that middle ground is nearly impossible, it becomes relevant to demonstrate that the narrative is not self-evident or accurate by actually working across such lines – even after 60 years of self-fulfilling prophecy.

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By: Vivek http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/11/09/lanka_solidarit/comment-page-1/#comment-261903 Vivek Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:15:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6008#comment-261903 <p>Thanks for writing this, Sugi!</p> <p>Folks, if you're interested, please do bookmark the website. We just got up and running, and there are a number of projects which we'll be unveiling over the next few months, including resources, a primer on the conflict in Sri Lanka, and a moderated discussion forum. Hopefully we can take advantage of the anonymity the internet provides by having the open and frank discussions which sometimes aren't possible in public, rather than the poop-flinging sessions which have made such spaces infamous.</p> <p>We don't yet have RSS feeds up and running, but hope to by week's end.</p> <p>We do, however, have a daily news digest, and if you'd like to sign up for it, you can do so <a href="http://www.lankasolidarity.org/contact/news/subscribe">here</a>.</p> Thanks for writing this, Sugi!

Folks, if you’re interested, please do bookmark the website. We just got up and running, and there are a number of projects which we’ll be unveiling over the next few months, including resources, a primer on the conflict in Sri Lanka, and a moderated discussion forum. Hopefully we can take advantage of the anonymity the internet provides by having the open and frank discussions which sometimes aren’t possible in public, rather than the poop-flinging sessions which have made such spaces infamous.

We don’t yet have RSS feeds up and running, but hope to by week’s end.

We do, however, have a daily news digest, and if you’d like to sign up for it, you can do so here.

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By: Nayagan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/11/09/lanka_solidarit/comment-page-1/#comment-261869 Nayagan Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:24:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6008#comment-261869 <p>why does Solidarity have to be multi-ethnic? i.e. is the normative view that all ethnicities must be included for the organization to be efficient and successful? Or is it that appearances rule? The money my family donated to ACT lanka went there because they have access to the camps, not because the lady who replied was tamil/singhalese/muslim whatever.</p> why does Solidarity have to be multi-ethnic? i.e. is the normative view that all ethnicities must be included for the organization to be efficient and successful? Or is it that appearances rule? The money my family donated to ACT lanka went there because they have access to the camps, not because the lady who replied was tamil/singhalese/muslim whatever.

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By: visitor http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/11/09/lanka_solidarit/comment-page-1/#comment-261815 visitor Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:08:57 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6008#comment-261815 <p>http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=146183291463&ref=ts</p> <p>"ABOUT HEARTS FOR HARMONY</p> <p>We are a group of young people of Sri Lankan descent, residing within the Greater Toronto Area, who are concerned with the situation the Internally Displaced Persons are currently faced with in Sri Lanka. We believe that our youth have a pivotal role to play in paving the way forward, while simultaneously promoting change through unity.</p> <p>Our mission is to support charitable and non-political endeavours on the ground in Sri Lanka, working to aid the IDPs. We hope to demonstrate to our communities that the Sri Lankan diaspora - regardless of race, ethnicity, religion, gender, or social class - can work together to create long-lasting results conducive to Sri Lanka's rehabilitation."</p> <p>November 20th.</p> http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=146183291463&ref=ts

“ABOUT HEARTS FOR HARMONY

We are a group of young people of Sri Lankan descent, residing within the Greater Toronto Area, who are concerned with the situation the Internally Displaced Persons are currently faced with in Sri Lanka. We believe that our youth have a pivotal role to play in paving the way forward, while simultaneously promoting change through unity.

Our mission is to support charitable and non-political endeavours on the ground in Sri Lanka, working to aid the IDPs. We hope to demonstrate to our communities that the Sri Lankan diaspora – regardless of race, ethnicity, religion, gender, or social class – can work together to create long-lasting results conducive to Sri Lanka’s rehabilitation.”

November 20th.

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By: PM http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/11/09/lanka_solidarit/comment-page-1/#comment-261744 PM Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:24:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6008#comment-261744 <blockquote>Also, I had no idea that being Muslim and Tamil were mutually exclusive. Man, I guess I should break this news to my friend. I wonder how he will take it. . .</blockquote> <p>Is your friend Aziz Ansari?</p> Also, I had no idea that being Muslim and Tamil were mutually exclusive. Man, I guess I should break this news to my friend. I wonder how he will take it. . .

Is your friend Aziz Ansari?

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By: V.V. Ganeshananthan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/11/09/lanka_solidarit/comment-page-1/#comment-261732 V.V. Ganeshananthan Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:15:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6008#comment-261732 <p>WebGod saith that event announcement departs when event is over. Here are the links to the charities:</p> <p>ACT Lanka (http://www.actlanka.org/) and the Neelan Tiruchelvam Trust (http://neelan.org)</p> <p>/vvg</p> WebGod saith that event announcement departs when event is over. Here are the links to the charities:

ACT Lanka (http://www.actlanka.org/) and the Neelan Tiruchelvam Trust (http://neelan.org)

/vvg

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By: V.V. Ganeshananthan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/11/09/lanka_solidarit/comment-page-1/#comment-261729 V.V. Ganeshananthan Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:57:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6008#comment-261729 <p>Must keep this brief before rushing to work, but wanted to pipe up and say thank you to those of you engaging so constructively here. Many of the questions raised earlier in the thread have already been addressed by others, so let me just point out that if you look on the Lanka Solidarity website, you can see some member bios. We are, indeed, multiethnic, and have tried to make an effort to be welcoming. You'll notice the same tenor in the mission and vision statement.</p> <p>Also, we chose to support charities with access/interests to the camps, because from our understanding, this is a widely acknowledged and <em>urgent</em> need. That said, those charities also have multiethnic interests and do work with different populations. You can check them out by following the links in the event announcement...</p> <p>More later!</p> Must keep this brief before rushing to work, but wanted to pipe up and say thank you to those of you engaging so constructively here. Many of the questions raised earlier in the thread have already been addressed by others, so let me just point out that if you look on the Lanka Solidarity website, you can see some member bios. We are, indeed, multiethnic, and have tried to make an effort to be welcoming. You’ll notice the same tenor in the mission and vision statement.

Also, we chose to support charities with access/interests to the camps, because from our understanding, this is a widely acknowledged and urgent need. That said, those charities also have multiethnic interests and do work with different populations. You can check them out by following the links in the event announcement…

More later!

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By: Dr Amonymous http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/11/09/lanka_solidarit/comment-page-1/#comment-261726 Dr Amonymous Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:21:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6008#comment-261726 <blockquote>It is the whole society not just an individual organization which is to be held responsible for the evils.</blockquote> <p>This is a crucial step in a chain of logic that leads to all kinds of stereotyping and discrimination that underming social stability. Organisation A engages in something in the name of Group A. Therefore, according to your logic, all members of Group A are assumed to be responsible for the actions of Organisation A, regardless of what they think, believe, feel, or otherwise do as human beings - even if they opopse the actions of Group A to the core of their being, or halfway do, or feel complicated about it - or otherwise respond - as human beings.</p> <p>In the meantime, their complications as human beings get erased, they are forced into a position of feeling trapped between a rock and a hard place, and they are left withou the ability to speak, because all we end up looking at is - are you a member of group A, B, or C? And that's, well, saddening.</p> <p>There are always social factors involved in violence - not just organisations or states or whatnot- but they have to be traced specifically to avoid falling into the kind of communal logic that has dominated Sri Lankan society on many sides. This is why I respect so deeply what Sandhi Institute and Lanka Solidarity and people I know who are human beings in addition to being members of A,B,or C are trying to do.</p> <p>Maybe this would be a naive approach to take if were writing a thesis on the subject, but from the vantage point of how to alleviate the situation so that all people in Sri Lanka are eventually able to live in peace and seek fulfillment, I don't see any way out other than to gradually reduce the level of tenesion across a broad base so that people can at least speak. Otherwise, what do you have left? Just generation after generation of violence, whether physical, political, or metaphorical.</p> It is the whole society not just an individual organization which is to be held responsible for the evils.

This is a crucial step in a chain of logic that leads to all kinds of stereotyping and discrimination that underming social stability. Organisation A engages in something in the name of Group A. Therefore, according to your logic, all members of Group A are assumed to be responsible for the actions of Organisation A, regardless of what they think, believe, feel, or otherwise do as human beings – even if they opopse the actions of Group A to the core of their being, or halfway do, or feel complicated about it – or otherwise respond – as human beings.

In the meantime, their complications as human beings get erased, they are forced into a position of feeling trapped between a rock and a hard place, and they are left withou the ability to speak, because all we end up looking at is – are you a member of group A, B, or C? And that’s, well, saddening.

There are always social factors involved in violence – not just organisations or states or whatnot- but they have to be traced specifically to avoid falling into the kind of communal logic that has dominated Sri Lankan society on many sides. This is why I respect so deeply what Sandhi Institute and Lanka Solidarity and people I know who are human beings in addition to being members of A,B,or C are trying to do.

Maybe this would be a naive approach to take if were writing a thesis on the subject, but from the vantage point of how to alleviate the situation so that all people in Sri Lanka are eventually able to live in peace and seek fulfillment, I don’t see any way out other than to gradually reduce the level of tenesion across a broad base so that people can at least speak. Otherwise, what do you have left? Just generation after generation of violence, whether physical, political, or metaphorical.

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By: DD http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/11/09/lanka_solidarit/comment-page-1/#comment-261717 DD Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:02:23 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6008#comment-261717 <blockquote>Something to throw in the mix: While the parentals are from India and I speak Tamil, it's really hard to say "I'm not a Tamil but I am," when asked "Are you a Tamil?" by non-South Asians, and not sound/feel like a jerk.</blockquote> <p>Feeling like a jerk about distancing yourself from your Tamil roots is a good thing. It means that you feel something is wrong.</p> <p>The answer is actually simple --just be proud of the hertitage and leave it like that - do not offer a explanation for the LTTE unless asked. The Irish do not usually apologise for the IRA or bring it up, so why should you. All you are doing by bringing up the LTTE is binding your identity to it.</p> <p>At the end of the day the tamil civilization is one of the older ones and it has made a lot of contributions to the world, from math to science. Even cash is a Tamil word. The LTTE is at the end of the day, rather insignificant in the overall history. In any case there are several sides to the Lankan story and most people are really just not that interested.</p> Something to throw in the mix: While the parentals are from India and I speak Tamil, it’s really hard to say “I’m not a Tamil but I am,” when asked “Are you a Tamil?” by non-South Asians, and not sound/feel like a jerk.

Feeling like a jerk about distancing yourself from your Tamil roots is a good thing. It means that you feel something is wrong.

The answer is actually simple –just be proud of the hertitage and leave it like that – do not offer a explanation for the LTTE unless asked. The Irish do not usually apologise for the IRA or bring it up, so why should you. All you are doing by bringing up the LTTE is binding your identity to it.

At the end of the day the tamil civilization is one of the older ones and it has made a lot of contributions to the world, from math to science. Even cash is a Tamil word. The LTTE is at the end of the day, rather insignificant in the overall history. In any case there are several sides to the Lankan story and most people are really just not that interested.

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By: Anonymous http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/11/09/lanka_solidarit/comment-page-1/#comment-261709 Anonymous Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:11:56 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=6008#comment-261709 <p>Loki's comments (not sure I really understood some of the statements, but I'm talking about the overall gist) strike me as racist, or, at the very least, narrow-minded. I'm a Tamil, an Iyer, whose family hails from Chennai. Tamil Nadu society is not monolithic. It's complicated, like many other societies. There are numerous communities and subcommunities and they are often at odds with each other (not that that's a good thing). So, to categorically say that 'Tamils are chauvinists' is downright inaccurate and simple-minded. Some Tamils are chauvinists, some are integrationists, some (like my grandmother) are Hindi scholars, some are English scholars, some only speak Tamil, some are Tiger sympathizers, some are Tiger haters, etc. I'm sure the vast majority of folks reading this already know what I'm saying. . . I'm just trying to school Loki on human nature 101.</p> Loki’s comments (not sure I really understood some of the statements, but I’m talking about the overall gist) strike me as racist, or, at the very least, narrow-minded. I’m a Tamil, an Iyer, whose family hails from Chennai. Tamil Nadu society is not monolithic. It’s complicated, like many other societies. There are numerous communities and subcommunities and they are often at odds with each other (not that that’s a good thing). So, to categorically say that ‘Tamils are chauvinists’ is downright inaccurate and simple-minded. Some Tamils are chauvinists, some are integrationists, some (like my grandmother) are Hindi scholars, some are English scholars, some only speak Tamil, some are Tiger sympathizers, some are Tiger haters, etc. I’m sure the vast majority of folks reading this already know what I’m saying. . . I’m just trying to school Loki on human nature 101.

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