Comments on: M.I.A. Slams Obama, Fails History http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/10/09/mia_slams_obama/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Akash http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/10/09/mia_slams_obama/comment-page-3/#comment-257188 Akash Sat, 17 Oct 2009 09:11:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5980#comment-257188 <p>The <a href="http://www.slowpokecomics.com/strips/terminatrix.html">real reason</a>!</p> The real reason!

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By: Nanda Kishore http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/10/09/mia_slams_obama/comment-page-3/#comment-257029 Nanda Kishore Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:01:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5980#comment-257029 <p>Wow, Salil, way to defend homey. How about you reflect on your own condescension towards MIA based on an effin' tweet? "Those who dance on our stages", huh? As opposed to erudite, articulate and thoughtful polyglots who miss the point altogether because, hey, let's take the 'talent' to task for supposedly reckless comments while the great hope continues the policies of that moron he is supposed to have saved the world from. Get perspective!</p> Wow, Salil, way to defend homey. How about you reflect on your own condescension towards MIA based on an effin’ tweet? “Those who dance on our stages”, huh? As opposed to erudite, articulate and thoughtful polyglots who miss the point altogether because, hey, let’s take the ‘talent’ to task for supposedly reckless comments while the great hope continues the policies of that moron he is supposed to have saved the world from. Get perspective!

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By: Violet in Twilight http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/10/09/mia_slams_obama/comment-page-3/#comment-257004 Violet in Twilight Fri, 16 Oct 2009 04:58:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5980#comment-257004 <p>In my mind Obama deserves Nobel Peace Prize just for becoming US President. I don't see it as a small accomplishment to be the first black president in US. It is a human rights achievement to rise awareness of their potential to racial minorities in US. Some Nobel laureates don't even have that...</p> <p>I found Gore winning the prize as more absurd.</p> In my mind Obama deserves Nobel Peace Prize just for becoming US President. I don’t see it as a small accomplishment to be the first black president in US. It is a human rights achievement to rise awareness of their potential to racial minorities in US. Some Nobel laureates don’t even have that…

I found Gore winning the prize as more absurd.

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By: bytewords http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/10/09/mia_slams_obama/comment-page-3/#comment-256994 bytewords Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:57:31 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5980#comment-256994 <blockquote>All these pukes saying stuff like "why does Obama deserve an award that went to Gandhi </blockquote> <p>gandhi wasn't deemed worthy of the peace prize.</p> All these pukes saying stuff like “why does Obama deserve an award that went to Gandhi

gandhi wasn’t deemed worthy of the peace prize.

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By: Nayagan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/10/09/mia_slams_obama/comment-page-3/#comment-256960 Nayagan Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:25:32 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5980#comment-256960 <p>Salil,</p> <p>you're saying that the peace prize itself ISN'T a joke? That Kissinger, Carter and Gore really exemplify the 'progressive' values you identified? When did a) knowingly perpetuate war, b) fail to accomplish anything your big mouth set in motion, c) pushing climatologists off center stage and into the exits qualify as expressions of those values? The "not bush" argument for giving Obama the nobel is more succinctly stated than in your rant: "he is not bush." It's not a great argument but it's still made in regards to a meaningless trophy--not an issue but certainly an annoyance.</p> Salil,

you’re saying that the peace prize itself ISN’T a joke? That Kissinger, Carter and Gore really exemplify the ‘progressive’ values you identified? When did a) knowingly perpetuate war, b) fail to accomplish anything your big mouth set in motion, c) pushing climatologists off center stage and into the exits qualify as expressions of those values? The “not bush” argument for giving Obama the nobel is more succinctly stated than in your rant: “he is not bush.” It’s not a great argument but it’s still made in regards to a meaningless trophy–not an issue but certainly an annoyance.

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By: Salil Maniktahla http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/10/09/mia_slams_obama/comment-page-3/#comment-256947 Salil Maniktahla Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:13:58 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5980#comment-256947 <p>Finally, as per the post itself: MIA got it wrong, but she's just a talent. We tend to expect too much from the people who dance on our stages, even if they're all "daughter-of-a-rebel" authenticated. She's smart, but she's only human.</p> <p>Kudos for setting the record straight. If she's a good person and the criticism actually reaches her ears, then I hope she'll have the good grace to acknowledge it.</p> Finally, as per the post itself: MIA got it wrong, but she’s just a talent. We tend to expect too much from the people who dance on our stages, even if they’re all “daughter-of-a-rebel” authenticated. She’s smart, but she’s only human.

Kudos for setting the record straight. If she’s a good person and the criticism actually reaches her ears, then I hope she’ll have the good grace to acknowledge it.

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By: Salil Maniktahla http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/10/09/mia_slams_obama/comment-page-3/#comment-256945 Salil Maniktahla Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:11:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5980#comment-256945 <p>oh, holy crap. I know it's fashionable and just all the rage to pooh-pooh Obama's Nobel, but seriously, I expected more from this crowd than the usual parroting of the "conventional wisdom."</p> <p>Here's the why of it, since some of you really do seem to have trouble getting it.</p> <ol> <li><p>Bush was a moron who did real damage to "world peace" as a goal, and to our country's reputation abroad (and fuck the Republicans who seem to think that foreign opinion is irrelevant. The reasons are obvious for why international support for our nation's policies are important. If you can't think of any, you're stupid.</p></li> <li><p>Obama could literally do nothing but talk, and people feel better about him (in Oslo, and presumably in most other countries that have even a remotely favorable opinion of the US).</p></li> <li><p>People in this and other countries have high hopes for him and his presidency. To the naysayers, please...shut the hell up. As my very southern godmother used to say, either help or get out of the kitchen. You're not accomplishing anything much except look like an idiot when you keep forcing questions about the president's legitimacy as a leader (yeah, I'm talking to you, birthers, tea-baggers (ha! only a true fucktard willingly wears THAT appellation), and healthcare reform obstructionists.</p></li> </ol> <p>One last thing, which makes me practically quiver with rage. All these pukes saying stuff like "why does Obama deserve an award that went to Gandhi and Mother Theresa" are totally missing a pretty huge point. That point is that all those people who've won the Nobel Peace Prize espouse <em>liberal</em> values: tolerance, multiculturalism, the greatest good for the greatest number, financial opportunities for the lower social rungs, civil rights for all, a deep belief in fair play and level playing fields, environmental justice and awareness...what many of us nowadays call "progressive" values.</p> <p>I mean, what exactly are these mealy-mouthed hypocrites really saying? That they actually <em>love</em> Al Gore, the IPCC, Anwar Sadat, Menachem Begin, George C. Marshall and the United Nations? That Obama does not belong in such heady company? Suddenly it's all praise for this rabble of foreigners and wimps who espouse peace and doing good for the common man?</p> <p>It makes me want to say mean things and ruin my chances at winning it myself one day.</p> oh, holy crap. I know it’s fashionable and just all the rage to pooh-pooh Obama’s Nobel, but seriously, I expected more from this crowd than the usual parroting of the “conventional wisdom.”

Here’s the why of it, since some of you really do seem to have trouble getting it.

  1. Bush was a moron who did real damage to “world peace” as a goal, and to our country’s reputation abroad (and fuck the Republicans who seem to think that foreign opinion is irrelevant. The reasons are obvious for why international support for our nation’s policies are important. If you can’t think of any, you’re stupid.

  2. Obama could literally do nothing but talk, and people feel better about him (in Oslo, and presumably in most other countries that have even a remotely favorable opinion of the US).

  3. People in this and other countries have high hopes for him and his presidency. To the naysayers, please…shut the hell up. As my very southern godmother used to say, either help or get out of the kitchen. You’re not accomplishing anything much except look like an idiot when you keep forcing questions about the president’s legitimacy as a leader (yeah, I’m talking to you, birthers, tea-baggers (ha! only a true fucktard willingly wears THAT appellation), and healthcare reform obstructionists.

One last thing, which makes me practically quiver with rage. All these pukes saying stuff like “why does Obama deserve an award that went to Gandhi and Mother Theresa” are totally missing a pretty huge point. That point is that all those people who’ve won the Nobel Peace Prize espouse liberal values: tolerance, multiculturalism, the greatest good for the greatest number, financial opportunities for the lower social rungs, civil rights for all, a deep belief in fair play and level playing fields, environmental justice and awareness…what many of us nowadays call “progressive” values.

I mean, what exactly are these mealy-mouthed hypocrites really saying? That they actually love Al Gore, the IPCC, Anwar Sadat, Menachem Begin, George C. Marshall and the United Nations? That Obama does not belong in such heady company? Suddenly it’s all praise for this rabble of foreigners and wimps who espouse peace and doing good for the common man?

It makes me want to say mean things and ruin my chances at winning it myself one day.

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By: bRown sOulz http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/10/09/mia_slams_obama/comment-page-3/#comment-256835 bRown sOulz Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:55:58 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5980#comment-256835 <p>Wonder what Rahul (<i>le Gandhi</i>) is gonna get when he comes to power......</p> Wonder what Rahul (le Gandhi) is gonna get when he comes to power……

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By: Manju http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/10/09/mia_slams_obama/comment-page-3/#comment-256752 Manju Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:26:01 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5980#comment-256752 <blockquote>Obama is not Jesus Christ </blockquote> <p>Hey, quit insinuating he's the antichrist.</p> Obama is not Jesus Christ

Hey, quit insinuating he’s the antichrist.

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By: Dr Amonymous http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/10/09/mia_slams_obama/comment-page-3/#comment-256749 Dr Amonymous Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:44:22 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5980#comment-256749 <blockquote>Also, how do people EXPECT Obama to change foreign policy in 10 months? Give me a break!</blockquote> <p>I don't know - maybe by not escalating the war in Afghanstian and now Pakistan? Or at least not mentioning soldiers int he acceptance speech for the Nobel Peace Prize.</p> <p>There are many ways. I'll give the administration credit for at least making a nod towards delaying an IMF loan to the government of Sri Lanka, but even that didn't seem to be a very high priority - but I don't know how firmly entrenched the opposition of the governments of China and Russia were in the Security Council but I would be curious to know what kind of political capital it would have taken to get that delay until a plausible and humane solution was found in Sri Lanka. and of course you could argue that they didn't have to go through the UN since they don't for a lot of other stuff.</p> Also, how do people EXPECT Obama to change foreign policy in 10 months? Give me a break!

I don’t know – maybe by not escalating the war in Afghanstian and now Pakistan? Or at least not mentioning soldiers int he acceptance speech for the Nobel Peace Prize.

There are many ways. I’ll give the administration credit for at least making a nod towards delaying an IMF loan to the government of Sri Lanka, but even that didn’t seem to be a very high priority – but I don’t know how firmly entrenched the opposition of the governments of China and Russia were in the Security Council but I would be curious to know what kind of political capital it would have taken to get that delay until a plausible and humane solution was found in Sri Lanka. and of course you could argue that they didn’t have to go through the UN since they don’t for a lot of other stuff.

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