Comments on: “Down” is up on top http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/10/08/down_is_up_on_t/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: yucksta http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/10/08/down_is_up_on_t/comment-page-1/#comment-258377 yucksta Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:15:38 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5979#comment-258377 <p>What's this got to do with the Taliban? Let's not stray too far off topic.</p> <p>I just find parroting of the most base, empty-headed, friviolous, hedonistic modes of western life ugly and not worth celebrating, but definitely worth condemning. And this is what Jay Sean and his ilk represent to me.</p> <p>Slackness.</p> What’s this got to do with the Taliban? Let’s not stray too far off topic.

I just find parroting of the most base, empty-headed, friviolous, hedonistic modes of western life ugly and not worth celebrating, but definitely worth condemning. And this is what Jay Sean and his ilk represent to me.

Slackness.

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By: hairy om http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/10/08/down_is_up_on_t/comment-page-1/#comment-258376 hairy om Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:10:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5979#comment-258376 <blockquote>He has every right to disapprove of the (sometimes) objectionable lyrics in mainstream R&B/Hip-Hop.</blockquote> <p>i agreed with him, didnt i? and disapprove is convenient shorthand instead of the tedious exactness of "the corrupted, decadent, immoral, sodom and gomorrah lifestyle of the modern westerner.."</p> He has every right to disapprove of the (sometimes) objectionable lyrics in mainstream R&B/Hip-Hop.

i agreed with him, didnt i? and disapprove is convenient shorthand instead of the tedious exactness of “the corrupted, decadent, immoral, sodom and gomorrah lifestyle of the modern westerner..”

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By: hairy om http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/10/08/down_is_up_on_t/comment-page-1/#comment-258375 hairy om Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:06:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5979#comment-258375 <blockquote>Moreover, you clearly didn't get the sarcasm implied when he said he was being half serious.</blockquote> <p>i did. i said half of him.</p> <blockquote>Hyperbole is a very useful literary device you know?</blockquote> <p>i agree. this is why i used it.</p> Moreover, you clearly didn’t get the sarcasm implied when he said he was being half serious.

i did. i said half of him.

Hyperbole is a very useful literary device you know?

i agree. this is why i used it.

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By: Yoga Fire http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/10/08/down_is_up_on_t/comment-page-1/#comment-258374 Yoga Fire Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:05:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5979#comment-258374 <p>I'm afraid the post-9/11 corollary to Godwin's Law is in effect. It's easy to dismiss concerns by throwing the word "Taliban" around. But at some point you just end up broad-brushing everyone who tells people to get a hold of themselves.</p> <p>He has every right to disapprove of the (sometimes) objectionable lyrics in mainstream R&B/Hip-Hop. It's a concern that many people from many movements (including feminists and Black advocacy groups) happen to share. Trying to dismiss it as "Taliban-esque" is just lazy and unreflective.</p> <p>Moreover, you clearly didn't get the sarcasm implied when he said he was being half serious. Hyperbole is a very useful literary device you know?</p> I’m afraid the post-9/11 corollary to Godwin’s Law is in effect. It’s easy to dismiss concerns by throwing the word “Taliban” around. But at some point you just end up broad-brushing everyone who tells people to get a hold of themselves.

He has every right to disapprove of the (sometimes) objectionable lyrics in mainstream R&B/Hip-Hop. It’s a concern that many people from many movements (including feminists and Black advocacy groups) happen to share. Trying to dismiss it as “Taliban-esque” is just lazy and unreflective.

Moreover, you clearly didn’t get the sarcasm implied when he said he was being half serious. Hyperbole is a very useful literary device you know?

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By: hairy om http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/10/08/down_is_up_on_t/comment-page-1/#comment-258373 hairy om Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:03:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5979#comment-258373 <blockquote>the treating women like chattel</blockquote> <p>it never ceases to amuse me how those who find nuance, semantics, culture and history in indian practices like dowry, casteism, and the otherwise horrible treatment of a large swath of women and underprivileged suddenly become ardent and absolute defenders of women's rights when it comes to taliban.</p> the treating women like chattel

it never ceases to amuse me how those who find nuance, semantics, culture and history in indian practices like dowry, casteism, and the otherwise horrible treatment of a large swath of women and underprivileged suddenly become ardent and absolute defenders of women’s rights when it comes to taliban.

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By: hairy om http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/10/08/down_is_up_on_t/comment-page-1/#comment-258367 hairy om Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:57:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5979#comment-258367 <blockquote>but their disapproval of people getting their drink on and their smoke on and then going home with something to poke on. </blockquote> <p>for the corrupted, decadent, immoral, sodom and gomorrah lifestyle of the modern westerner.. yes sounds like simple, um, disapproval to me too.</p> but their disapproval of people getting their drink on and their smoke on and then going home with something to poke on.

for the corrupted, decadent, immoral, sodom and gomorrah lifestyle of the modern westerner.. yes sounds like simple, um, disapproval to me too.

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By: Yoga Fire http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/10/08/down_is_up_on_t/comment-page-1/#comment-258365 Yoga Fire Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:41:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5979#comment-258365 <blockquote>no worries, there is a place in the taliban for you. at least for half of you.</blockquote> <p>Yes, because being disapproving of club culture is what makes the Taliban bad. It's not the strapping bombs to their chests and blowing up buses, the treating women like chattel, or the killing everyone who doesn't subscribe to their absurdly hardline and retrograde brand of Islam that makes them bad, but their disapproval of people getting their drink on and their smoke on and then going home with something to poke on.</p> <p>Yes.</p> no worries, there is a place in the taliban for you. at least for half of you.

Yes, because being disapproving of club culture is what makes the Taliban bad. It’s not the strapping bombs to their chests and blowing up buses, the treating women like chattel, or the killing everyone who doesn’t subscribe to their absurdly hardline and retrograde brand of Islam that makes them bad, but their disapproval of people getting their drink on and their smoke on and then going home with something to poke on.

Yes.

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By: hairy om http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/10/08/down_is_up_on_t/comment-page-1/#comment-258363 hairy om Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:37:10 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5979#comment-258363 <blockquote>Make no mistake, this song like other pop/clubs songs is an athem for the corrupted, decadent, immoral, sodom and gomorrah lifestyle of the modern westerner.</blockquote> <p>no worries, there is a place in the taliban for you. at least for half of you.</p> Make no mistake, this song like other pop/clubs songs is an athem for the corrupted, decadent, immoral, sodom and gomorrah lifestyle of the modern westerner.

no worries, there is a place in the taliban for you. at least for half of you.

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By: Yoga Fire http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/10/08/down_is_up_on_t/comment-page-1/#comment-258362 Yoga Fire Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:36:56 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5979#comment-258362 <blockquote>But if he did, like Yoga Fire said it would be awesome and would say a lot more about being "proud" than dressing and acting like everyone else out there.</blockquote> <p>Oh I wasn't referring to any Desi pride thing. I was just referring to how awesome and manly it would be if we all walked around sporting beards and handlebar mustaches.</p> <p>It's what Teddy Roosevelt would do.</p> But if he did, like Yoga Fire said it would be awesome and would say a lot more about being “proud” than dressing and acting like everyone else out there.

Oh I wasn’t referring to any Desi pride thing. I was just referring to how awesome and manly it would be if we all walked around sporting beards and handlebar mustaches.

It’s what Teddy Roosevelt would do.

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By: yucksta http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/10/08/down_is_up_on_t/comment-page-1/#comment-258360 yucksta Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:30:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5979#comment-258360 <p>For the record, I'm half serious. But this disgusts me, at least the half of me.</p> For the record, I’m half serious. But this disgusts me, at least the half of me.

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