Comments on: The Desi Girl Dilemma http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/09/07/the_desi_girl_d/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Hot desi girls http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/09/07/the_desi_girl_d/comment-page-3/#comment-286467 Hot desi girls Fri, 16 Sep 2011 07:46:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5933#comment-286467 <p>She is too hot and cooolll :)</p> She is too hot and cooolll :)

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By: mujra dance http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/09/07/the_desi_girl_d/comment-page-3/#comment-260535 mujra dance Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:36:28 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5933#comment-260535 <p>i have tried many tips and products but no changes to my skin yet.</p> i have tried many tips and products but no changes to my skin yet.

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By: Tarmon Gaidon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/09/07/the_desi_girl_d/comment-page-3/#comment-248043 Tarmon Gaidon Tue, 15 Sep 2009 06:02:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5933#comment-248043 <p>Cindy @ 97 - ditto.</p> <p>Like I said before, I have only just started wearing a bit more than chapstick. And the reason I am wearing more makeup now is that I have found stuff i like and I like to look nice. I always make it a point to make sure I have some lipstick on before a meeting/ presentation etc. So I am wearing for my own confidence really. Unfortunately my hubby rarely notices things like that - but of course the plus side is that he never bothers about me looking a hot mess either :)</p> <p>Did the word feminity trigger off the musings on femisim up above? I don't really necessarily equate the two. I am sure old fashioned hardcore feminists who protested against beauty contests etc would hate the idea. But I'd like to think that we can do what WE like - not what someone else thinks.</p> <p>Also a lot of guys seem to be equating "lots of makeup" to young girls wanting to look good for the boys etc. I never did that - and from the comments of other ladies here, it seems like they didn't either. Most ladies do it because THEY like to look nice - and of course the bloom doesn't look quite so fresh anymore after a certain age :)</p> <p>Lastly - khoofi - props to the Canadian girls for their hairyness. I know loads of people that get heart attacks when they see bodily hair (hardly any indians though).</p> Cindy @ 97 – ditto.

Like I said before, I have only just started wearing a bit more than chapstick. And the reason I am wearing more makeup now is that I have found stuff i like and I like to look nice. I always make it a point to make sure I have some lipstick on before a meeting/ presentation etc. So I am wearing for my own confidence really. Unfortunately my hubby rarely notices things like that – but of course the plus side is that he never bothers about me looking a hot mess either :)

Did the word feminity trigger off the musings on femisim up above? I don’t really necessarily equate the two. I am sure old fashioned hardcore feminists who protested against beauty contests etc would hate the idea. But I’d like to think that we can do what WE like – not what someone else thinks.

Also a lot of guys seem to be equating “lots of makeup” to young girls wanting to look good for the boys etc. I never did that – and from the comments of other ladies here, it seems like they didn’t either. Most ladies do it because THEY like to look nice – and of course the bloom doesn’t look quite so fresh anymore after a certain age :)

Lastly – khoofi – props to the Canadian girls for their hairyness. I know loads of people that get heart attacks when they see bodily hair (hardly any indians though).

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By: sunzari http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/09/07/the_desi_girl_d/comment-page-2/#comment-248035 sunzari Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:23:31 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5933#comment-248035 <p>Men who wear black eyeliner do have a certain sex appeal!</p> Men who wear black eyeliner do have a certain sex appeal!

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By: Demondoll http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/09/07/the_desi_girl_d/comment-page-2/#comment-248033 Demondoll Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:57:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5933#comment-248033 <p>Oh and additionally, I know lots of guys who wear makeup, too. It's not unusual in the Goth world. And I have no problem with that, either.</p> Oh and additionally, I know lots of guys who wear makeup, too. It’s not unusual in the Goth world. And I have no problem with that, either.

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By: Demondoll http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/09/07/the_desi_girl_d/comment-page-2/#comment-248021 Demondoll Tue, 15 Sep 2009 02:07:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5933#comment-248021 <p>@Cindy on comment #97.</p> <p>I'm so glad that you said that, Cindy.</p> <p>I think the feminist movement should not be used to pigeon-hole women into thinking or acting in a certain way, because that defeats the whole point of having a feminist movement in the first place. It was supposed to bring women freedom to do and not do what they wanted. So I have no problem with women using cosmetics if they want to.</p> @Cindy on comment #97.

I’m so glad that you said that, Cindy.

I think the feminist movement should not be used to pigeon-hole women into thinking or acting in a certain way, because that defeats the whole point of having a feminist movement in the first place. It was supposed to bring women freedom to do and not do what they wanted. So I have no problem with women using cosmetics if they want to.

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By: cindy http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/09/07/the_desi_girl_d/comment-page-2/#comment-248019 cindy Tue, 15 Sep 2009 01:45:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5933#comment-248019 <blockquote>I take exception to that characterization. I was neither exaggerating about that pathetic situation nor was I being self-righteous when I related what I (sadly) know to be true. I'm glad you don't know anyone "like that". I wish I didn't. :(</blockquote> <p>Ok, fair enough, I just get sick of people generalizing all these negative traits onto the desi community when I haven't personally experienced things like that, because I've seen that it only serves to justify other people's negative perceptions of us.</p> <blockquote>How does the Feminist movement view makeup and cosmetic enhancement of physical attributes? Does it consider it an empowering process or acts of conformity to masculine norms of beauty and femininity?</blockquote> <p>My response to this is honestly, "Who cares?" I don't mean it in a disrespectful way, I really just think that women should be left alone to try to improve their looks and be women if they want to, without having to worry about whether they're setting womankind back or not (especially if they admit to <em>gasp</em> wanting a man). Yeah it can be a big advantage if you're a hot woman, it can also be a big disadvantage if you're an ugly girl. Life's not fair. As for social norms of beauty and femininity, while some things are culturally based, most measures of beauty (namely youth) are rooted in biology.</p> I take exception to that characterization. I was neither exaggerating about that pathetic situation nor was I being self-righteous when I related what I (sadly) know to be true. I’m glad you don’t know anyone “like that”. I wish I didn’t. :(

Ok, fair enough, I just get sick of people generalizing all these negative traits onto the desi community when I haven’t personally experienced things like that, because I’ve seen that it only serves to justify other people’s negative perceptions of us.

How does the Feminist movement view makeup and cosmetic enhancement of physical attributes? Does it consider it an empowering process or acts of conformity to masculine norms of beauty and femininity?

My response to this is honestly, “Who cares?” I don’t mean it in a disrespectful way, I really just think that women should be left alone to try to improve their looks and be women if they want to, without having to worry about whether they’re setting womankind back or not (especially if they admit to gasp wanting a man). Yeah it can be a big advantage if you’re a hot woman, it can also be a big disadvantage if you’re an ugly girl. Life’s not fair. As for social norms of beauty and femininity, while some things are culturally based, most measures of beauty (namely youth) are rooted in biology.

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By: Lupus Solitarius http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/09/07/the_desi_girl_d/comment-page-2/#comment-247867 Lupus Solitarius Mon, 14 Sep 2009 03:05:42 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5933#comment-247867 <p>Sorry... This is what I wanted my previous comment to look like...</p> <blockquote>For those who are asking why women spend so much time and money on make-up ... well, let's be honest, appearance matters for everyone in society. Pretty people have the upper hand in most situations. Especially women who are seeking male mates, since men place so much emphasis on beauty in a mate</blockquote> <p>How does the Feminist movement view makeup and cosmetic enhancement of physical attributes? Does it consider it an empowering process or acts of conformity to masculine norms of beauty and femininity?</p> Sorry… This is what I wanted my previous comment to look like…

For those who are asking why women spend so much time and money on make-up … well, let’s be honest, appearance matters for everyone in society. Pretty people have the upper hand in most situations. Especially women who are seeking male mates, since men place so much emphasis on beauty in a mate

How does the Feminist movement view makeup and cosmetic enhancement of physical attributes? Does it consider it an empowering process or acts of conformity to masculine norms of beauty and femininity?

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By: Lupus Solitarius http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/09/07/the_desi_girl_d/comment-page-2/#comment-247866 Lupus Solitarius Mon, 14 Sep 2009 02:58:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5933#comment-247866 <p><</p> <p>blockquote>For those who are asking why women spend so much time and money on make-up ... well, let's be honest, appearance matters for everyone in society. Pretty people have the upper hand in most situations. Especially women who are seeking male mates, since men place so much emphasis on beauty in a mate</blockquote</p> <p>How does the Feminist movement view makeup and cosmetic enhancement of physical attributes? Does it consider it an empowering process or acts of conformity to masculine norms of beauty and femininity?</p> <

blockquote>For those who are asking why women spend so much time and money on make-up … well, let’s be honest, appearance matters for everyone in society. Pretty people have the upper hand in most situations. Especially women who are seeking male mates, since men place so much emphasis on beauty in a mate

How does the Feminist movement view makeup and cosmetic enhancement of physical attributes? Does it consider it an empowering process or acts of conformity to masculine norms of beauty and femininity?

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By: A N N A http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/09/07/the_desi_girl_d/comment-page-2/#comment-247865 A N N A Mon, 14 Sep 2009 01:44:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5933#comment-247865 <p>Monalisa, thank you for the update on Fashion Fair! :) That packaging looks WAY better. As for Vasanti, I haven't tried it yet; I haven't seen it at my local Sephora, Blue Mercury, Saks, Nordstrom etc, so I haven't had the opportunity to play with it. Upon reflection, I haven't seen Fashion Fair anywhere recently, either. Re: Real Cosmetics-- I love supporting other Desis who are making their dreams come true, but I'm not going to buy underwhelming makeup (more than once) to do it. Maybe all of her stuff has been updated now and it's awesome, I sincerely hope so. And to answer your question, I don't care WHO makes it, if a product is awesome, I will line up to buy it, whether it's Iman or Jeanine Lobell who is selling it. :)</p> <p>As for this, Cindy:</p> <blockquote>I think whoever said it upthread exaggerated too self-righteously when they talked about how desis don't like to use products catered towards blacks. I don't know anyone like that,</blockquote> <p>I take exception to that characterization. I was neither exaggerating about that pathetic situation nor was I being self-righteous when I related what I (sadly) know to be true. I'm glad you don't know anyone "like that". I <i>wish</i> I didn't. :(</p> Monalisa, thank you for the update on Fashion Fair! :) That packaging looks WAY better. As for Vasanti, I haven’t tried it yet; I haven’t seen it at my local Sephora, Blue Mercury, Saks, Nordstrom etc, so I haven’t had the opportunity to play with it. Upon reflection, I haven’t seen Fashion Fair anywhere recently, either. Re: Real Cosmetics– I love supporting other Desis who are making their dreams come true, but I’m not going to buy underwhelming makeup (more than once) to do it. Maybe all of her stuff has been updated now and it’s awesome, I sincerely hope so. And to answer your question, I don’t care WHO makes it, if a product is awesome, I will line up to buy it, whether it’s Iman or Jeanine Lobell who is selling it. :)

As for this, Cindy:

I think whoever said it upthread exaggerated too self-righteously when they talked about how desis don’t like to use products catered towards blacks. I don’t know anyone like that,

I take exception to that characterization. I was neither exaggerating about that pathetic situation nor was I being self-righteous when I related what I (sadly) know to be true. I’m glad you don’t know anyone “like that”. I wish I didn’t. :(

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