Comments on: How about those of us who aren’t famous http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/15/how_about_those/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Muslim But Not "KHAN" http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/15/how_about_those/comment-page-1/#comment-252456 Muslim But Not "KHAN" Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:43:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5902#comment-252456 <p>"Brown"??</p> <p>For all you USA haters there is not credibilty to you! This is by far hands down or up the BEST COUNTRY in the world - PERIOD! You obey law and pull no stunt and answer the authority when asked flat truth you will be free as one can be in USA! Sad to say but India don't stay a showdow of a chance to be upright vs USA! My name is Khan will be a Big Flop in USA! We will see to it! How do desis act when your local (Indian) police takes you in for whatever reason? Saab, Bribe, Kiss, act nice but when it comes to the US authorities you all B+tch! Khan or Johar the real stnt pullers! Stop that nonsense! No more Bovine Slump!</p> “Brown”??

For all you USA haters there is not credibilty to you! This is by far hands down or up the BEST COUNTRY in the world – PERIOD! You obey law and pull no stunt and answer the authority when asked flat truth you will be free as one can be in USA! Sad to say but India don’t stay a showdow of a chance to be upright vs USA! My name is Khan will be a Big Flop in USA! We will see to it! How do desis act when your local (Indian) police takes you in for whatever reason? Saab, Bribe, Kiss, act nice but when it comes to the US authorities you all B+tch! Khan or Johar the real stnt pullers! Stop that nonsense! No more Bovine Slump!

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By: gem http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/15/how_about_those/comment-page-1/#comment-246742 gem Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:49:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5902#comment-246742 <p>This may or may not be a case of racial profiling. It could be both. I'm glad that as a celebrity he didn't get special treatment.</p> <p>Lizzie and PS you both are spot on. The hypocrisy of Bollywood actors complaining about racism in the West is beyond nervy.</p> <blockquote>Aww Lizzi, It's the same relativism again here, eh? "Bollywood" might stereotype minorities, but "Bollywood" was not stopped at EWR, but SRK was. So unless you have proof that SRK is racist, I suggest you get off your high horse. And secondly Hollywood is equally if not more racist. Maybe you should read how Salma Hayek was treated by Hollywood before you start posting cr@p.</blockquote> <p>Desi Dude I don't see how Bollywood not being stopped at EWR proves it's not racist. Plus Bollywood is <i>way </i>more racist than Hollywood. I'm surprised that someone would have the gumption to say the opposite. At least people of different races and complexiones are represented in Hollywood and have a chance of success whereas in Bollywood you have absolutely <i>no </i>chance of making it if you're darker than "wheatish." Bollywood is also clanish with more restricted access than Hollywood.</p> <p>Furthermore, Hollywood isn't trying to be something it's not while Bollywood simply as its name implies and the physical looks it favors (i.e. European features with light eyes) is imitating the former (regarding the actors' looks that is). I don't see how the self hatred in that can be any more obvious. As for SRK, one doesn't need much proof to see the integrity of someone who promotes bleaching cream as the key to sucess for a dark-skinned nation. If you still can't see the connection between bleaching cream and racism than look up the history of colonialism, how it has affected global beauty standards and why dark-skinned nations see their complexion as inferior in the first place. What was inapproprate was comparing tanning salons to bleaching cream which does not have the same historial baggage.</p> <p>PS: Don't claim that most Indians are "wheatish" to justify Bollywood's racist exclusivity because 1. there is no average Indian complexion. I'm tired of Indians saying that. Indians come in all colors and 2. basing looks on skin color is just plain prejudice and has nothing to do with acting skills or attractiveness.</p> This may or may not be a case of racial profiling. It could be both. I’m glad that as a celebrity he didn’t get special treatment.

Lizzie and PS you both are spot on. The hypocrisy of Bollywood actors complaining about racism in the West is beyond nervy.

Aww Lizzi, It’s the same relativism again here, eh? “Bollywood” might stereotype minorities, but “Bollywood” was not stopped at EWR, but SRK was. So unless you have proof that SRK is racist, I suggest you get off your high horse. And secondly Hollywood is equally if not more racist. Maybe you should read how Salma Hayek was treated by Hollywood before you start posting cr@p.

Desi Dude I don’t see how Bollywood not being stopped at EWR proves it’s not racist. Plus Bollywood is way more racist than Hollywood. I’m surprised that someone would have the gumption to say the opposite. At least people of different races and complexiones are represented in Hollywood and have a chance of success whereas in Bollywood you have absolutely no chance of making it if you’re darker than “wheatish.” Bollywood is also clanish with more restricted access than Hollywood.

Furthermore, Hollywood isn’t trying to be something it’s not while Bollywood simply as its name implies and the physical looks it favors (i.e. European features with light eyes) is imitating the former (regarding the actors’ looks that is). I don’t see how the self hatred in that can be any more obvious. As for SRK, one doesn’t need much proof to see the integrity of someone who promotes bleaching cream as the key to sucess for a dark-skinned nation. If you still can’t see the connection between bleaching cream and racism than look up the history of colonialism, how it has affected global beauty standards and why dark-skinned nations see their complexion as inferior in the first place. What was inapproprate was comparing tanning salons to bleaching cream which does not have the same historial baggage.

PS: Don’t claim that most Indians are “wheatish” to justify Bollywood’s racist exclusivity because 1. there is no average Indian complexion. I’m tired of Indians saying that. Indians come in all colors and 2. basing looks on skin color is just plain prejudice and has nothing to do with acting skills or attractiveness.

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By: Carol http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/15/how_about_those/comment-page-1/#comment-246476 Carol Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:36:38 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5902#comment-246476 <p>Priyanka Chopra needs to STFU or maybe go get more plastic surgery, fairness cream, hair extensions and acrylic nails.</p> <p>She has the nerve to talk about racism after the blatantly racist scene in her movie fashion where sleeping with a black guy was portrayed as lowest an Indian woman could go.</p> <p>As for SRK, he is a loudmouthed attention seeker who has an inflated sense of his importance in the world. The big baby is crying over being detained for 66 minutes while they checked his credentials. Note to SRK there are more important issues currently than you being delayed for an hour.</p> Priyanka Chopra needs to STFU or maybe go get more plastic surgery, fairness cream, hair extensions and acrylic nails.

She has the nerve to talk about racism after the blatantly racist scene in her movie fashion where sleeping with a black guy was portrayed as lowest an Indian woman could go.

As for SRK, he is a loudmouthed attention seeker who has an inflated sense of his importance in the world. The big baby is crying over being detained for 66 minutes while they checked his credentials. Note to SRK there are more important issues currently than you being delayed for an hour.

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By: Ikram http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/15/how_about_those/comment-page-1/#comment-246390 Ikram Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:37:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5902#comment-246390 <p>Vancouver's own Suki Dillon wrote: <i>USA is far better than all countries in the world as far as race relations go. </i></p> <p>Why the hate for our home <strike>on</strike>and native land? Here in Canada, brownz are welcomed with open arms. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Dzieka%C5%84ski_Taser_incident">Angry Polish immigrants </a>-- not so much.</p> Vancouver’s own Suki Dillon wrote: USA is far better than all countries in the world as far as race relations go.

Why the hate for our home onand native land? Here in Canada, brownz are welcomed with open arms. Angry Polish immigrants – not so much.

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By: times they are a changin' http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/15/how_about_those/comment-page-1/#comment-246371 times they are a changin' Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:04:34 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5902#comment-246371 <p>"Indians have such beautiful olive skin. Why, why, why ruin it with those fairness creams?" I agree--it's a dumb product, but "Indians" may have any color of skin, just about, from white to black to all shades in between. Your idea of "olive" may be different from that of, say, a Spaniard or a Lebanese. and to my British colleague, Catherine Zeta Jones is "olive" skinned (!?). A certain nice shade of medium brown (strong wheatish?), made for intense sunny climes, is most common among desis, in most areas. Might be an interesting study to determine just who really is using it. I never knew of anyone of my acquaintance employing such artifice. If they are worried about color at all, they don't carry it beyond sunscreen.</p> “Indians have such beautiful olive skin. Why, why, why ruin it with those fairness creams?” I agree–it’s a dumb product, but “Indians” may have any color of skin, just about, from white to black to all shades in between. Your idea of “olive” may be different from that of, say, a Spaniard or a Lebanese. and to my British colleague, Catherine Zeta Jones is “olive” skinned (!?). A certain nice shade of medium brown (strong wheatish?), made for intense sunny climes, is most common among desis, in most areas. Might be an interesting study to determine just who really is using it. I never knew of anyone of my acquaintance employing such artifice. If they are worried about color at all, they don’t carry it beyond sunscreen.

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By: Brahmastr http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/15/how_about_those/comment-page-1/#comment-246367 Brahmastr Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:29:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5902#comment-246367 <ul> <li>America funds the Pakistani military and enables them to conduct terror against India : Minimal outrage in India</li> <li>America adds India to a "religion watchlist" while excluding more blatant violators : Minimal outrage in India</li> <li>Filmstar gets questioned for an hour : Suddenly everyone's red in their face and outraged</li> </ul> <p>Fellow Indians, get your priorities straight - There is a lot to be outraged about and this should be last in the list</p>
  • America funds the Pakistani military and enables them to conduct terror against India : Minimal outrage in India
  • America adds India to a “religion watchlist” while excluding more blatant violators : Minimal outrage in India
  • Filmstar gets questioned for an hour : Suddenly everyone’s red in their face and outraged
  • Fellow Indians, get your priorities straight – There is a lot to be outraged about and this should be last in the list

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    By: wunderbar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/15/how_about_those/comment-page-1/#comment-246343 wunderbar Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:16:47 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5902#comment-246343 <p><i>Priyanka Chopra saying that SRK is a world star is hilarious. 99% of Americans have probably never heard of the guy.</i></p> <p>Well yes. But I heard on CNN that much of the world lives outside America. Could this be true ?</p> Priyanka Chopra saying that SRK is a world star is hilarious. 99% of Americans have probably never heard of the guy.

    Well yes. But I heard on CNN that much of the world lives outside America. Could this be true ?

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    By: ke http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/15/how_about_those/comment-page-1/#comment-246341 ke Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:22:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5902#comment-246341 <p>Priyanka Chopra saying that SRK is a world star is hilarious. 99% of Americans have probably never heard of the guy. Maybe a third world star, but that's it. And let's face it..there is a difference in terms of the status given to hollywood stars vs. those given to bollywood stars. Outside of India and Pakistan, are these guys really that famous? Yes, in England with the large diasporan community maybe, but SRK is nowhere near as famous as MJ or even P.Diddy or Brad Pitt. Does he think he is well known to Americans?</p> <p>On Fairness cream: Indians have such beautiful olive skin. Why, why, why ruin it with those fairness creams?</p> Priyanka Chopra saying that SRK is a world star is hilarious. 99% of Americans have probably never heard of the guy. Maybe a third world star, but that’s it. And let’s face it..there is a difference in terms of the status given to hollywood stars vs. those given to bollywood stars. Outside of India and Pakistan, are these guys really that famous? Yes, in England with the large diasporan community maybe, but SRK is nowhere near as famous as MJ or even P.Diddy or Brad Pitt. Does he think he is well known to Americans?

    On Fairness cream: Indians have such beautiful olive skin. Why, why, why ruin it with those fairness creams?

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    By: times they are a changin' http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/15/how_about_those/comment-page-1/#comment-246335 times they are a changin' Tue, 18 Aug 2009 02:41:38 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5902#comment-246335 <p>"As for light eyes, they used to be considered cat-like and untrustworthy...." While I know you are just quoting folklore and not necessarily you're own beliefs, I think it best to leave cats (and latterly, macaques) out of the aesthetic phenotypical debate. Dogs have soulful brown eyes, but they haven't fared well in India either. The poor creatures have been subjected to much oppression and prejudice over the centuries. Cats are not "untrustworthy." They are cats, and as such are quite predictable. As Shyamalan might say, "they can't help it if they SEE things." Only humans have the prerogative to be untrustworthy and anyone who thinks green eyes indicate untrustworthiness is in imminent danger of being a Racist AND an Aish hater. I hate it when people drag animals into human squabbles. They don't care which one has yellow or black fur. At least I don't think they do.</p> “As for light eyes, they used to be considered cat-like and untrustworthy….” While I know you are just quoting folklore and not necessarily you’re own beliefs, I think it best to leave cats (and latterly, macaques) out of the aesthetic phenotypical debate. Dogs have soulful brown eyes, but they haven’t fared well in India either. The poor creatures have been subjected to much oppression and prejudice over the centuries. Cats are not “untrustworthy.” They are cats, and as such are quite predictable. As Shyamalan might say, “they can’t help it if they SEE things.” Only humans have the prerogative to be untrustworthy and anyone who thinks green eyes indicate untrustworthiness is in imminent danger of being a Racist AND an Aish hater. I hate it when people drag animals into human squabbles. They don’t care which one has yellow or black fur. At least I don’t think they do.

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    By: Upbhransh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/15/how_about_those/comment-page-1/#comment-246320 Upbhransh Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:58:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5902#comment-246320 <p>I am not sure where my post gives the hint of jealousy or self hatred or whatever fair and lovely thing.. my point being that this is too much of a co incidence. He was asked to wait because his baggage didn't arrive and he was questioned. I am sure it must have been an inconvenience but from whatever I have read so far, it doesn't seem like that he was harassed or anything.</p> <p>I don't think its a matter of corruption on behalf of customs but just a case of getting a chance to feel discriminated and just cashing it to one's benefit.</p> <p>My frustration comes from the fact that SRK is too big of a star to resort to such things to drum publicity for his movie.</p> I am not sure where my post gives the hint of jealousy or self hatred or whatever fair and lovely thing.. my point being that this is too much of a co incidence. He was asked to wait because his baggage didn’t arrive and he was questioned. I am sure it must have been an inconvenience but from whatever I have read so far, it doesn’t seem like that he was harassed or anything.

    I don’t think its a matter of corruption on behalf of customs but just a case of getting a chance to feel discriminated and just cashing it to one’s benefit.

    My frustration comes from the fact that SRK is too big of a star to resort to such things to drum publicity for his movie.

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