Comments on: Lobby of One http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/11/lobby_of_one/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Manpreet http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/11/lobby_of_one/comment-page-1/#comment-245815 Manpreet Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:31:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5892#comment-245815 <p>While I despise Modi and his ilk, I don't understand why he is singled out for the visa denial, especially when leaders from other parts of the world, whose hands are bloodier than Modis are granted American visas. Why was there no hue and cry by the concerned about Gen.Musharaf's visa: after all he did instigate a war in Kargil, and helped America bomb Pakistan's border areas, in which hundreds of Muslims were killed, and are still dying. Such hypocrisy - when Modi was denied the visa for the first time, the person living in the white house and his secretary of state were responsible for the the deaths of hundreds of thousands of muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan. Heck even Barack Obama is responsible for the death of hundreds of Muslims so far: every time he signs an executive order to bomb civilian area in Pakistan and Afghanistan, innocent Muslim children, women and men die; every day he allows the war in Iraq and Afghanistan to continue, innocent Muslims die. And lest we forget American visa holders, Putin and Hu, who, too, are complicit in the murder of innocent Muslims in the thousands.</p> While I despise Modi and his ilk, I don’t understand why he is singled out for the visa denial, especially when leaders from other parts of the world, whose hands are bloodier than Modis are granted American visas. Why was there no hue and cry by the concerned about Gen.Musharaf’s visa: after all he did instigate a war in Kargil, and helped America bomb Pakistan’s border areas, in which hundreds of Muslims were killed, and are still dying. Such hypocrisy – when Modi was denied the visa for the first time, the person living in the white house and his secretary of state were responsible for the the deaths of hundreds of thousands of muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan. Heck even Barack Obama is responsible for the death of hundreds of Muslims so far: every time he signs an executive order to bomb civilian area in Pakistan and Afghanistan, innocent Muslim children, women and men die; every day he allows the war in Iraq and Afghanistan to continue, innocent Muslims die. And lest we forget American visa holders, Putin and Hu, who, too, are complicit in the murder of innocent Muslims in the thousands.

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By: rob http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/11/lobby_of_one/comment-page-1/#comment-245810 rob Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:03:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5892#comment-245810 <h1>41: That would be correct--I <i>can't</i> understand. Some people count; others don't. Read your history. Y3 FTW.</h1> 41: That would be correct–I can’t understand. Some people count; others don’t. Read your history. Y3 FTW.]]> By: Pagal_Aadmi_for_debauchery http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/11/lobby_of_one/comment-page-1/#comment-245809 Pagal_Aadmi_for_debauchery Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:01:57 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5892#comment-245809 <h1>40: I did not see any Iraqis or Afghanis protest Modi's visa. Maybe you cannot comprehend why a mass murder accomplice like Modi's entry to the US might not pass muster with the State Department for reasons apart from placating Those-Whose-Name-Must-Not-Be-Spoken.</h1> 40: I did not see any Iraqis or Afghanis protest Modi’s visa. Maybe you cannot comprehend why a mass murder accomplice like Modi’s entry to the US might not pass muster with the State Department for reasons apart from placating Those-Whose-Name-Must-Not-Be-Spoken.]]> By: rob http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/11/lobby_of_one/comment-page-1/#comment-245807 rob Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:39:28 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5892#comment-245807 <blockquote>UNINPAC mostly exists to whet the paranoid fantasies of the Hinduvta brigade in the US. I am sure they have no problems with crazed loons like Sadhvi Rithambara who is is going to visit the US shortly and efforts are underway to have her visa cancelled.</blockquote> <p>Yes, the USA is funny that way--we will placate Those-Whose-Name-Must-Not-Be-Spoken for a while (by, e.g., refusing Modi or Rithambara a visa), then bomb them to smithereens w/out so much as a declaration of war. I'm lovin' it. >:-p</p> UNINPAC mostly exists to whet the paranoid fantasies of the Hinduvta brigade in the US. I am sure they have no problems with crazed loons like Sadhvi Rithambara who is is going to visit the US shortly and efforts are underway to have her visa cancelled.

Yes, the USA is funny that way–we will placate Those-Whose-Name-Must-Not-Be-Spoken for a while (by, e.g., refusing Modi or Rithambara a visa), then bomb them to smithereens w/out so much as a declaration of war. I’m lovin’ it. >:-p

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By: zee http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/11/lobby_of_one/comment-page-1/#comment-245806 zee Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:27:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5892#comment-245806 <blockquote>Africa: it is a country with amazing diversity with countries doing better than some of the South Asian countries, esp wrt to democracy.</blockquote> <p>dang! I meant 'Africa is a <em>continent</em> with amazing diversity and with countries....'.</p> Africa: it is a country with amazing diversity with countries doing better than some of the South Asian countries, esp wrt to democracy.

dang! I meant ‘Africa is a continent with amazing diversity and with countries….’.

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By: Manju http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/11/lobby_of_one/comment-page-1/#comment-245805 Manju Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:21:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5892#comment-245805 <blockquote>I don't know how indian egos were "assuaged" by Hilary's visit to the most impoverished regions of the world: India, Africa and Indonesia. Clinton has spent a lot more time in Africa than she did in India. That should tell you what americans think of India.</blockquote> <p>Prema: Africa is a continent so its not comparable to a single country.</p> I don’t know how indian egos were “assuaged” by Hilary’s visit to the most impoverished regions of the world: India, Africa and Indonesia. Clinton has spent a lot more time in Africa than she did in India. That should tell you what americans think of India.

Prema: Africa is a continent so its not comparable to a single country.

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By: Yoga Fire http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/11/lobby_of_one/comment-page-1/#comment-245804 Yoga Fire Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:12:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5892#comment-245804 <blockquote>First, by linking American-desis with the interests and needs of a foreign government, when we have no say and no claim on those governments.</blockquote> <p>Actually, as Indians <a href="http://www.indianembassy.org/policy/pio/introduction_pio.html">we do.</a> I am unsure about other countries in the subcontinent.</p> <p>Jews similarly have the right of aliyah to Israel so they also have a tie to and a claim on its government. That claim may not be as strong as the people there, but it is a connection nonetheless.</p> First, by linking American-desis with the interests and needs of a foreign government, when we have no say and no claim on those governments.

Actually, as Indians we do. I am unsure about other countries in the subcontinent.

Jews similarly have the right of aliyah to Israel so they also have a tie to and a claim on its government. That claim may not be as strong as the people there, but it is a connection nonetheless.

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By: Manpreet http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/11/lobby_of_one/comment-page-1/#comment-245803 Manpreet Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:49:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5892#comment-245803 <p>Bhim - "Clinton has spent a lot more time in Africa than she did in India. That should tell you what americans think of India."</p> <p>Not what Americans think of India, but what Obama thinks of India, which is not much, unfortunately. Hopefully, Indian-Americans who care about U.S.-India relations will donate their hard earned monies to the right candidate in 2012.</p> Bhim – “Clinton has spent a lot more time in Africa than she did in India. That should tell you what americans think of India.”

Not what Americans think of India, but what Obama thinks of India, which is not much, unfortunately. Hopefully, Indian-Americans who care about U.S.-India relations will donate their hard earned monies to the right candidate in 2012.

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By: zee http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/11/lobby_of_one/comment-page-1/#comment-245802 zee Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:37:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5892#comment-245802 <blockquote>I don't know how indian egos were "assuaged" by Hilary's visit to the most impoverished regions of the world: India, Africa and Indonesia.</blockquote> <p>I am just quoting news articles (<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ami-cholia/what-clintons-trip-to-ind_b_248866.html">here</a>, <a href="http://thenews.jang.com.pk/updates.asp?id=82980">here</a>), that refer to symbolism of Hillary's visit to India, while not entering Pakistan. Clinton's visit to different countries was for different reasons: Indonesia, to laud its recent elections. She also visited Thailand, to thank them of little known support this country provided for US military. And don't be so condescending towards Africa: it is a country with amazing diversity with countries doing better than some of the South Asian countries, esp wrt to democracy.</p> <blockquote>Clinton has spent a lot more time in Africa than she did in India. That should tell you what americans think of India.</blockquote> <p>A little too bitter, aren't we about India ?</p> I don’t know how indian egos were “assuaged” by Hilary’s visit to the most impoverished regions of the world: India, Africa and Indonesia.

I am just quoting news articles (here, here), that refer to symbolism of Hillary’s visit to India, while not entering Pakistan. Clinton’s visit to different countries was for different reasons: Indonesia, to laud its recent elections. She also visited Thailand, to thank them of little known support this country provided for US military. And don’t be so condescending towards Africa: it is a country with amazing diversity with countries doing better than some of the South Asian countries, esp wrt to democracy.

Clinton has spent a lot more time in Africa than she did in India. That should tell you what americans think of India.

A little too bitter, aren’t we about India ?

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By: Pagal_Aadmi_for_debauchery http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/11/lobby_of_one/comment-page-1/#comment-245801 Pagal_Aadmi_for_debauchery Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:34:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5892#comment-245801 <p>UNINPAC mostly exists to whet the paranoid fantasies of the Hinduvta brigade in the US. I am sure they have no problems with crazed loons like Sadhvi Rithambara who is is going to visit the US shortly and efforts are underway to have her visa cancelled.</p> UNINPAC mostly exists to whet the paranoid fantasies of the Hinduvta brigade in the US. I am sure they have no problems with crazed loons like Sadhvi Rithambara who is is going to visit the US shortly and efforts are underway to have her visa cancelled.

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