Comments on: The Illest Buddhist http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/04/sickest_buddhis_1/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: louiecypher http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/04/sickest_buddhis_1/comment-page-1/#comment-245244 louiecypher Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:48:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5886#comment-245244 <p>As much as I am annoyed by PG, I do think that sometimes we are too quick to dismiss non-Indian followers of Indic faiths. I would be skeptical of non-Tamils who profess devotion to a deity rooted in a specific geography (e.g Muruga stripped of the Skanda-Kumar association, Mariamman). I get annoyed when I see the hipster set piercing themselves in Malaysia for the adrenaline rush. I would expect European neo-pagans to look askance at me for pouring out some mead to Odin. But adherence to universal philosophies (e.g. Vedanta, or Buddhism) should be accepted as genuine (until demonstrated otherwise). Let's not forget that some of the early patrons of Buddhism in the Gandharan region were ethnically Greek (e.g. Milinda/Menander). And if you count the Tocharians (West Eurasians settled in Chinese Turkestan from at least 1500 BC), Western Buddhists have played a significant part in the transmission of this portable/universally relevant philosophy for some time.</p> As much as I am annoyed by PG, I do think that sometimes we are too quick to dismiss non-Indian followers of Indic faiths. I would be skeptical of non-Tamils who profess devotion to a deity rooted in a specific geography (e.g Muruga stripped of the Skanda-Kumar association, Mariamman). I get annoyed when I see the hipster set piercing themselves in Malaysia for the adrenaline rush. I would expect European neo-pagans to look askance at me for pouring out some mead to Odin. But adherence to universal philosophies (e.g. Vedanta, or Buddhism) should be accepted as genuine (until demonstrated otherwise). Let’s not forget that some of the early patrons of Buddhism in the Gandharan region were ethnically Greek (e.g. Milinda/Menander). And if you count the Tocharians (West Eurasians settled in Chinese Turkestan from at least 1500 BC), Western Buddhists have played a significant part in the transmission of this portable/universally relevant philosophy for some time.

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By: AM http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/04/sickest_buddhis_1/comment-page-1/#comment-245218 AM Wed, 05 Aug 2009 05:01:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5886#comment-245218 <p>Cult Member Turned New Age aka Pardesi gori,</p> <pre><code> I do not think any of your rantings warrant a response. For some one who has been banned from this site, you seem to come back for more trolling. Hopefully the SM intern will ban you again. But then again they probably doesn't have the time and energy to keep track of your screen names and various ip addresses you use. I am writing this comment so that others who might be taken in by your new avatar may save themselves from spending their time responding to you. That is it folks, I am done feeding the troll. </code></pre> Cult Member Turned New Age aka Pardesi gori,

  I do not think any of your rantings warrant a response. For some one who has been banned from this site, you seem to come back for more trolling. Hopefully the SM intern will ban you again. But then again they probably doesn't have the time and energy to keep track of your screen names and various ip addresses you use. I am writing this comment so that others who might be taken in by your new avatar may save themselves from spending their time responding to you. That is it folks, I am done feeding the troll.
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By: half-desi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/04/sickest_buddhis_1/comment-page-1/#comment-245217 half-desi Wed, 05 Aug 2009 04:31:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5886#comment-245217 <p>I sat down and watched this <i>mindfully</i>: hilarious!</p> <p>The Buddhists I know are quite serious in their efforts to practice (e.g. 2x/day meditation) + they're often laughing and laugh easily:)</p> I sat down and watched this mindfully: hilarious!

The Buddhists I know are quite serious in their efforts to practice (e.g. 2x/day meditation) + they’re often laughing and laugh easily:)

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By: boston_mahesh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/04/sickest_buddhis_1/comment-page-1/#comment-245216 boston_mahesh Wed, 05 Aug 2009 04:14:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5886#comment-245216 <p>This reminds me so much of the film "Darjeeling Express." What a classic film which typifies rich, white Americans in search of a speedy enlightenment, as if it were some drug fix or 7-step process.</p> <p>This guy reminds me of so many things around me: the folks at ISKCON and a Whole Foods shopping spree.</p> <p>We have an ISKCON church that's very inconspicuously located in the heart of Boston on Commonwealth Avenue over here. The folks there - both Indian and non-Indian - are losers! One Indian guy clarified to myself and my white-American friends that ISKCON is <em>NOT</em> Hinduism quite emphatically. One white Brahmin priest there was a former military man, and although he seemed nice, recited too many Sanskrit platitudes that meant nothing to me - in Sanskrit AND in English. But their fennel tea was nice...</p> <p>Now, in Boston, we have a Little China, and we have a Little Lhasa called Whole Foods. There, they have successfully monetized the dharmic faiths by selling Karma-this, Buddha-finger lemons, Yogi Tea (created by a New Age Sardar), Odwalla, Moksha-that, Nirvana-flavor-this, and Zen-flavored-that. Folks, all this goodwill to Dharmic religions won't last my friends. The next "Great Spiritual Thing" will be something like Baha'i or Zoroastrianism. So, soon, they'll be selling Ahura Mazda goat cheese and Avestan kababs, and our Moksha Milk Chocolate will be so...'90s. And the best picture of the year will be some mediocre Azeri film.</p> <p>Finally, I went to one of these cultural fairs that are quite frequent in the Greater Boston area, and I was surprised at how some vendors were selling some products/services from a very disjointed array of indigenous backgrounds. For example, one guy was selling stuff that was inspired by Native Americans, Far East China, Japan, India, and even Africa. It was weird, man. This is probably a reaction/expression against Whitey.</p> This reminds me so much of the film “Darjeeling Express.” What a classic film which typifies rich, white Americans in search of a speedy enlightenment, as if it were some drug fix or 7-step process.

This guy reminds me of so many things around me: the folks at ISKCON and a Whole Foods shopping spree.

We have an ISKCON church that’s very inconspicuously located in the heart of Boston on Commonwealth Avenue over here. The folks there – both Indian and non-Indian – are losers! One Indian guy clarified to myself and my white-American friends that ISKCON is NOT Hinduism quite emphatically. One white Brahmin priest there was a former military man, and although he seemed nice, recited too many Sanskrit platitudes that meant nothing to me – in Sanskrit AND in English. But their fennel tea was nice…

Now, in Boston, we have a Little China, and we have a Little Lhasa called Whole Foods. There, they have successfully monetized the dharmic faiths by selling Karma-this, Buddha-finger lemons, Yogi Tea (created by a New Age Sardar), Odwalla, Moksha-that, Nirvana-flavor-this, and Zen-flavored-that. Folks, all this goodwill to Dharmic religions won’t last my friends. The next “Great Spiritual Thing” will be something like Baha’i or Zoroastrianism. So, soon, they’ll be selling Ahura Mazda goat cheese and Avestan kababs, and our Moksha Milk Chocolate will be so…’90s. And the best picture of the year will be some mediocre Azeri film.

Finally, I went to one of these cultural fairs that are quite frequent in the Greater Boston area, and I was surprised at how some vendors were selling some products/services from a very disjointed array of indigenous backgrounds. For example, one guy was selling stuff that was inspired by Native Americans, Far East China, Japan, India, and even Africa. It was weird, man. This is probably a reaction/expression against Whitey.

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By: Zora http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/04/sickest_buddhis_1/comment-page-1/#comment-245215 Zora Wed, 05 Aug 2009 03:25:57 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5886#comment-245215 <p>Data point. I've been practicing Zen Buddhism (in an, alas, intermittent fashion) for 40 years; I thought the video was hilarious. I sent it to several members of my local Zen group.</p> <p>We're in Honolulu, so our group is a mix of haoles (whites) and local Asian-Americans. One desi member, who's an off-and-on participant. I sit next to him at potlucks and we talk about Indian politics and Carnatic music, about which he knows a LOT more than I do.</p> Data point. I’ve been practicing Zen Buddhism (in an, alas, intermittent fashion) for 40 years; I thought the video was hilarious. I sent it to several members of my local Zen group.

We’re in Honolulu, so our group is a mix of haoles (whites) and local Asian-Americans. One desi member, who’s an off-and-on participant. I sit next to him at potlucks and we talk about Indian politics and Carnatic music, about which he knows a LOT more than I do.

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By: Cult Member Turned New Age http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/04/sickest_buddhis_1/comment-page-1/#comment-245214 Cult Member Turned New Age Wed, 05 Aug 2009 03:17:30 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5886#comment-245214 <blockquote>It is hard enough to deal with her oozing disapproval of everything that is desi but for the ISKCON induced ideas </blockquote> <p>ISKCON induced ideas? Gag.</p> <p>I disapprove of them as much as anything else.</p> <p>ISKCON is obsessively and aggressively <u><b>anti</b></u> new-age.</p> <p>Or are you so Desi that you paint all videsis as the "same"? New-age/old-age, ISKCON/PISSCON ???</p> <p>We are all the same to you or what, yaar?</p> It is hard enough to deal with her oozing disapproval of everything that is desi but for the ISKCON induced ideas

ISKCON induced ideas? Gag.

I disapprove of them as much as anything else.

ISKCON is obsessively and aggressively anti new-age.

Or are you so Desi that you paint all videsis as the “same”? New-age/old-age, ISKCON/PISSCON ???

We are all the same to you or what, yaar?

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By: AM http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/04/sickest_buddhis_1/comment-page-1/#comment-245211 AM Wed, 05 Aug 2009 03:06:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5886#comment-245211 <p>Why do people keep entertaining pardesi gori or PG or Cult Member Turned New Age or whatever it is that she/he/it is calling herself/himself/itself. It is hard enough to deal with her oozing disapproval of everything that is desi but for the ISKCON induced ideas when she was using a single screenname, do we have to respond to her different online avatars with a thought out response?</p> Why do people keep entertaining pardesi gori or PG or Cult Member Turned New Age or whatever it is that she/he/it is calling herself/himself/itself. It is hard enough to deal with her oozing disapproval of everything that is desi but for the ISKCON induced ideas when she was using a single screenname, do we have to respond to her different online avatars with a thought out response?

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By: Cult Member Turned New Age http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/04/sickest_buddhis_1/comment-page-1/#comment-245209 Cult Member Turned New Age Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:08:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5886#comment-245209 <blockquote>How come there was no mention of Richard Gere? Or gerbils? And "when it comes to modesty, I got it goin on"?? Really? Wasn't that done like 50 years ago? That apart, this song really opened my eyes about pop-Buddhism. Thank goodness I am doing something more meaningful with my life, like joining the "Free Tibet" group on Facebook. YEAH!</blockquote> <p>Touche!</p> <p>And LOL to the folks here who berate me for daring to question the great Dalai Lama. Ooooooh.</p> <p>Yoga props are nothing more than tools to make your stretches deeper. They can be bought second hand on E-bay for dirt cheap (or just use stuff from home or the garbage in place of the actual props). There is a way to live in this land on a very low budget and people like me (non-Desi, non-yuppie, non-wealthy) do it everyday. We certainly DO NOT NEED rich Desi yuppies telling us that we are corny consumerists just because we use might use props in a yoga-asana routine.</p> <p>Desi, please.</p> <p>Now go twitter about this or something.</p> How come there was no mention of Richard Gere? Or gerbils? And “when it comes to modesty, I got it goin on”?? Really? Wasn’t that done like 50 years ago? That apart, this song really opened my eyes about pop-Buddhism. Thank goodness I am doing something more meaningful with my life, like joining the “Free Tibet” group on Facebook. YEAH!

Touche!

And LOL to the folks here who berate me for daring to question the great Dalai Lama. Ooooooh.

Yoga props are nothing more than tools to make your stretches deeper. They can be bought second hand on E-bay for dirt cheap (or just use stuff from home or the garbage in place of the actual props). There is a way to live in this land on a very low budget and people like me (non-Desi, non-yuppie, non-wealthy) do it everyday. We certainly DO NOT NEED rich Desi yuppies telling us that we are corny consumerists just because we use might use props in a yoga-asana routine.

Desi, please.

Now go twitter about this or something.

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By: Rahul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/04/sickest_buddhis_1/comment-page-1/#comment-245207 Rahul Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:01:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5886#comment-245207 <p>How come there was no mention of Richard Gere? Or gerbils? And "when it comes to modesty, I got it goin on"?? Really? Wasn't that done like 50 years ago?</p> <p>That apart, this song really opened my eyes about pop-Buddhism. Thank goodness I am doing something more meaningful with my life, like joining the "Free Tibet" group on Facebook. YEAH!</p> How come there was no mention of Richard Gere? Or gerbils? And “when it comes to modesty, I got it goin on”?? Really? Wasn’t that done like 50 years ago?

That apart, this song really opened my eyes about pop-Buddhism. Thank goodness I am doing something more meaningful with my life, like joining the “Free Tibet” group on Facebook. YEAH!

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By: LinZi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/08/04/sickest_buddhis_1/comment-page-1/#comment-245206 LinZi Wed, 05 Aug 2009 00:57:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5886#comment-245206 <p>"Yoga bands, bricks, outfits, something, something that cost a fortune. That's what's unhealthy about it. No self-respecting yoga practitioner needs accoutrements. Just like no self-respecting person needs a pre-packaged lifestyle."</p> <p>Well that's where American culture is all about buying the proper accoutrement to maintain the appropriate lifestyle... seeking meaning through accoutrements... ends in a bunch of unhappy people with houses full of junk.</p> “Yoga bands, bricks, outfits, something, something that cost a fortune. That’s what’s unhealthy about it. No self-respecting yoga practitioner needs accoutrements. Just like no self-respecting person needs a pre-packaged lifestyle.”

Well that’s where American culture is all about buying the proper accoutrement to maintain the appropriate lifestyle… seeking meaning through accoutrements… ends in a bunch of unhappy people with houses full of junk.

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