Comments on: Up the Taqx Near You! http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/07/21/up_the_taqx_nea/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: wunderbar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/07/21/up_the_taqx_nea/comment-page-1/#comment-244610 wunderbar Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:40:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5866#comment-244610 <p>From The Unbearable burden of meanness: <i> If this punk rock band were of any other religion, these comments would not be so mean spirited. </i></p> <p>TUBOM, I do hear what you are saying. I read that comment of yours exactly as I was wondering what the fashionable liberal reaction to a punk band singing "Hindutva in the USA" would be. I would like to think it would be ...ummm.... less charitably received.</p> <p>I certainly wish the band well. I found their Pakistan tour interesting but somewhat self-defeating. The fact is that South Asian society - whether India, Pakistan or Bangladesh - has had its own homegrown subversive culture since forever. For instance, we don't have a gay underground, we have the Hijra tradition instead. We don't have pothead hippies, we have babas and holy men. And so on.</p> <p>In such a milieu perhaps they could have found a culturally appropriate way to communicate their message instead of donning T-shirts and playing guitars. Doing that is only going to get them upperclass Westernised followers, not hardy sons of the working class soil.</p> From The Unbearable burden of meanness: If this punk rock band were of any other religion, these comments would not be so mean spirited.

TUBOM, I do hear what you are saying. I read that comment of yours exactly as I was wondering what the fashionable liberal reaction to a punk band singing “Hindutva in the USA” would be. I would like to think it would be …ummm…. less charitably received.

I certainly wish the band well. I found their Pakistan tour interesting but somewhat self-defeating. The fact is that South Asian society – whether India, Pakistan or Bangladesh – has had its own homegrown subversive culture since forever. For instance, we don’t have a gay underground, we have the Hijra tradition instead. We don’t have pothead hippies, we have babas and holy men. And so on.

In such a milieu perhaps they could have found a culturally appropriate way to communicate their message instead of donning T-shirts and playing guitars. Doing that is only going to get them upperclass Westernised followers, not hardy sons of the working class soil.

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By: ambi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/07/21/up_the_taqx_nea/comment-page-1/#comment-244528 ambi Fri, 24 Jul 2009 03:33:02 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5866#comment-244528 <blockquote>Another thing to consider: Everyone thought MIA was weird too, and then all of a sudden she was a superstar</blockquote> <p>Amardeep, the difference was that MIA had / has talent, originality and swagger.</p> Another thing to consider: Everyone thought MIA was weird too, and then all of a sudden she was a superstar

Amardeep, the difference was that MIA had / has talent, originality and swagger.

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By: Manju http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/07/21/up_the_taqx_nea/comment-page-1/#comment-244495 Manju Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:18:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5866#comment-244495 <blockquote>That said, they are also protesting the authoritarian turn of U.S. policy during the Bush administration, which I think is completely legitimate. You can be pissed about Guantanamo Bay, warrantless wiretapping, torture, an unwarranted war. If you're a Muslim youth in the U.S. growing up during these years, you might be more pissed about it than some other folks have been. It's not that different from when the Dead Kennedys wrote a song called "California Uber Alles" or Reagan Youth's song "Reagan Youth" . </blockquote> <p>The dkennedys aren't being ironic, rather godwinish hyperbolic. They're intentionally conflating reagan with hitler. these guys are instead putting themselves in the shoes of the islamist, not their target (bush). its more like a punk protesting the bombing of dresden by taking on the persona of an auschwitz guard. creepy, no?</p> <p>the kominas strike me as the bonzo in "bonzo goes to bitburg"</p> That said, they are also protesting the authoritarian turn of U.S. policy during the Bush administration, which I think is completely legitimate. You can be pissed about Guantanamo Bay, warrantless wiretapping, torture, an unwarranted war. If you’re a Muslim youth in the U.S. growing up during these years, you might be more pissed about it than some other folks have been. It’s not that different from when the Dead Kennedys wrote a song called “California Uber Alles” or Reagan Youth’s song “Reagan Youth” .

The dkennedys aren’t being ironic, rather godwinish hyperbolic. They’re intentionally conflating reagan with hitler. these guys are instead putting themselves in the shoes of the islamist, not their target (bush). its more like a punk protesting the bombing of dresden by taking on the persona of an auschwitz guard. creepy, no?

the kominas strike me as the bonzo in “bonzo goes to bitburg”

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By: CMF http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/07/21/up_the_taqx_nea/comment-page-1/#comment-244469 CMF Thu, 23 Jul 2009 04:44:28 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5866#comment-244469 <p>Don't have time to bother with all the tangential comments above.</p> <p>But as a Hindu who is into the hardcore straight-edge punk scene, I like what these guys are doing. Keep it up! For the naysayers, its really difficult to judge a band (especially a punk band) by seeing a few Youtube clips. You have to experience it live. I've heard of the Kominas before, but haven't had a chance to check them out. I look forward to seeing them when they pass through the Midwest.</p> Don’t have time to bother with all the tangential comments above.

But as a Hindu who is into the hardcore straight-edge punk scene, I like what these guys are doing. Keep it up! For the naysayers, its really difficult to judge a band (especially a punk band) by seeing a few Youtube clips. You have to experience it live. I’ve heard of the Kominas before, but haven’t had a chance to check them out. I look forward to seeing them when they pass through the Midwest.

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By: PG http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/07/21/up_the_taqx_nea/comment-page-1/#comment-244467 PG Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:56:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5866#comment-244467 <blockquote>why don't they have a song criticizing Islam, for a change?</blockquote> <p>If you watch the video and listen, they ARE criticising Islam, and they got criticised and blacklisted in some Pakistani town for it.</p> <p>Watch the vid.</p> why don’t they have a song criticizing Islam, for a change?

If you watch the video and listen, they ARE criticising Islam, and they got criticised and blacklisted in some Pakistani town for it.

Watch the vid.

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By: Zahra http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/07/21/up_the_taqx_nea/comment-page-1/#comment-244466 Zahra Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:37:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5866#comment-244466 <p>New banners = amazing</p> New banners = amazing

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By: PG http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/07/21/up_the_taqx_nea/comment-page-1/#comment-244464 PG Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:30:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5866#comment-244464 <blockquote>"The unbearable burden of meanness", i truly empathize with your daughter's experience - that's plenty of hate. but let's not compare that to people not liking some punk band, which by the way is not mainstream at all. people not liking this band has little to do with islam, atleast that has been the case for me.</blockquote> <p>Word. Plus, isn't at least one member of Kominas an avowed ATHEIST? And the others don't even practice Islam? One mentioned interest in "sufism" and other "spiritual" stuff.</p> <p>I doubt most mainstream Sunnis or Shias would approve.</p> <p>I mean, you saw what the organizer of ISNA was saying. She was upset coz a FEMALE was onstage performing. Tsk Tsk.</p> <p>Taqwacore does not rep Islam and we all know it.</p> <p>Salam.</p> “The unbearable burden of meanness”, i truly empathize with your daughter’s experience – that’s plenty of hate. but let’s not compare that to people not liking some punk band, which by the way is not mainstream at all. people not liking this band has little to do with islam, atleast that has been the case for me.

Word. Plus, isn’t at least one member of Kominas an avowed ATHEIST? And the others don’t even practice Islam? One mentioned interest in “sufism” and other “spiritual” stuff.

I doubt most mainstream Sunnis or Shias would approve.

I mean, you saw what the organizer of ISNA was saying. She was upset coz a FEMALE was onstage performing. Tsk Tsk.

Taqwacore does not rep Islam and we all know it.

Salam.

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By: boston_mahesh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/07/21/up_the_taqx_nea/comment-page-1/#comment-244463 boston_mahesh Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:27:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5866#comment-244463 <p>This band sucks. Their "message" sucks. They're a bunch of poseurs who live with their parents who aspire to become management consultants. If they think that they are so punk-rock, why don't they have a song criticizing Islam, for a change?</p> <p>The Clash and Sex Pistols both criticized capitalism, the UK, the monarchy, racism, ex-girlfriends, Christianity, etc. These two bands were quite representative of the UK, btw.</p> This band sucks. Their “message” sucks. They’re a bunch of poseurs who live with their parents who aspire to become management consultants. If they think that they are so punk-rock, why don’t they have a song criticizing Islam, for a change?

The Clash and Sex Pistols both criticized capitalism, the UK, the monarchy, racism, ex-girlfriends, Christianity, etc. These two bands were quite representative of the UK, btw.

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By: najeeb http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/07/21/up_the_taqx_nea/comment-page-1/#comment-244462 najeeb Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:20:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5866#comment-244462 <p>"The unbearable burden of meanness", i truly empathize with your daughter's experience - that's plenty of hate. but let's not compare that to people not liking some punk band, which by the way is not mainstream at all. people not liking this band has little to do with islam, atleast that has been the case for me.</p> <p>Amardeep, it ultimately comes to down to likability. bands have to be listenable(of course that is subjective), likable members, and should have some genuine sense of music. these guys don't fit the bill in my opinion -</p> “The unbearable burden of meanness”, i truly empathize with your daughter’s experience – that’s plenty of hate. but let’s not compare that to people not liking some punk band, which by the way is not mainstream at all. people not liking this band has little to do with islam, atleast that has been the case for me.

Amardeep, it ultimately comes to down to likability. bands have to be listenable(of course that is subjective), likable members, and should have some genuine sense of music. these guys don’t fit the bill in my opinion -

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By: SM Intern http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/07/21/up_the_taqx_nea/comment-page-1/#comment-244459 SM Intern Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:44:28 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5866#comment-244459 <p>Six of One & Yoga Fire,</p> <p>I'll ban you both if you don't quit it. I haven't even bothered to read the banter, it's so convoluted. Be punk rock and take it offline and outside.</p> <p>Back to the regularly scheduled comments about The Kominas Summer 2009 Tour.</p> Six of One & Yoga Fire,

I’ll ban you both if you don’t quit it. I haven’t even bothered to read the banter, it’s so convoluted. Be punk rock and take it offline and outside.

Back to the regularly scheduled comments about The Kominas Summer 2009 Tour.

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