Comments on: Loving every moment http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/06/13/loving_every_mo/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Pardesi Gori http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/06/13/loving_every_mo/comment-page-3/#comment-242403 Pardesi Gori Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:26:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5820#comment-242403 <blockquote>Pardesi Gori, What about a Sicilian and a Norwegian?</blockquote> <p>Ask TTCSUM</p> Pardesi Gori, What about a Sicilian and a Norwegian?

Ask TTCSUM

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By: flame http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/06/13/loving_every_mo/comment-page-3/#comment-242402 flame Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:20:02 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5820#comment-242402 <blockquote>Surely you know that the various ethnicities of the Indian subcontinent are separated by thousands of years of history, countless conflicts, and languages that aren't even remotely similar. Do you really want these groups to forget all that, and embrace each other as if nothing ever happened</blockquote> <p>do not rail against the ideology-that-shall-not-be-named.</p> Surely you know that the various ethnicities of the Indian subcontinent are separated by thousands of years of history, countless conflicts, and languages that aren’t even remotely similar. Do you really want these groups to forget all that, and embrace each other as if nothing ever happened

do not rail against the ideology-that-shall-not-be-named.

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By: lamy http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/06/13/loving_every_mo/comment-page-3/#comment-242401 lamy Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:14:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5820#comment-242401 <p>"..What about a Sicilian and a Norwegian?"</p> <p>hey--you'd get Edie Falco (Carmela in the Sopranos.) she's a Sicilian - Swedish blend, i think i read.</p> “..What about a Sicilian and a Norwegian?”

hey–you’d get Edie Falco (Carmela in the Sopranos.) she’s a Sicilian – Swedish blend, i think i read.

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By: Lupus Solitarius http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/06/13/loving_every_mo/comment-page-3/#comment-242400 Lupus Solitarius Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:07:22 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5820#comment-242400 <p>Pardesi Gori, What about a Sicilian and a Norwegian?</p> Pardesi Gori, What about a Sicilian and a Norwegian?

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By: Pardesi Gori http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/06/13/loving_every_mo/comment-page-3/#comment-242397 Pardesi Gori Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:19:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5820#comment-242397 <blockquote><b>masalawalla wrote: Both of my parents are Indian, but my mom still refers to them as an interracial couple... They are by no means interracial.</b> I find this attitude to be incredibly patronizing. It's the equivalent of a white person saying, "all you brown people look the same." Surely you know that the various ethnicities of the Indian subcontinent are separated by thousands of years of history, countless conflicts, and languages that aren't even remotely similar. Do you really want these groups to forget all that, and embrace each other as if nothing ever happened, all because the master-race-du-jour can't tell them apart? Do you really want to deny these people the right to define THEIR OWN identities</blockquote> <p>?</p> <p>So TTUSM, would you consider an Italian marrying a Greek to be "inter-racial" or a German marrying a Finlander?</p> masalawalla wrote: Both of my parents are Indian, but my mom still refers to them as an interracial couple… They are by no means interracial. I find this attitude to be incredibly patronizing. It’s the equivalent of a white person saying, “all you brown people look the same.” Surely you know that the various ethnicities of the Indian subcontinent are separated by thousands of years of history, countless conflicts, and languages that aren’t even remotely similar. Do you really want these groups to forget all that, and embrace each other as if nothing ever happened, all because the master-race-du-jour can’t tell them apart? Do you really want to deny these people the right to define THEIR OWN identities

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So TTUSM, would you consider an Italian marrying a Greek to be “inter-racial” or a German marrying a Finlander?

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By: TTCUSM http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/06/13/loving_every_mo/comment-page-3/#comment-242394 TTCUSM Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:03:36 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5820#comment-242394 <p>masalawalla wrote:</p> <blockquote>Both of my parents are Indian, but my mom still refers to them as an interracial couple... They are by no means interracial.</blockquote> <p>I find this attitude to be incredibly patronizing. It's the equivalent of a white person saying, "all you brown people look the same."</p> <p>Surely you know that the various ethnicities of the Indian subcontinent are separated by thousands of years of history, countless conflicts, and languages that aren't even remotely similar. Do you really want these groups to forget all that, and embrace each other as if nothing ever happened, all because the master-race-du-jour can't tell them apart? Do you really want to deny these people the right to define THEIR OWN identities?</p> masalawalla wrote:

Both of my parents are Indian, but my mom still refers to them as an interracial couple… They are by no means interracial.

I find this attitude to be incredibly patronizing. It’s the equivalent of a white person saying, “all you brown people look the same.”

Surely you know that the various ethnicities of the Indian subcontinent are separated by thousands of years of history, countless conflicts, and languages that aren’t even remotely similar. Do you really want these groups to forget all that, and embrace each other as if nothing ever happened, all because the master-race-du-jour can’t tell them apart? Do you really want to deny these people the right to define THEIR OWN identities?

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By: ahimsa http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/06/13/loving_every_mo/comment-page-3/#comment-242391 ahimsa Sun, 21 Jun 2009 08:03:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5820#comment-242391 <p>Thanks for posting about Loving Day (I saw it on some other blogs, too).</p> <p>Regarding marrying "your own kind" or "your own people" it all depends on how you define that group. So if "my people" are other software engineers then I did marry one of my own kind after all. :-)</p> <p>On a more serious note, I think I saw some comments here that treated race as a biological fact rather than a social construct. I'm not an expert but I don't think this is correct. Here's a link with more information - <a href="http://www.pbs.org/race/000_About/002_04-background-01-x.htm">Ten things everyone should know about race</a></p> <p>See item number 9, "Race isn't biological, but racism is still real."</p> Thanks for posting about Loving Day (I saw it on some other blogs, too).

Regarding marrying “your own kind” or “your own people” it all depends on how you define that group. So if “my people” are other software engineers then I did marry one of my own kind after all. :-)

On a more serious note, I think I saw some comments here that treated race as a biological fact rather than a social construct. I’m not an expert but I don’t think this is correct. Here’s a link with more information – Ten things everyone should know about race

See item number 9, “Race isn’t biological, but racism is still real.”

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By: masalawalla http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/06/13/loving_every_mo/comment-page-3/#comment-242275 masalawalla Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:58:28 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5820#comment-242275 <p><i>Broken Hearted on June 14, 2009 09:58 PM</i></p> <blockquote>OK, now when are desi parents gonna step up to the plate in this regard?</blockquote> <p>I absolutely agree. I feel like Asians are all more close-minded than others when it comes to dating outside the race, but I feel like Desis are the worst. Both of my parents are Indian, but my mom still refers to them as an interracial couple. (I think it makes her feel cool and she claims it's why she accepts her daughters dating non-desis.) They are by no means interracial. They both grew up in Bombay, where 99% of my extended family lives. But their great-grandparents came from other states, Mysore for my mom, and Kutch for my dad. I have never noticed much a difference in their cultures other than language and the fact that my dad's a vegetarian who likes Bajra rotis. His family still looks down upon their marriage since she is not Kutchi (I think they also see it as interracial.) I've seen so many desi women in loving relationships who dump the guy SOLELY because he is not from their village, claiming they had "nothing in common." If the only way to your marital happiness is race, then you have a serious problem.</p> <p>This to me says EVERYTHING that's wrong with the desi community. Everyone thinks their little village is better than the next and no outsider could possibly understand the nuances of their precious culture. Maybe I can't keep track of the correct word for "father's sister's husband," but calling him "uncle" is not the end of the world. You can have your Bajra, I'll take my Jerk Chicken any day.</p> Broken Hearted on June 14, 2009 09:58 PM

OK, now when are desi parents gonna step up to the plate in this regard?

I absolutely agree. I feel like Asians are all more close-minded than others when it comes to dating outside the race, but I feel like Desis are the worst. Both of my parents are Indian, but my mom still refers to them as an interracial couple. (I think it makes her feel cool and she claims it’s why she accepts her daughters dating non-desis.) They are by no means interracial. They both grew up in Bombay, where 99% of my extended family lives. But their great-grandparents came from other states, Mysore for my mom, and Kutch for my dad. I have never noticed much a difference in their cultures other than language and the fact that my dad’s a vegetarian who likes Bajra rotis. His family still looks down upon their marriage since she is not Kutchi (I think they also see it as interracial.) I’ve seen so many desi women in loving relationships who dump the guy SOLELY because he is not from their village, claiming they had “nothing in common.” If the only way to your marital happiness is race, then you have a serious problem.

This to me says EVERYTHING that’s wrong with the desi community. Everyone thinks their little village is better than the next and no outsider could possibly understand the nuances of their precious culture. Maybe I can’t keep track of the correct word for “father’s sister’s husband,” but calling him “uncle” is not the end of the world. You can have your Bajra, I’ll take my Jerk Chicken any day.

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By: Broken Hearted http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/06/13/loving_every_mo/comment-page-3/#comment-242197 Broken Hearted Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:20:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5820#comment-242197 <p>Masalamommy, many people of all background have issues with interracial and inter-cultural adoption. Some of the adopted kids, after they are old enough to form their own opinions, don't agree with it. Especially black kids who get adopt by non-black parents. They want to be "with their own" and in their own culture. They feel culturally confused, rootless even.</p> <p>I haven't yet formed a for or against opinion, I see both sides.</p> Masalamommy, many people of all background have issues with interracial and inter-cultural adoption. Some of the adopted kids, after they are old enough to form their own opinions, don’t agree with it. Especially black kids who get adopt by non-black parents. They want to be “with their own” and in their own culture. They feel culturally confused, rootless even.

I haven’t yet formed a for or against opinion, I see both sides.

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By: Masalamommy http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/06/13/loving_every_mo/comment-page-3/#comment-242193 Masalamommy Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:22:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5820#comment-242193 <p>As an adoptive mother of an Indian child this reminded me of the same arguments used agaisnt interracial adoption.</p> As an adoptive mother of an Indian child this reminded me of the same arguments used agaisnt interracial adoption.

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