Comments on: The Wicked Within http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/04/21/the_wicked_with/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Wanderer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/04/21/the_wicked_with/comment-page-1/#comment-238284 Wanderer Fri, 01 May 2009 00:29:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5738#comment-238284 <p>In other words Indians are at where the English were in the Witch General times...Thank god for Guru Nanak's views...</p> In other words Indians are at where the English were in the Witch General times…Thank god for Guru Nanak’s views…

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By: Sneha Krishnan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/04/21/the_wicked_with/comment-page-1/#comment-238248 Sneha Krishnan Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:48:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5738#comment-238248 <p>Perceptions of witchcraft are almost always misogynistic. In some ways they seem to come from the fact that intelligence and power in a woman are rarely tolerated. Hence a woman who takes a strong stand on anything, is accused of using witchcraft (her own feminine self being too week, in this perception, to stand strong).</p> Perceptions of witchcraft are almost always misogynistic. In some ways they seem to come from the fact that intelligence and power in a woman are rarely tolerated. Hence a woman who takes a strong stand on anything, is accused of using witchcraft (her own feminine self being too week, in this perception, to stand strong).

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By: Vij http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/04/21/the_wicked_with/comment-page-1/#comment-238063 Vij Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:37:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5738#comment-238063 <blockquote>You don't think that maybe the reporter decided he was going to make his name by slandering the father of a child star whose 15 minutes aren't up yet? After all, the guy lives in a Mumbai slum. What are the odds that he would be media savvy enough to outmaneuver a reporter in a "your word against mine" war?</blockquote> <p>Maybe, but it doesn't mean it's not true. This sort of thing happens in that part of the world all the time. Extreme poverty forces people to do desperate things. The tape made available to the media is silent, but the one reportedly given to the investigators is in the dialect during negotiations and according to the reporter there is no doubt that the father and uncle were haggling over the purchase price of the daughters.</p> <p>Maybe I can understand parents selling off their kids so they will have better lives. That's very sad all by itself. What makes this so incomprehensible is that the film producer's gave Rubina a trust fund that was supposed to provide her with support, housing and education.</p> You don’t think that maybe the reporter decided he was going to make his name by slandering the father of a child star whose 15 minutes aren’t up yet? After all, the guy lives in a Mumbai slum. What are the odds that he would be media savvy enough to outmaneuver a reporter in a “your word against mine” war?

Maybe, but it doesn’t mean it’s not true. This sort of thing happens in that part of the world all the time. Extreme poverty forces people to do desperate things. The tape made available to the media is silent, but the one reportedly given to the investigators is in the dialect during negotiations and according to the reporter there is no doubt that the father and uncle were haggling over the purchase price of the daughters.

Maybe I can understand parents selling off their kids so they will have better lives. That’s very sad all by itself. What makes this so incomprehensible is that the film producer’s gave Rubina a trust fund that was supposed to provide her with support, housing and education.

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By: Yoga Fire http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/04/21/the_wicked_with/comment-page-1/#comment-238005 Yoga Fire Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:57:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5738#comment-238005 <p>You don't think that maybe the reporter decided he was going to make his name by slandering the father of a child star whose 15 minutes aren't up yet? After all, the guy lives in a Mumbai slum. What are the odds that he would be media savvy enough to outmaneuver a reporter in a "your word against mine" war?</p> You don’t think that maybe the reporter decided he was going to make his name by slandering the father of a child star whose 15 minutes aren’t up yet? After all, the guy lives in a Mumbai slum. What are the odds that he would be media savvy enough to outmaneuver a reporter in a “your word against mine” war?

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By: Vij http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/04/21/the_wicked_with/comment-page-1/#comment-238003 Vij Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:31:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5738#comment-238003 <p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2009-04-22-slumdog-star_N.htm">Police: No evidence against dad of Slumdog star</a></p> <p>Looks like the police may be engaging in a PR cover-up. On Larry King the other night, the reporter who broke the story alleged that the father approached him and was looking to sell two of his daughters, Rubina and her older sister. So, the reporter didn't go there "to take advantage of the situation", as someone claimed earlier. He was approached. Why must everything be made to sound like a setup?</p> Police: No evidence against dad of Slumdog star

Looks like the police may be engaging in a PR cover-up. On Larry King the other night, the reporter who broke the story alleged that the father approached him and was looking to sell two of his daughters, Rubina and her older sister. So, the reporter didn’t go there “to take advantage of the situation”, as someone claimed earlier. He was approached. Why must everything be made to sound like a setup?

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By: sakshi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/04/21/the_wicked_with/comment-page-1/#comment-237965 sakshi Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:29:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5738#comment-237965 <p>Black magic (kala jadu, jadu tona) is a cliche metaphor in hindi for inexplicable influence/charm. It is usually not meant to be taken literally.</p> <p>Remember the line from 'Jai ho': 'kala kala kajal tera koi kala jadu hai na'.</p> Black magic (kala jadu, jadu tona) is a cliche metaphor in hindi for inexplicable influence/charm. It is usually not meant to be taken literally.

Remember the line from ‘Jai ho’: ‘kala kala kajal tera koi kala jadu hai na’.

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By: Sameer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/04/21/the_wicked_with/comment-page-1/#comment-237963 Sameer Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:48:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5738#comment-237963 <p>I should say they wrongly take actions of the father as a reflection of not the morality of the individual father but the broader Indian culture of 1.2 billion Indians both in the slums and elsewhere. It doesn't seem to be okay even among the father's community in the slums and family other than his brothers to sell his daughter.</p> I should say they wrongly take actions of the father as a reflection of not the morality of the individual father but the broader Indian culture of 1.2 billion Indians both in the slums and elsewhere. It doesn’t seem to be okay even among the father’s community in the slums and family other than his brothers to sell his daughter.

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By: Sameer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/04/21/the_wicked_with/comment-page-1/#comment-237962 Sameer Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:33:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5738#comment-237962 <p>"Caste" and being treated badly are not the reasons, if true, that Rubina's father and uncles tried to sell her to a rich Dubai sheik and his wife. In that tabloid that broke the story they credit a close family friend and neighbor in the same slums for tipping them off of the sale, and we see right here Rubina's mother fighting for her daughter, and that if true her parents would be publicly shamed. What is striking to me is all these other people living in the same conditions as the father are not excusing him from this act of selling his daughter based on any reason. They are showing that in their Indian culture it is <u>not okay</u> for a father to sell his daughter. That is what too many people commenting on newsites like I mentioned above - not so much the tabloid that broke the story - don't get, and instead take the actions if true of this father as a reflection of "Indian culture" not of the slums but of 1.2 billion Indians.</p> “Caste” and being treated badly are not the reasons, if true, that Rubina’s father and uncles tried to sell her to a rich Dubai sheik and his wife. In that tabloid that broke the story they credit a close family friend and neighbor in the same slums for tipping them off of the sale, and we see right here Rubina’s mother fighting for her daughter, and that if true her parents would be publicly shamed. What is striking to me is all these other people living in the same conditions as the father are not excusing him from this act of selling his daughter based on any reason. They are showing that in their Indian culture it is not okay for a father to sell his daughter. That is what too many people commenting on newsites like I mentioned above – not so much the tabloid that broke the story – don’t get, and instead take the actions if true of this father as a reflection of “Indian culture” not of the slums but of 1.2 billion Indians.

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By: Conrad Barwa http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/04/21/the_wicked_with/comment-page-1/#comment-237959 Conrad Barwa Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:56:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5738#comment-237959 <p>NOTW is not a reliable source by any stretch of the imagination. And " British stereotypes of Indian culture"? What exactly are these pray? And how are they distinguishable from stereotpyes of "Indian culture" seen elsewhere like the US or France? In so far as there is anything "British" about such stereotypes, they revolve around either the specific views of NRIs in the UK or Raj nostalgia.</p> NOTW is not a reliable source by any stretch of the imagination. And ” British stereotypes of Indian culture”? What exactly are these pray? And how are they distinguishable from stereotpyes of “Indian culture” seen elsewhere like the US or France? In so far as there is anything “British” about such stereotypes, they revolve around either the specific views of NRIs in the UK or Raj nostalgia.

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By: TMY Vigyan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/04/21/the_wicked_with/comment-page-1/#comment-237955 TMY Vigyan Wed, 22 Apr 2009 06:46:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5738#comment-237955 <blockquote>Changing your religion isn't going to magically make people stop treating you like crap you know? </blockquote> <p>True that. And changing your religion isn't going to magically make YOU stop treating people like crap either.</p> Changing your religion isn’t going to magically make people stop treating you like crap you know?

True that. And changing your religion isn’t going to magically make YOU stop treating people like crap either.

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