Comments on: Mullahs on the Radio in Pakistan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/04/03/mullahs_on_the_1/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Sameer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/04/03/mullahs_on_the_1/comment-page-1/#comment-237031 Sameer Thu, 09 Apr 2009 02:53:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5717#comment-237031 <h1>17</h1> <p>It was unnecessary. It was a <i>tu quoque</i> logical fallacy.</p> <p>"Tu Quoque is a very common fallacy in which one attempts to defend oneself or another from criticism by turning the critique back against the accuser. This is a classic Red Herring since whether the accuser is guilty of the same, or a similar, wrong is irrelevant to the truth of the original charge. However, as a diversionary tactic, Tu Quoque can be very effective, since the accuser is put on the defensive, and frequently feels compelled to defend against the accusation. " http://www.fallacyfiles.org/tuquoque.html</p> 17

It was unnecessary. It was a tu quoque logical fallacy.

“Tu Quoque is a very common fallacy in which one attempts to defend oneself or another from criticism by turning the critique back against the accuser. This is a classic Red Herring since whether the accuser is guilty of the same, or a similar, wrong is irrelevant to the truth of the original charge. However, as a diversionary tactic, Tu Quoque can be very effective, since the accuser is put on the defensive, and frequently feels compelled to defend against the accusation. ” http://www.fallacyfiles.org/tuquoque.html

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By: Wanderer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/04/03/mullahs_on_the_1/comment-page-1/#comment-236826 Wanderer Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:02:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5717#comment-236826 <p>Religion is bad for Pakistan, India and everyone else..it separates us all... Mullahs should not be alloweed to educate kids, anymore than Sikh Priests should be used to teach Punjabi...</p> <p>Had posted thi on wrong blog first</p> Religion is bad for Pakistan, India and everyone else..it separates us all… Mullahs should not be alloweed to educate kids, anymore than Sikh Priests should be used to teach Punjabi…

Had posted thi on wrong blog first

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By: Sameer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/04/03/mullahs_on_the_1/comment-page-1/#comment-236819 Sameer Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:33:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5717#comment-236819 <p>Even the 17 year old girl shown beaten in the video denies now it ever happened; perhaps she also believes it was a Jewish conspiracy. So it looks like there is nothing to fix in Swat, people. It is all good in Swat:</p> <p>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,512785,00.html "Hussain said that upon questioning by the Islamic judge, <b>she denied neighbors' claims that she had been dragged from her home, held down and flogged. She also denied reports that she had been charged with having an illicit relationship with a local man — who witnesses claim also was beaten — or that the Taliban forced the two to marry, the Times reported.</p> <p>Instead, Hussain said, the girl told the judge the man was her husband, and that the video was a fake distributed to disrupt the peace process in the region.</b></p> <p>"We condemn the acts of repression against women.... But the incident depicted in the videotape never took place in Swat," Hussain said. Related Stories</p> <p>Pakistani officials had no comment Monday on the girl's claims, a day after thousands of women turned out across the country to protest her alleged treatment.</p> <p>But a spokesman for the Pakistani Embassy in Washington told FOXNews.com that the government is investigating the video to determine who, if anyone, is at fault.</p> <p>"The people of Pakistan were outraged by this video and there are many questions: <b>if this has been manufactured by some groups of vested interest</b>, or <b>if</b> it is real. And so investigations are still going on," said Nadeem Kiani, press attache for the embassy...."</p> Even the 17 year old girl shown beaten in the video denies now it ever happened; perhaps she also believes it was a Jewish conspiracy. So it looks like there is nothing to fix in Swat, people. It is all good in Swat:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,512785,00.html “Hussain said that upon questioning by the Islamic judge, she denied neighbors’ claims that she had been dragged from her home, held down and flogged. She also denied reports that she had been charged with having an illicit relationship with a local man — who witnesses claim also was beaten — or that the Taliban forced the two to marry, the Times reported.

Instead, Hussain said, the girl told the judge the man was her husband, and that the video was a fake distributed to disrupt the peace process in the region.

“We condemn the acts of repression against women…. But the incident depicted in the videotape never took place in Swat,” Hussain said. Related Stories

Pakistani officials had no comment Monday on the girl’s claims, a day after thousands of women turned out across the country to protest her alleged treatment.

But a spokesman for the Pakistani Embassy in Washington told FOXNews.com that the government is investigating the video to determine who, if anyone, is at fault.

“The people of Pakistan were outraged by this video and there are many questions: if this has been manufactured by some groups of vested interest, or if it is real. And so investigations are still going on,” said Nadeem Kiani, press attache for the embassy….”

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By: Toostep http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/04/03/mullahs_on_the_1/comment-page-1/#comment-236814 Toostep Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:53:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5717#comment-236814 <p>Hi, Sorry the link was wrong I am extremely sorry <a href="http://toostep.com/idea/which-blogger-is-the-best-covering-varun-gandhi">http://toostep.com/idea/which-blogger-is-the-best-covering-varun-gandhi</a></p> Hi, Sorry the link was wrong I am extremely sorry http://toostep.com/idea/which-blogger-is-the-best-covering-varun-gandhi

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By: toostep http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/04/03/mullahs_on_the_1/comment-page-1/#comment-236813 toostep Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:50:32 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5717#comment-236813 <p>Hi, We can not believe media in all case. Because sometimes media supports only one party. So a contest of bloogers is going on who is the best covering varun gandhi case.. just have a look... http://www.indianeye.org/top-indian-blogs/</p> Hi, We can not believe media in all case. Because sometimes media supports only one party. So a contest of bloogers is going on who is the best covering varun gandhi case.. just have a look… http://www.indianeye.org/top-indian-blogs/

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By: Sameer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/04/03/mullahs_on_the_1/comment-page-1/#comment-236787 Sameer Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:23:47 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5717#comment-236787 <p>Apparently it was all a Jewish conspiracy:</p> <p>http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2009\04\05\story_5-4-2009_pg12_3 "KARACHI: Federal Minister Senator Azam Khan Swati of the Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (JUI-F) said on Saturday that the flogging of the 17-year-old girl in Swat was a Jewish conspiracy aimed at destroying peace in Swat and distort the image of those Islamists who sport beards and wear turbans...."</p> <p>Those conspiratorial Jews sure get around framing Islamists for the beating of the 17 year old girl, for the 2008 November Mumbai Massacre (with the help of Hindus in this case), and the most famous was framing Islamists for 9-11.</p> Apparently it was all a Jewish conspiracy:

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2009\04\05\story_5-4-2009_pg12_3 “KARACHI: Federal Minister Senator Azam Khan Swati of the Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (JUI-F) said on Saturday that the flogging of the 17-year-old girl in Swat was a Jewish conspiracy aimed at destroying peace in Swat and distort the image of those Islamists who sport beards and wear turbans….”

Those conspiratorial Jews sure get around framing Islamists for the beating of the 17 year old girl, for the 2008 November Mumbai Massacre (with the help of Hindus in this case), and the most famous was framing Islamists for 9-11.

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By: Priya http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/04/03/mullahs_on_the_1/comment-page-1/#comment-236699 Priya Sun, 05 Apr 2009 12:33:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5717#comment-236699 <blockquote> And I thought we went to Afghanistan to save it from communist Russia not to push them back into dark ages. </blockquote> <p>And I thought that it was for taking revenge on Soviets for our defeat in Vietnam - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone</p> <p>Carter's national security advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, has stated that the <b>U.S. effort to aid the mujahideen was preceded by an effort to draw the Soviets into a costly and presumably distracting Vietnam War-like conflict</b>. In a 1998 interview with the French news magazine Le Nouvel Observateur, Brzezinski recalled: "We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would... That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Soviets into the Afghan trap... <b>The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter, "We now have the opportunity of giving to the Soviet Union its Vietnam War."</b></p> And I thought we went to Afghanistan to save it from communist Russia not to push them back into dark ages.

And I thought that it was for taking revenge on Soviets for our defeat in Vietnam - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone

Carter’s national security advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, has stated that the U.S. effort to aid the mujahideen was preceded by an effort to draw the Soviets into a costly and presumably distracting Vietnam War-like conflict. In a 1998 interview with the French news magazine Le Nouvel Observateur, Brzezinski recalled: “We didn’t push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would… That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Soviets into the Afghan trap… The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter, “We now have the opportunity of giving to the Soviet Union its Vietnam War.”

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By: Samia Khan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/04/03/mullahs_on_the_1/comment-page-1/#comment-236693 Samia Khan Sun, 05 Apr 2009 05:54:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5717#comment-236693 <p>The extremists are winning the hearts and mins campaign. And if you're like me, a Pakistani who's been slowly diassociating with what's happening at home, here's something that is going to shock you right into life. - a video a woman took of a woman being flogged in Swat for leaving the house with a namehrum..</p> <p>http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/02/taliban-pakistan-justice-women-flogging</p> <p>How are we going to stop this? How do we support the Pakistani activists working on this? Please comment if you're interested in learning more about what you can do and what our activists at home are doing.</p> <p>Thanks.</p> The extremists are winning the hearts and mins campaign. And if you’re like me, a Pakistani who’s been slowly diassociating with what’s happening at home, here’s something that is going to shock you right into life. – a video a woman took of a woman being flogged in Swat for leaving the house with a namehrum..

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/02/taliban-pakistan-justice-women-flogging

How are we going to stop this? How do we support the Pakistani activists working on this? Please comment if you’re interested in learning more about what you can do and what our activists at home are doing.

Thanks.

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By: Neena http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/04/03/mullahs_on_the_1/comment-page-1/#comment-236689 Neena Sun, 05 Apr 2009 03:18:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5717#comment-236689 <p>While we are busy with Pakistan Talibans our own US backed so called liberal president Karzai passed a <a href="http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2009/04/200944174829557404.html">new law </a>under which,</p> <blockquote>the law grants Shia husbands the right to have intercourse with their wives every fourth night.</blockquote> <blockquote>Under the new measure, Shia women would be banned from working or receiving an education without their husbands' permission,</blockquote> <p>And I thought we went to Afghanistan to save it from communist Russia not to push them back into dark ages.</p> While we are busy with Pakistan Talibans our own US backed so called liberal president Karzai passed a new law under which,

the law grants Shia husbands the right to have intercourse with their wives every fourth night.
Under the new measure, Shia women would be banned from working or receiving an education without their husbands’ permission,

And I thought we went to Afghanistan to save it from communist Russia not to push them back into dark ages.

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By: Manju http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/04/03/mullahs_on_the_1/comment-page-1/#comment-236683 Manju Sun, 05 Apr 2009 00:37:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5717#comment-236683 <blockquote>Does anybody know if the merger between XM radio and Sirius will any impact on Mullah Radio.</blockquote> <p>they have to rename themselves Sir Mullah X.</p> Does anybody know if the merger between XM radio and Sirius will any impact on Mullah Radio.

they have to rename themselves Sir Mullah X.

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