Comments on: Move Over, Padma http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/03/11/im_not_the_type/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Janeofalltrades http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/03/11/im_not_the_type/comment-page-2/#comment-234328 Janeofalltrades Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:57:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5672#comment-234328 <p>Ya'll need to stop this stupidity with calling any certain group ugly or horse faced or transvestites. WTF. I don't care if you belong to the group. It doesn't give you impunity to behave like a moron just cause you are a woman and somehow think it’s ok to call other women out because you are the same culture. Granted no two people would have the same idea of beauty but we still expect the two people to not behave like a bunch of Neanderthals. I'm appalled to read such comments from women. What's wrong with you?</p> <p>It's one thing to criticize someone by saying they may not be model material or you don't find them attractive or you don't understand the hype behind them or discuss how they are pretty or not compared to other people's standards till we turn blue in the face etc. But to describe your dislike with such vitriolic adjectives is pathetic. Can’t you describe your disagreements with the standards without resorting to putting down any groups of women?</p> <p>Would it have hurt to simply say “I’m XYZ and I personally don’t think XYZ women are attractive compared to ABC women.” You are perfectly entitled to your opinion. All the detailed description of why is just plain rude!</p> Ya’ll need to stop this stupidity with calling any certain group ugly or horse faced or transvestites. WTF. I don’t care if you belong to the group. It doesn’t give you impunity to behave like a moron just cause you are a woman and somehow think it’s ok to call other women out because you are the same culture. Granted no two people would have the same idea of beauty but we still expect the two people to not behave like a bunch of Neanderthals. I’m appalled to read such comments from women. What’s wrong with you?

It’s one thing to criticize someone by saying they may not be model material or you don’t find them attractive or you don’t understand the hype behind them or discuss how they are pretty or not compared to other people’s standards till we turn blue in the face etc. But to describe your dislike with such vitriolic adjectives is pathetic. Can’t you describe your disagreements with the standards without resorting to putting down any groups of women?

Would it have hurt to simply say “I’m XYZ and I personally don’t think XYZ women are attractive compared to ABC women.” You are perfectly entitled to your opinion. All the detailed description of why is just plain rude!

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By: suede http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/03/11/im_not_the_type/comment-page-2/#comment-234324 suede Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:56:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5672#comment-234324 <p>This just in, from a blog(bryanboy) that I follow</p> <p><a href="http://www.bryanboy.com/bryanboy_le_superstar_fab/2009/03/lakshmi-menon-in-dolce-gabbana-for-dazed-confused-april-2009.html">http://www.bryanboy.com/bryanboy_le_superstar_fab/2009/03/lakshmi-menon-in-dolce-gabbana-for-dazed-confused-april-2009.html</a></p> This just in, from a blog(bryanboy) that I follow

http://www.bryanboy.com/bryanboy_le_superstar_fab/2009/03/lakshmi-menon-in-dolce-gabbana-for-dazed-confused-april-2009.html

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By: SM Intern http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/03/11/im_not_the_type/comment-page-2/#comment-234321 SM Intern Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:49:57 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5672#comment-234321 <p>Shocking as it may be, Shivani does NOT appear to be a troll.</p> <p><i>82 · <b>shivani</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005672.html#comment234312">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>This blog seems to be dominated by south-Indians or at least American-Indians of South-Indian origin. That explains the north Indian bashing I guess.</blockquote> <p>Shivani, this blog is not dominated by anyone besides the curious. Three of this blog's five founders are of North Indian descent. Also, you may be the first person ever to assert that South Indian girls are taller than their Northern counterparts.</p> Shocking as it may be, Shivani does NOT appear to be a troll.

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This blog seems to be dominated by south-Indians or at least American-Indians of South-Indian origin. That explains the north Indian bashing I guess.

Shivani, this blog is not dominated by anyone besides the curious. Three of this blog’s five founders are of North Indian descent. Also, you may be the first person ever to assert that South Indian girls are taller than their Northern counterparts.

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By: portmanteau http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/03/11/im_not_the_type/comment-page-2/#comment-234314 portmanteau Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:33:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5672#comment-234314 <blockquote>Like most of us you are a <i>"typical" desi</i> - Not that there is anything wrong with it. </blockquote> <p>Is that how you <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6161691.stm">console</a> yourself, Melbourne Desi?</p> Like most of us you are a “typical” desi – Not that there is anything wrong with it.

Is that how you console yourself, Melbourne Desi?

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By: shivani http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/03/11/im_not_the_type/comment-page-2/#comment-234312 shivani Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:50:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5672#comment-234312 <p>This blog seems to be dominated by south-Indians or at least American-Indians of South-Indian origin. That explains the north Indian bashing I guess. I have spent the first 28 years of my life in India and I can tell you that being a punjabi girl, I got chatted up all the time by men in other parts of the country that I have traveled to (Hyderabad, Calcutta, Bombay, other parts of Maharashtra and Andhra Pradesh). Men have openly told me that the texture of skin of punjabi women is better (whatever that means!) and the sharper nose has been mentioned occasionally. Unfortunately all the south Indian faces that hit the mainstream media seem to be closer to the north indian ideal than what the average south indian looks like. Many big hindi film heroines like Hema Malini, Rekha etc have sharper features than my south indian friends and, at least over time, become whiter and whiter. Deepika Padukone is way darker than what her pictures show. She had been whitened frame by frame in the movie bachna ae hasino, when she was against her bf, ranbir kapoor, who is genuinely white. I went to a big school in Delhi that had kids from every part of the country, and again throughout my school going years, the girl considered prettiest in class happened to belong to a community north of the deccan, though we had lots of malyalee and tamil representation. Lakshmi Menon was a model in her own right in India. She has the height and the body needed for ramp modeling, and as we can see, she photographs very well. South Indian girls work very well for ramp modeling since they tend to be taller than north Indians. In India, ramp modeling has a very fair representation of south indian names. I don't understand the Frieda Pinto obsession. Maybe westerners find her exotic because of her brown skin tone. She has an average face by any standards in any part of India. Her face is literally a face from the crowd. Padma Lakshmi was never found pretty when she tried to work in India. But she has a great body.</p> This blog seems to be dominated by south-Indians or at least American-Indians of South-Indian origin. That explains the north Indian bashing I guess. I have spent the first 28 years of my life in India and I can tell you that being a punjabi girl, I got chatted up all the time by men in other parts of the country that I have traveled to (Hyderabad, Calcutta, Bombay, other parts of Maharashtra and Andhra Pradesh). Men have openly told me that the texture of skin of punjabi women is better (whatever that means!) and the sharper nose has been mentioned occasionally. Unfortunately all the south Indian faces that hit the mainstream media seem to be closer to the north indian ideal than what the average south indian looks like. Many big hindi film heroines like Hema Malini, Rekha etc have sharper features than my south indian friends and, at least over time, become whiter and whiter. Deepika Padukone is way darker than what her pictures show. She had been whitened frame by frame in the movie bachna ae hasino, when she was against her bf, ranbir kapoor, who is genuinely white. I went to a big school in Delhi that had kids from every part of the country, and again throughout my school going years, the girl considered prettiest in class happened to belong to a community north of the deccan, though we had lots of malyalee and tamil representation. Lakshmi Menon was a model in her own right in India. She has the height and the body needed for ramp modeling, and as we can see, she photographs very well. South Indian girls work very well for ramp modeling since they tend to be taller than north Indians. In India, ramp modeling has a very fair representation of south indian names. I don’t understand the Frieda Pinto obsession. Maybe westerners find her exotic because of her brown skin tone. She has an average face by any standards in any part of India. Her face is literally a face from the crowd. Padma Lakshmi was never found pretty when she tried to work in India. But she has a great body.

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By: A N N A http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/03/11/im_not_the_type/comment-page-2/#comment-234308 A N N A Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:37:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5672#comment-234308 <p>Don't make me pull this blog over. :)</p> <p>::</p> <p>I shouldn't even have to type this, but certain comments (I think "douchey shit" characterizes them well) on this thread are just plain mean. None of us is perfect. We each have hair somewhere we'd prefer we didn't, we're too-petite, big-boned, pudgy, scrawny, blemished, frizzy, our split ends have split ends, etc. As we blithely dismiss thousands, if not millions for having noses or shoulders which don't appeal, bear in mind that what turns <i>you</i> off may just thrill another, and so to each their own. What would it feel like if someone else left similar comments, but the way they defined "ugly" described you? That would suck.</p> <p>We're more than our noses, hips, hair and lips. Having said all that, I am now going to gloat that this model is Malayalee. :D I'm glad we posted about her. Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)</p> Don’t make me pull this blog over. :)

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I shouldn’t even have to type this, but certain comments (I think “douchey shit” characterizes them well) on this thread are just plain mean. None of us is perfect. We each have hair somewhere we’d prefer we didn’t, we’re too-petite, big-boned, pudgy, scrawny, blemished, frizzy, our split ends have split ends, etc. As we blithely dismiss thousands, if not millions for having noses or shoulders which don’t appeal, bear in mind that what turns you off may just thrill another, and so to each their own. What would it feel like if someone else left similar comments, but the way they defined “ugly” described you? That would suck.

We’re more than our noses, hips, hair and lips. Having said all that, I am now going to gloat that this model is Malayalee. :D I’m glad we posted about her. Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)

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By: Satya http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/03/11/im_not_the_type/comment-page-2/#comment-234295 Satya Fri, 13 Mar 2009 06:57:42 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5672#comment-234295 <blockquote>Looks are subjective. europeans find you attractive - desis in india dont. Nothing wrong with that - it is just a personal preference. </blockquote> <p>Hmmm, I don't think that ALL Europeans find me attractive. I just think there's a broader range of ideas about what is considered attractive in places where a) the population is homogeneous and doesn't really include you, hence, the exotic factor, and b) the population is heterogeneous and there's a multiplicity of ideas about what constitutes beauty. In urban areas of Europe (and the U.S.) I didn't think there was necessarily a fixed concept of beauty. Granted, there are certain overarching cultural precepts that determine what's considered beautiful (the Heidi Klums and Giselle Bundchens of the world), but this doesn't always synch up with personal preferences, which often diverge from what is considered palatable in the media.</p> <p>On my most recent visit to India, a couple people asked me if I was an actress, which was bizarrrrre, as I couldn't be further from the Bollywood/Kollywood/Tollywood/Mollywood ideal. If I get looked at in India, however, I think it's more because I'm perceived as "westernized" (even when I don't try to be, I'm so goddamn transparent) as opposed to attractive. It doesn't really offend me...not my target audience, anyway. My qualm: I just wish that families didn't willfully pass on vitriolic cultural sentiments about beauty to their kids.</p> <blockquote>Many times I find that Punjabi women, especially Sikhnis, are far too masculine looking with broad shoulders, long noses and big faces. </blockquote> <p>I hear douchey shit like this ALL THE TIME from Indian people, even the most progressive I'm-more-first-generation-than-you types, without the slightest bit of reservation. It's largely why I don't associate with too many of them.</p> Looks are subjective. europeans find you attractive – desis in india dont. Nothing wrong with that – it is just a personal preference.

Hmmm, I don’t think that ALL Europeans find me attractive. I just think there’s a broader range of ideas about what is considered attractive in places where a) the population is homogeneous and doesn’t really include you, hence, the exotic factor, and b) the population is heterogeneous and there’s a multiplicity of ideas about what constitutes beauty. In urban areas of Europe (and the U.S.) I didn’t think there was necessarily a fixed concept of beauty. Granted, there are certain overarching cultural precepts that determine what’s considered beautiful (the Heidi Klums and Giselle Bundchens of the world), but this doesn’t always synch up with personal preferences, which often diverge from what is considered palatable in the media.

On my most recent visit to India, a couple people asked me if I was an actress, which was bizarrrrre, as I couldn’t be further from the Bollywood/Kollywood/Tollywood/Mollywood ideal. If I get looked at in India, however, I think it’s more because I’m perceived as “westernized” (even when I don’t try to be, I’m so goddamn transparent) as opposed to attractive. It doesn’t really offend me…not my target audience, anyway. My qualm: I just wish that families didn’t willfully pass on vitriolic cultural sentiments about beauty to their kids.

Many times I find that Punjabi women, especially Sikhnis, are far too masculine looking with broad shoulders, long noses and big faces.

I hear douchey shit like this ALL THE TIME from Indian people, even the most progressive I’m-more-first-generation-than-you types, without the slightest bit of reservation. It’s largely why I don’t associate with too many of them.

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By: melbourne desi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/03/11/im_not_the_type/comment-page-2/#comment-234294 melbourne desi Fri, 13 Mar 2009 06:44:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5672#comment-234294 <blockquote>I am curious as to why you prefer blondes.</blockquote> <p>so do I. since we are talking germany in this post "das fremde ist entspannend" explains many things.</p> I am curious as to why you prefer blondes.

so do I. since we are talking germany in this post “das fremde ist entspannend” explains many things.

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By: melbourne desi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/03/11/im_not_the_type/comment-page-2/#comment-234293 melbourne desi Fri, 13 Mar 2009 06:37:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5672#comment-234293 <blockquote>Based on looks alone, I still get more attention from western folks, particularly Europeans, than I do when I'm in India.</blockquote> <p>Looks are subjective. europeans find you attractive - desis in india dont. Nothing wrong with that - it is just a personal preference.</p> <blockquote> All my desis circle of friends perceive themselves as HOT, myself included. </blockquote> <p>rofl. Taz, you are many things but hot - nope you are not. Not by a long shot. Like most of us you are a "typical" desi - Not that there is anything wrong with it.</p> Based on looks alone, I still get more attention from western folks, particularly Europeans, than I do when I’m in India.

Looks are subjective. europeans find you attractive – desis in india dont. Nothing wrong with that – it is just a personal preference.

All my desis circle of friends perceive themselves as HOT, myself included.

rofl. Taz, you are many things but hot – nope you are not. Not by a long shot. Like most of us you are a “typical” desi – Not that there is anything wrong with it.

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By: portmanteau http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/03/11/im_not_the_type/comment-page-2/#comment-234289 portmanteau Fri, 13 Mar 2009 05:32:07 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5672#comment-234289 <p><i>75 · <b>cain</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005672.html#comment234280">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>Many desi women of the large hooked nose and hairy skin variety look too manly to be attractive.</blockquote> <p>we must introduce waxing and threading to the vestern vorld. we have been far too complacent after disseminating zero.</p> 75 · cain said

Many desi women of the large hooked nose and hairy skin variety look too manly to be attractive.

we must introduce waxing and threading to the vestern vorld. we have been far too complacent after disseminating zero.

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