01) Proof is there that outside entry of vehicles/men (involved in the ‘uprising’) occurred in BDR prior to, and during the mayhem. 02) At least two civilian groups of people marched inside and then came out of the BDR HQ on the 26th between 12 noon and 2 pm. Lot of ‘BDR’ men seen to have escaped out of the HQ in civilian clothes with both these groups of civilians. Mind you, by this time the army was apparently supposed to have surrounded the entire Peelkhana area with tanks, anti-aircraft guns, and what not. How could have any ‘civilian’ groups be allowed to enter the compound in such a scenario? 03) Live footage was shown of men escaping over the walls and some even getting on boats and escaping! Where were the security cordon personnel? Even the media people knew where to place their cameras! What a big surprise. 04) Should’nt it be possible to find out the whereabouts/activities/numbers of people who were recruited into the various government institutions (including the BDR, Army, etc) during the past BNP-Jamaat gov? Enough evidence is there to suggest that hard core followers of the above gov/parties were recruited in BCS, army, bdr, etc. What were their activities upto now? 05) The penetration of the hard-core fundamentalists into the bangladesh body politic is well established. Follow some simple truths:- a) 1972-1975 – Sheikh Mujib in power; b) 1996-2001 – Sheikh Hasina in power; total of 8 years out of the past 37 years!! Who or what type of gov ruled the country the remaining years? Are we day dreaming? b) President Ziaur Rahman rehabilitated Jamaat, abolished laws to try the war criminals, etc. Wiped out possible rivals through wholesale massacre of the forces. c) Entire contingent of repatriated bengali forces were incorporated into the bangladesh army from 1973 onwards — thus outnumbering the freedom fighters. d) Ershad purges the army of the freedom fighter elements via the Ziaur Rahman killing. e) The bangladesh army personnel (mostly) have had a direct ‘colleague’/batchmate relationship with top-echelons of the pakistan army, existing even to this day. This ‘camaradie’ never goes away. The path lies open for ISI (Inter Services Intelligence, of the Pakistan Army) to have heavy influence on our army. We are anti-indian by nature from a long time back anyway. f) All the above gives Jamaat a free hand to establish themselves into the general population to great extent. The misdeeds (corruption, etc) of the past Awami League gov also helped in this as general people were in many respects demoralised by then. Given all the above is it too difficult for us to surmise or conclude why/how/and for what purpose the BDR ‘revolt’ occurred without so much as a hint? If anybody has any doubts kindly go back to past incidents during the BNP-Jamaat rule — the shipment of 10 truckloads of arms in CUFL jetty meant for ULFA. Is our DGFI/NSI so inefficient whereby they can keep detail track records of students/business big wigs/party leaders, etc but not national issues/incidents? Where were they during the CUFL incident; BDR incident? Come on everyone. Wake-up. It is one thing to know and accept, and may be for some acquiesce on the above, but there can be justification for denying such glaring facts.

planned, i think so. conspiracy, ofcourse, how else did they plant it. they found arms and com. gear that neither BDR nor the army uses. a grey pickup was seen to bring arms/munitions to the darbar hall before the shootings started. the BDR arms stockade is 3-4km away from the darbar hall under lock and key, and munitions are not kept with the guns, being situated at another site 2-3 km away. it wasn’t as if the army brass said rough/harsh things and jawans “then” went and got guns, they had them, and they went about on strategic killing spree. the last few days they have been showing interviews of escaped officers, families, and witness accounts on pretty much all of the tv channels. something probably they should not be allowed to do until full investigations are done.

BUT, the what i assume to be the forensic team is working in closed off areas where for the days prior (after the attack but before they moved in) journalist and all and sundry were walking about. i read one foreign dhaka based photojournalist write how on a press tour of the DG’s house (before forensics seem to have moved in) she saw another local photojournalist rip up a photo of the DG and place it just so to get a good photo, which he then tried to take/steal with him…!!! ??? and not one week has gone by before the two main parties are STUPIDLY blaming eachother over stuff and staging walkouts over slights in the parliament.

to watch mothers and wives and children talk and cry about their husbands fathers brothers is heartbreaking. this is also a month where the country focuses on independence and the movement for nationhood as March 26th is coming up. ironically, BDR HQ, then known as EPR, was also the site of another massacre that started the final chain of events that led to statehood in 1971.

Lisa11

Drug Intervention West Virginia

I think both General Ahmed and the Rt. Hon Prime Minister Hasina have the full backing of India in any event. My thoughts are with the B-Deshi people and especially the officer corps. Many brilliant and loyal soldiers responsible for tracking down JMB, Islamists and other Anti-National/Liberation forces perished senselessly.

The only thing I am objecting to is

2 Differences. 1. Bangladesh shares a border with India and BDR is responsible for patrolling the border. Bangladesh has literally asked India to ignore any shooting that goes on near the border. Bangladesh expects BDR personnel to come to India and has asked India to disarm them and hand them over to India. A more correct American analogy would be if the mexican army mutinied and killed a large number of it’s top brass in mexico city. If history is anything to go by, american interests would not only dominate the airwaves, but CIA agents would be all over mexico city , along with millitary advisors and probably a bunch of marines.

1. The mutiny is not still going on. If you had not noticed, there was another post when it was going on. (& dudeDac’s pics were from that thread.)

I am not insisting the discussions must only concentrate on India – the only thing I am objecting to is that articles from the Indian media should not be part of this discussion. I found the Indian express link interesting.

As an Indian, I am genuinely curious on that effects this will have on India. My knowledge on the internal politics of Bangladesh is a black hole, and I welcome any information I can get regarding it.

Since the largest number of people who google SM are from India, it is safe to say that this is a legitimate area of discussion. Isn’t the aftermath the time to wonder how this also impacts the sub-continent?

For the record, I said nothing about the extent of the Indian media reporting on what’s happening. I merely meant that that the media should keep their laughable whodunnit theories out of it at this very early stage. But at Dr Amonymous’ kind request, I will say no more. I couldn’t help saying just that little bit though, if you will forgive me!

Dr, I see where you were coming from now when asking about why the sudden interest on the Internet about this issue and Bangladesh. I think it’s a horrible sort of desensitisation to killing and violence that’s made the media, and people who use it, uninterested in things that don’t surprise them. For example, what is happening in Sri Lanka – I vaguely know something new happened recently, but have not bothered to follow it because even in ignorance about the situation, I have a very general idea that the situation is not resolved and therefore expect the LTTE to pull something new, whatever it may be. Also like how road-side bombs in Iraq hardly get reported on anymore because they’ve become so common-place. What happened in Dhaka, however, as I mentioned before, was quite unexpected and therefore perhaps more exciting/newsworthy? It feels so horrible to think of it that way, but the media do love to prey on our strongest emotions.