Comments on: The GOP to Piyush back against Obama http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/02/12/the_gop_to_piyu/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Sonal http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/02/12/the_gop_to_piyu/comment-page-3/#comment-231351 Sonal Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:35:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5629#comment-231351 <p>I am getting bored with Jindal. It always is the same discussion about him. His name, his religious conversion, blah blah blah. These topics are less and less of interest. I think his politics sucks (too right wing), his name Bobby is stupid (but whatever, he can call himself what he likes), and I don't care about his conversion (just not a role model to me in that respect). The more people bring him up, the more annoying he gets. Now I wish he would just go away, but I know that it is unlikely, because the stupid GOP is all about promoting minorities, post Obama. I resent them promoting Jindal as the great brown GOP hope. I as a minority feel used, not respected. The tactics of the GOP via minorities (Steel,Cao, not only Jindal) and women (Palin) is more interesting to talk about than the same old Jindal stories.</p> I am getting bored with Jindal. It always is the same discussion about him. His name, his religious conversion, blah blah blah. These topics are less and less of interest. I think his politics sucks (too right wing), his name Bobby is stupid (but whatever, he can call himself what he likes), and I don’t care about his conversion (just not a role model to me in that respect). The more people bring him up, the more annoying he gets. Now I wish he would just go away, but I know that it is unlikely, because the stupid GOP is all about promoting minorities, post Obama. I resent them promoting Jindal as the great brown GOP hope. I as a minority feel used, not respected. The tactics of the GOP via minorities (Steel,Cao, not only Jindal) and women (Palin) is more interesting to talk about than the same old Jindal stories.

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By: Ennis http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/02/12/the_gop_to_piyu/comment-page-3/#comment-231218 Ennis Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:23:46 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5629#comment-231218 <p><i>109 · <b>GujuDude</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005629.html#comment230870">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>"Assimilating" isn't wrong, if that's what makes you truly happy in life. Neither is maintaining an identity from the motherland if that's what makes you happy. Couple of generations down, majority of immigrants are "assimilated" anyway. Who are we to peg individuals in a category where they belong. If it's prejudice that keeps immigrants from moving ahead in America, then it's equally wrong to hate on people who never felt they belonged among a group to begin with.</blockquote> <p>I never said it was right or wrong. People keep claiming that I have passed a judgment here, and I am honestly perplexed and befuddled by this. What I said was that the fact that his name is familiar and easy for an American to say (and yes, Bobby is an American name) means that that nativists who would normally oppose a candidate named Piyush have no objection to one named Bobby.</p> <p>It's an important point, but not one that is value laden. People keep reading my post according to what they want / expect to hear, and it's really bizarre for me as the writer to see what people think I said.</p> 109 · GujuDude said

“Assimilating” isn’t wrong, if that’s what makes you truly happy in life. Neither is maintaining an identity from the motherland if that’s what makes you happy. Couple of generations down, majority of immigrants are “assimilated” anyway. Who are we to peg individuals in a category where they belong. If it’s prejudice that keeps immigrants from moving ahead in America, then it’s equally wrong to hate on people who never felt they belonged among a group to begin with.

I never said it was right or wrong. People keep claiming that I have passed a judgment here, and I am honestly perplexed and befuddled by this. What I said was that the fact that his name is familiar and easy for an American to say (and yes, Bobby is an American name) means that that nativists who would normally oppose a candidate named Piyush have no objection to one named Bobby.

It’s an important point, but not one that is value laden. People keep reading my post according to what they want / expect to hear, and it’s really bizarre for me as the writer to see what people think I said.

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By: beoram http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/02/12/the_gop_to_piyu/comment-page-3/#comment-231215 beoram Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:44:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5629#comment-231215 <p>somehow my above comment got messed up. I was only saying that '"Slade" isn't a Welsh surname; it's an English surname...from Old English/Anglo-Saxon.' The other comments is someone else's.</p> <p>But something else which is interesting....</p> <p>In the latest Politics Home survey, Bobby Jindal is the most popular Republican in the US, and in fact the most favourably rated of all of the politics figures they asked their surveyees about, see: http://www.politicshome.com/USA/Landing.aspx?Blog=6132&perma=link</p> somehow my above comment got messed up. I was only saying that ‘”Slade” isn’t a Welsh surname; it’s an English surname…from Old English/Anglo-Saxon.’ The other comments is someone else’s.

But something else which is interesting….

In the latest Politics Home survey, Bobby Jindal is the most popular Republican in the US, and in fact the most favourably rated of all of the politics figures they asked their surveyees about, see: http://www.politicshome.com/USA/Landing.aspx?Blog=6132&perma=link

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By: beoram http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/02/12/the_gop_to_piyu/comment-page-3/#comment-231214 beoram Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:28:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5629#comment-231214 <p><i>25 · <b><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gnxp" rel="nofollow">razib</a></b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005629.html#comment230605">said</a></i></p> <blockquote><i>If his son had been named Moishe Teitelbaum Jindal, what would you think?</i> <i>If his daughter had been named LaQuisha Jindal, what would you think?</i> fair enough point. laqisha. lol. <i>He's a brown Catholic. Slade Ryan (to my ears) sounds very waspy, that is, very white, very angle an very protestant. It sounds as deliberate as any of the names I've listed above.</i> american white cultures are more diverse than this, you're stereotypes aren't too fine-grained. the catholics in louisana are cajun, which is way diff. than northern catholics. here's a <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gnxp/babynames.jpg" rel="nofollow">baby name</a> map. a new england WASP would not have a name like 'slade.' it's a nouveau name and lacks class. things are different in the south, and the southern upper class has that weird habit of giving kids last names as first (e.g., jackson). it turns out that slade is a welsh surname, but i suspect it is a normal name in his social circles. see this <a href="http://www.babynamewizard.com/archives/2008/9/of-names-and-politics-the-palin-story" rel="nofollow">article on politics & baby names</a>. btw, bobby didn't take a big step toward assimilation: marry a white chick (which around 1/3 of american brown brownz do). </blockquote> <p>"Slade" isn't a Welsh surname; it's an English surname...from Old English/Anglo-Saxon.</p> 25 · razib said

If his son had been named Moishe Teitelbaum Jindal, what would you think? If his daughter had been named LaQuisha Jindal, what would you think? fair enough point. laqisha. lol. He’s a brown Catholic. Slade Ryan (to my ears) sounds very waspy, that is, very white, very angle an very protestant. It sounds as deliberate as any of the names I’ve listed above. american white cultures are more diverse than this, you’re stereotypes aren’t too fine-grained. the catholics in louisana are cajun, which is way diff. than northern catholics. here’s a baby name map. a new england WASP would not have a name like ‘slade.’ it’s a nouveau name and lacks class. things are different in the south, and the southern upper class has that weird habit of giving kids last names as first (e.g., jackson). it turns out that slade is a welsh surname, but i suspect it is a normal name in his social circles. see this article on politics & baby names. btw, bobby didn’t take a big step toward assimilation: marry a white chick (which around 1/3 of american brown brownz do).

“Slade” isn’t a Welsh surname; it’s an English surname…from Old English/Anglo-Saxon.

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By: Sonal http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/02/12/the_gop_to_piyu/comment-page-3/#comment-231154 Sonal Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:03:02 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5629#comment-231154 <p>Judge Jindal by what he does, and what his politics are. Look to your own family and friends for ethnic identity. The real problem is the GOP positioning him as the minority candidate a la Obama, though he is perceived as moving away from his ethnic roots. You cannot have it both ways. If Jindal built his career specifically not to be the minority candidate to get to where he is as governor of Louisiana, he nor the GOP should expect him to be appealing as a "minority" candidate to minorities now just because Obama won.</p> Judge Jindal by what he does, and what his politics are. Look to your own family and friends for ethnic identity. The real problem is the GOP positioning him as the minority candidate a la Obama, though he is perceived as moving away from his ethnic roots. You cannot have it both ways. If Jindal built his career specifically not to be the minority candidate to get to where he is as governor of Louisiana, he nor the GOP should expect him to be appealing as a “minority” candidate to minorities now just because Obama won.

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By: Suki Dillon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/02/12/the_gop_to_piyu/comment-page-3/#comment-231145 Suki Dillon Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:11:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5629#comment-231145 <p><i>Blagojevich's father-in-law was a major figure in the Chicago political machine, and he only got his shot after there were several political crises. He's an interesting example, but not of name blindness.</i></p> <p>I think it may have more to do with his hair.</p> Blagojevich’s father-in-law was a major figure in the Chicago political machine, and he only got his shot after there were several political crises. He’s an interesting example, but not of name blindness.

I think it may have more to do with his hair.

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By: Suki Dillon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/02/12/the_gop_to_piyu/comment-page-3/#comment-231144 Suki Dillon Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:09:01 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5629#comment-231144 <p><i>Innocent or not, Blago is done. His political support structure where he drew his power from is gone. His handling of the case has resulted in the man not having any credibility or capital.</i></p> <p>I have feeling that Blago will make one of the great political comebacks of all time. Even D.L Hughley the future voice of black America has called Blagojevich his all time hero and said he wants to help prove Blago is innocent.</p> Innocent or not, Blago is done. His political support structure where he drew his power from is gone. His handling of the case has resulted in the man not having any credibility or capital.

I have feeling that Blago will make one of the great political comebacks of all time. Even D.L Hughley the future voice of black America has called Blagojevich his all time hero and said he wants to help prove Blago is innocent.

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By: meenu http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/02/12/the_gop_to_piyu/comment-page-3/#comment-231126 meenu Tue, 17 Feb 2009 07:08:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5629#comment-231126 <p>suki, thank god!</p> <p>ya never know these days.</p> suki, thank god!

ya never know these days.

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By: campmuir http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/02/12/the_gop_to_piyu/comment-page-3/#comment-231108 campmuir Tue, 17 Feb 2009 02:46:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5629#comment-231108 <p>i am no fan of jindal's politics, but this entire argument is quite judgmental. you can name your kid anything you want. i think it is far more tricky to consider the abcds, arroganly "proud" that they've "retained" their roots, naming their kid a very anglocised desi name such as neil or maya.</p> i am no fan of jindal’s politics, but this entire argument is quite judgmental. you can name your kid anything you want. i think it is far more tricky to consider the abcds, arroganly “proud” that they’ve “retained” their roots, naming their kid a very anglocised desi name such as neil or maya.

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By: ratnakar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/02/12/the_gop_to_piyu/comment-page-3/#comment-231070 ratnakar Mon, 16 Feb 2009 06:07:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5629#comment-231070 <p><i>119 · <b>Ponniyin Selvan</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005629.html#comment230964">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>Jindal seems like a smart and successful politician. I fail to understand this attitude. It seems unique. 1. An American of Indian origin Sonal Shah is religious, retains her desi roots / culture and connections and donates her time (and possibly money) to VHP. It is a problem and she is evil and not to be supported. 2. An American of Indian origin Bobby Jindal moves away from his desi roots / culture and connections and donates his time and energy to republican party and becomes a governor. It is a problem, he is not to be supported. Hmm. So in order for an American of Indian origin to be supported, it looks like he/she needs to get a manual from the likes of Vijay Prashad on what constitutes good behavior and follow the same. :-) </blockquote> <p>wow. this is incredibly true. Almost strikingly on target.</p> 119 · Ponniyin Selvan said

Jindal seems like a smart and successful politician. I fail to understand this attitude. It seems unique. 1. An American of Indian origin Sonal Shah is religious, retains her desi roots / culture and connections and donates her time (and possibly money) to VHP. It is a problem and she is evil and not to be supported. 2. An American of Indian origin Bobby Jindal moves away from his desi roots / culture and connections and donates his time and energy to republican party and becomes a governor. It is a problem, he is not to be supported. Hmm. So in order for an American of Indian origin to be supported, it looks like he/she needs to get a manual from the likes of Vijay Prashad on what constitutes good behavior and follow the same. :-)

wow. this is incredibly true. Almost strikingly on target.

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