Comments on: Bobby Jindal will change the world http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/02/09/bobby_jindal_wi/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Anonymous http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/02/09/bobby_jindal_wi/comment-page-3/#comment-256423 Anonymous Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:59:58 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5624#comment-256423 <p>"He speaks Punjabi, Hindi, Telugu, Tamil, Malayalam, French, Spanish, Arabic, Swahili and Xhosa, to name just a few."</p> <p>Do you have any references to back this up? I can find no verification of this list anywhere, and it seems highly improbably for a number of reasons:</p> <p>1) Aren't Jindal's parent's Punjabi? Where would he acquire the opportunity to gain any fluency in Telugu, Malayalam or Tamil (not to mention Swahili and Xhosa!) 2) Jindal was born and raised in the American South. There are incredibly few opportunities here to study "exotic" languages such as any of the Indian or African languages listed. 3) Jindal's personal history seems to show intense desire for assimilation, such as conversion to Christianity, adoption of of the name "Bobby", immersion in radical Republican politics, etc. It seems unusual, given his patterns of rejecting his heritage in favor of the norms of his adopted home, that he would undertake the remarkably rigorous task of gaining fluency in five (to name just a few ;) ) Indian languages, at least three of which are totally unrelated to his parent's native tongues.</p> <p>Again, it does not make sense--but if you can supply some backup I'd be happy to be proven wrong.</p> “He speaks Punjabi, Hindi, Telugu, Tamil, Malayalam, French, Spanish, Arabic, Swahili and Xhosa, to name just a few.”

Do you have any references to back this up? I can find no verification of this list anywhere, and it seems highly improbably for a number of reasons:

1) Aren’t Jindal’s parent’s Punjabi? Where would he acquire the opportunity to gain any fluency in Telugu, Malayalam or Tamil (not to mention Swahili and Xhosa!) 2) Jindal was born and raised in the American South. There are incredibly few opportunities here to study “exotic” languages such as any of the Indian or African languages listed. 3) Jindal’s personal history seems to show intense desire for assimilation, such as conversion to Christianity, adoption of of the name “Bobby”, immersion in radical Republican politics, etc. It seems unusual, given his patterns of rejecting his heritage in favor of the norms of his adopted home, that he would undertake the remarkably rigorous task of gaining fluency in five (to name just a few ;) ) Indian languages, at least three of which are totally unrelated to his parent’s native tongues.

Again, it does not make sense–but if you can supply some backup I’d be happy to be proven wrong.

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By: Manju http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/02/09/bobby_jindal_wi/comment-page-3/#comment-230691 Manju Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:18:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5624#comment-230691 <p><i>120 · <B>Sameer</B> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005624.html#comment230656">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>Manju, your example is gross. You could have presented your point in a more descent way, which would have been more effective.</blockquote> <p>Sameer: You have yet to prove to me that you didn't make love to Aishwarya Rai?</p> 120 · Sameer said

Manju, your example is gross. You could have presented your point in a more descent way, which would have been more effective.

Sameer: You have yet to prove to me that you didn’t make love to Aishwarya Rai?

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By: exorcist http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/02/09/bobby_jindal_wi/comment-page-3/#comment-230657 exorcist Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:42:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5624#comment-230657 <p><i>105 · <b>Sameer</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005624.html#comment230458">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>Hartman seems to me a good man fighting ugly racism.</blockquote> <p>who will fight the pretty racists, i ask you? and since people were upset on another thread, let me be the first to say that i think lou dobbs is prettier than tom tancredo. the orange gives him a beautiful glow as if he were basking in the rays of the setting sun wafting through the curtains of his studio as he mellifluously coos his populist hate-screeds while drawing a multi-million dollar paycheck.</p> <p>(sameer, either my reading skills are busted or yours are. you are quoting a forum post by some user on thom hartmann's website. how does that equate to something thom hartmann said? unless you know he goes by the user name of ctulhu?)</p> 105 · Sameer said

Hartman seems to me a good man fighting ugly racism.

who will fight the pretty racists, i ask you? and since people were upset on another thread, let me be the first to say that i think lou dobbs is prettier than tom tancredo. the orange gives him a beautiful glow as if he were basking in the rays of the setting sun wafting through the curtains of his studio as he mellifluously coos his populist hate-screeds while drawing a multi-million dollar paycheck.

(sameer, either my reading skills are busted or yours are. you are quoting a forum post by some user on thom hartmann’s website. how does that equate to something thom hartmann said? unless you know he goes by the user name of ctulhu?)

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By: Sameer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/02/09/bobby_jindal_wi/comment-page-3/#comment-230656 Sameer Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:20:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5624#comment-230656 <p>Exocist, I have given the Hartmann link each time. The last time being #106.</p> <p>Manju, your example is gross. You could have presented your point in a more descent way, which would have been more effective.</p> <p>People seem to think by being rude or vulgar you make your position, but in fact you don't make your point better.</p> <p>" 109 · NV on February 12, 2009 11:26 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)</p> <pre><code>Look, I can be open to perhaps Hartmann was just talking heated rhetoric, though it does not seem like it. Can you be open to what he is saying being a fact? </code></pre> <p>I think everyone is open to thinking that maybe it's a fact. But extraordinary claims like that need evidence. You haven't given anything to corroborate Hartmann's story and I can't find anything."</p> <p>NV, for me what Hartmann said is enough. I shared it here with you guys. If you need more corroboration, you are free to do so. To be frank, Jindal meeting with the KKK did not actually hurt anyone. It is lame to try to be accepted by them as white enough. But the other things that Hartmann listed that upset him about Jindal but let slide, until the last thing Jindal did which was the straw that broke the camel's back for him are things that hurt other people. So even if Hartmann was mistaken, and Jindal did not the Lousianna KKK, it looks like Jindal has done enough as far as Hartmann is concerned to be the brown David Duke.</p> Exocist, I have given the Hartmann link each time. The last time being #106.

Manju, your example is gross. You could have presented your point in a more descent way, which would have been more effective.

People seem to think by being rude or vulgar you make your position, but in fact you don’t make your point better.

” 109 · NV on February 12, 2009 11:26 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Look, I can be open to perhaps Hartmann was just talking heated rhetoric, though it does not seem like it. Can you be open to what he is saying being a fact? 

I think everyone is open to thinking that maybe it’s a fact. But extraordinary claims like that need evidence. You haven’t given anything to corroborate Hartmann’s story and I can’t find anything.”

NV, for me what Hartmann said is enough. I shared it here with you guys. If you need more corroboration, you are free to do so. To be frank, Jindal meeting with the KKK did not actually hurt anyone. It is lame to try to be accepted by them as white enough. But the other things that Hartmann listed that upset him about Jindal but let slide, until the last thing Jindal did which was the straw that broke the camel’s back for him are things that hurt other people. So even if Hartmann was mistaken, and Jindal did not the Lousianna KKK, it looks like Jindal has done enough as far as Hartmann is concerned to be the brown David Duke.

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By: NV http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/02/09/bobby_jindal_wi/comment-page-3/#comment-230601 NV Fri, 13 Feb 2009 05:25:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5624#comment-230601 <blockquote>Why not also change all the place names that are Arabic (i.e. the ones ending in '-abad')? This is a double standard. Many of these Europeanized place names have been around longer than the Arabic ones.</blockquote> <p>Were it not for the presence of a sizeable Muslim vote-bank those names would be changed so fast it would make your head spin. It is a democracy after all. You need strength in numbers to make the rules.</p> Why not also change all the place names that are Arabic (i.e. the ones ending in ‘-abad’)? This is a double standard. Many of these Europeanized place names have been around longer than the Arabic ones.

Were it not for the presence of a sizeable Muslim vote-bank those names would be changed so fast it would make your head spin. It is a democracy after all. You need strength in numbers to make the rules.

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By: boston_mahesh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/02/09/bobby_jindal_wi/comment-page-3/#comment-230597 boston_mahesh Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:48:07 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5624#comment-230597 <p><i>22 · <b>ShallowThinker</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005624.html#comment230222">said</a></i></p> <p><</p> <p>blockquote></p> <p><b> Why are Muslim/Arabic names never considered "Not authentic" with Indians? None of them are Indian, but have a name like "John" and you automatically trying to be something your not?</p> <p>It is obviosly a race thing. So, you see Anna, most Indian's just are fearfull of people leaving the dark side and leaving one less soldier for us when the race wars start. </b></p> <p>Very good point. Also, why are Indians so anti-English-place names, like "Bombay", which they claim is Anglicized (or Portugese) way of saying "Mumbai" or even "Bengaluru" for "Bangalore".</p> <p>Why not also change all the place names that are Arabic (i.e. the ones ending in '-abad')? This is a double standard. Many of these Europeanized place names have been around longer than the Arabic ones.</p> 22 · ShallowThinker said

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Why are Muslim/Arabic names never considered “Not authentic” with Indians? None of them are Indian, but have a name like “John” and you automatically trying to be something your not?

It is obviosly a race thing. So, you see Anna, most Indian’s just are fearfull of people leaving the dark side and leaving one less soldier for us when the race wars start.

Very good point. Also, why are Indians so anti-English-place names, like “Bombay”, which they claim is Anglicized (or Portugese) way of saying “Mumbai” or even “Bengaluru” for “Bangalore”.

Why not also change all the place names that are Arabic (i.e. the ones ending in ‘-abad’)? This is a double standard. Many of these Europeanized place names have been around longer than the Arabic ones.

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By: Manju http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/02/09/bobby_jindal_wi/comment-page-3/#comment-230596 Manju Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:41:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5624#comment-230596 <p><i>116 · <B>NV</B> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005624.html#comment230553">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>It's logically impossible to prove a negative.</blockquote> <p>Huh? I thought saw Sameer have sex with a kitten, and just wanted him to tell me it ain't so.</p> 116 · NV said

It’s logically impossible to prove a negative.

Huh? I thought saw Sameer have sex with a kitten, and just wanted him to tell me it ain’t so.

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By: NV http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/02/09/bobby_jindal_wi/comment-page-3/#comment-230553 NV Thu, 12 Feb 2009 23:20:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5624#comment-230553 <p><i>115 · <b>gm</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005624.html#comment230548">said</a></i></p> <blockquote><i>111 · <b>Manju</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005624.html#comment230501" rel="nofollow">said</a></i> <blockquote><i>105 · <b>Sameer</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005624.html#comment230458" rel="nofollow">said</a></i> <blockquote>So far you have not proved to me Hartmann was mistaken.</blockquote></blockquote> Sameer: you have yet to prove to me that you don't have sex with kittens. I don't understand the last line. Or is it some private joke? </blockquote> <p>It's logically impossible to prove a negative.</p> 115 · gm said

111 · Manju said
105 · Sameer said
So far you have not proved to me Hartmann was mistaken.
Sameer: you have yet to prove to me that you don’t have sex with kittens. I don’t understand the last line. Or is it some private joke?

It’s logically impossible to prove a negative.

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By: gm http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/02/09/bobby_jindal_wi/comment-page-3/#comment-230548 gm Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:53:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5624#comment-230548 <p><i>111 · <b>Manju</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005624.html#comment230501">said</a></i></p> <blockquote><i>105 · <b>Sameer</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005624.html#comment230458">said</a></i> <blockquote>So far you have not proved to me Hartmann was mistaken.</blockquote> Sameer: you have yet to prove to me that you don't have sex with kittens. </blockquote> <p>I don't understand the last line. Or is it some private joke?</p> 111 · Manju said

105 · Sameer said
So far you have not proved to me Hartmann was mistaken.
Sameer: you have yet to prove to me that you don’t have sex with kittens.

I don’t understand the last line. Or is it some private joke?

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By: gm http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/02/09/bobby_jindal_wi/comment-page-3/#comment-230547 gm Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:52:51 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5624#comment-230547 <p><i>111 · <b>Manju</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005624.html#comment230501">said</a></i></p> <blockquote><i>105 · <b>Sameer</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005624.html#comment230458">said</a></i> <blockquote>So far you have not proved to me Hartmann was mistaken.</blockquote> Sameer: you have yet to prove to me that you don't have sex with kittens. </blockquote> <p>I don't understand the last line. Or is it some inside joke?</p> 111 · Manju said

105 · Sameer said
So far you have not proved to me Hartmann was mistaken.
Sameer: you have yet to prove to me that you don’t have sex with kittens.

I don’t understand the last line. Or is it some inside joke?

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