I think Dalits should show some patience and remain Hindu and take the leadership role in Hinduism.

ah yes, nice work once again PS. not only is this unrelated, it’s totally not your call. and what sage advice: clearly, all india needs is a replication of the divisive, corrupt, and morally bankrupt mayawati model.

Every time you cut and paste some tendentious load of crap, there will be three posters who will take apart your BS in a trice. Your endless capacity for self-delusion, will get you nowhere on this blog. Even if this thread is closed, and you happen to have the last word, there will be another thread where whatever BS you post under yet another alias will be ripped apart. Keep posting, and you may yet learn something in about three generations. If you have nothing to say about Christian Pakistanis, you should simply take your tashreef elsewhere.

This is just false. The worst hunger is where famines occur. It’s funny that you even dare quote Sen, who has written much of India’s conquest of famines, it’s agricultural production is now enough that it can feed its population

Utterly shameless and heartless. No amount of facts will convince this deluded lot. What part of Amartya Sen’s quote is “false”? Show us:

“India has not, it should be absolutely clear, done well in tackling thepervasive presence of persistent hunger. Not only are there persistent recurrences of severe hunger and starvation in particular regions, but there is also a gigantic prevalence of endemic hunger across much of India. Indeed, India does much worse in this respect than even Sub-Saharan Africa…… It is astonishing that despite the intermittent occurrence of famine in Africa, it too manages to ensure a much higher level of regular nourishment than does India.”

For you to try to dismiss chronic malnutrition, which causes millions of deaths every year in India, as being no big deal compared to famines is really disgusting. Grow a spine and cultivate your conscience.

I think it’s sad that when people try to look at issues critically, and try to find solutions wile still respecting human rights, that they are labeled “Hindu Haters”

I think it is these kind of people, who use accusations and labels against people just trying to identify issues and work out problems, that discourage people from speaking up, that discourage people from trying to change things.

If trying to understand a problem, truly, with all it’s complexities, is so wrong, how will we ever be able to work together, to move forward, to find solutions to problems that persist, like communalism, like discrimination, like poverty?

These people, who try to push this “Hindu Uber Alles” agenda above all, are the ones who cause problems to persist, while others are working towards solutions, one step forward, they are taking two steps back.

They love to spout the greatness of the Indian constitution, and it is great, but they leave out the most important part of the constitution. The part where it is a democratic, secular nation. They didn’t chose to put orange AND green stripes on the Indian flag for no reason.

They use quotes of India’s great attempts towards creating this democratic secular nation as an example when it serves their purpose, but ignore it when they feel threatened– then suddenly they forget the secular and democratic ideals– and talk about wiping out religious groups– to make things normal again.

They talk about Indian history– but they only refer to the parts that make those ancestors of their blood look good. They ignore the great history of Indian pluralism– they ignore the immigration and emmigration that makes India and the countries of the world what they are today.

These people- they are the ones who are a sickness to the world– a sickness of hatred, of twisted words, of inflammatory actions and the use of violence to reach their goals. While those who want to see a world were the human race can respect each other and live in dignity– they want to divide us– like a colonizer– and pit us against each other.

As part of a majority and a dominate class– they don’t want to give up their positions to power- they don’t want to compete with others who may, with access to what’s needed to succeed, might actually beat them out for universities and jobs. They don’t fear a disintegration of a nation- they fear the disintegration of their own positions of power.

Patriotic re-education, as I have mentioned before.

lol – that was funny.

This is just false. The worst hunger is where famines occur. It’s funny that you even dare quote Sen, who has written much of India’s conquest of famines, it’s agricultural production is now enough that it can feed its population, the democracy that you, the self-racist deny is part of India’s culture, Sen directly attributes to India’s long history within Hindu philosophy. Back when the parts of the West were having untouchability stamped in its laws – blacks can only sit here or there, they must be separate from whites – India went right ahead and stated untouchability is illegal. MLK has written much of the influence Gandhi’s hinduism in his own fight for equality in the US – his own fight to overcome “America’s shameful untouchability”. If a vast and incredibily wealthy country as the U.S. has taken …. let’s start with the civil war….more than 100 years to overcome it’s untouchability laws than I have much hope for India, and the tenets of our philosophy, much of it reflecting hinduism and buddhism, that would allow a democracy to flourish, in a part of the world, that is all dictators and puppet govts.

It’s funny that you write so hatefully at Indians as spineless. When India becomes so insecure that it abolishes a free press, and people like you would be tortured in jail b/c it criticizes the govt, than you can talk about spinelessness.

Malnourishment in India is a problem as the Indian press readily stresses alongside fools in the press who ignore it. As Sen recently stated at the IIT’s the fact that India is a democracy with a free press, has been a huge factor in having it overcome Famines – that have plagued AFrica, and China. He also states “There were also glaring inequalities in the coverage provided to events affecting the rich and the coverage to the more chronic and continuous problems faced by the poor, and this had to be addressed to reduce poverty, Dr. Sen said.” freely in Indian society and I am so glad he can state these issues.

He goes on to state there are more, malnourished in South Asian than subSaharan Africa – notice the word is malnourished, not famines not undernourished.

India, is and has been, since it’s creation doing much better than many of these countries. We’ve got so much to improve but let’s not self-racism, get in the way of what the data actually states. And then when you bring in factors such as democracy and a free press, well that makes me very glad that I’m born in India than in Sudan or China.

Malnourishment is something, Sen states, India should be able to overcome b/c we have the resources, despite having a population density much worse than say many countries in subsaharan Africa, and since our people aren’t dying of famines, that means more people to suffer malnourishment – understand?

Here’s a link to undernourishment — Different than malnourishment. India is doing much better than parts of Africa, but all of South Asia have to do better, no doubt.

It’s unfortunate that you are allowed to quote Sen, a man who heartily recognizes the equality in Hinduism, the tolerance of multiculturalism in Hinduism – something that you like to pervert and say only one interpretation of Hinduism exists and other cultures and religions is so much better…ha; It’d be interesting if you were born in Saudi, Prema.

Sen also goes on to state in his address to IIT Madras, that India will no doubt be a superpower and it can overcome the problems of malnourishment (doesn’t talk about undernourishment or famine that is much worse in other countries) and he doesn’t state that the only way we can overcome that is to become a tribal culture or convert enmass into Islam or throw out Hinduism. He specifically has stated that one major factor that prevents famines as those that plague Somalia, China (in earlier decades), Ethiopia, etc. is a democratic values…India is light years ahead in that manner.

Finally check your stats on the status of women – India is not near the worst countries in the world for women. I’m sure you’d like to pick one factor, female infancticide, as the only factor (b/c it looks bad for India) but you have to couple a myriad of factors to decide what is the most misogynist society — it’s a joke if you think India is. You have to look at education, education value, literacy, political voice, marriage choices, spousal abuse, etc, and India does not in any way factor close to the bottom.

You are full of shit.

You said “do your job, intern”? This isn’t our job. Try and understand that simple fact, maybe then you’ll be less irrationally disappointed.