Sorry, I just couldn’t get past that.

78 · jujung said

demonstrates a more powerful military/policing force killing massive numbers of people who are boxed in in a cleansing operation

Nandigaram?

The only massacre in the Telangana area I know of were the communal ones perpetrated by the Nizam of Hyderabad and his Razakar flunkies that prompted India to carry out Operation Polo.

Apologies for the source, it was the first one that came up on google, but it’s hardly a secret, just one of those things nobody likes to talk about: http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/fline/fl1805/18051140.htm

Dr. A, Mass murder by state in Telangana???? Care to elaborate?r by state in Telangana???

I can’t find any good sources online. What I was taught is that the peasant/CPI insurgency was suppressed by the Indian army – which the sources I did find say happened from 1948-1951. But if you want to correct my history with a good rigorous source, by all means do so – not extraordinarily confident in my knowledge about this episode in modern Indian history. Perhaps West Bengal under President’s rule in the 1970s would be a better example.

In any case, it’s nont hard to find instances of state sponsored mass murder in India, so please substitute whichever example you want that demonstrates a more powerful military/policing force killing massive numbers of people who are boxed in in a cleansing operation That’s really the crux of my point about Israel / Gaza.

Dr. A, Mass murder by state in Telangana???? Care to elaborate?

Jujung, Doc Amo is waiting for “third-party” confirmation, until then we will have to do with his sundry allegations!

how depressing; facts like these and the taliban control of swat make me feel so f-ing helpless. this year my extra money, whatever i have, is going to some clean energy research fund/project. i’m tired of this hypocisy wrt saudi arabia (and thus, wealthy wahabbis) because of their bloody oil.

let’s follow this scenario forwards – because of the global economy and how it operates (i.e. oil) and because of geopolitical strategies by the US, the USSR, and others, Saudi Arabia’s government is immensely wealthy, undemocratic and inn many ways repressive, as far as I know (I’ve never studied it but this is what I think – very happy to be correected).

If that’s the case, how would you fix this? You suggest takig away the source of wealth that maintains stability in the state first and dealing with other issues after. I would suggest giving your money to feminist groups, groups working for democracy in an Islamic context in Saudi Arabia, or other groups that want to take the monney/power the Saudi government and redistributing that money/power (most likely completely transforming the state) – a la Iran, but with enough support for the democratic side of the revolution rather than the theocratic side. Given the history of these places, it seems highly unlikely that destabilizing their economies rather than their polities is the best way to approach things.

Again – highly uniformed, but just some thouhts.

The exact nature of any involement of any part of the Pakistani state in the Mumbai attacks needs to be thoroughly investigated by 3rd party sources and established prior to any implications or assumptions about what it is. IF there is information that emerges THEN that could inform the policy response. But it can’t be assumed, and it has been, despite that all we have to go on are unsubstantiated claims by any number of people, the Indian government included.