Comments on: Job security for Aasif Mandvi? http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/01/08/job_security_fo/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Chetan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/01/08/job_security_fo/comment-page-1/#comment-228475 Chetan Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:18:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5584#comment-228475 <p>I just saw this discussion while searching for this very clip. I'm a full on Indian (yes.. from India.. currently in the US). And I just have to say, Jef, chill out dude (imagine this being said in the very same accent Aasif was using). If the accent was not familiar and relatable(?) as Indian, the comedy bit will fall flat. Aasif is obviously a talented comedian and actor. Do you really think he went out of his way to manufacture a fake and exceptionally "jarring" accent for cheap laughs ? Frankly, your insinuation that my accent (and yes, it is my accent) is jarring, ugly, hideous etc., is far more insulting than any stereotyping that was exploited for comedy in the clip.</p> <p>Chetan</p> I just saw this discussion while searching for this very clip. I’m a full on Indian (yes.. from India.. currently in the US). And I just have to say, Jef, chill out dude (imagine this being said in the very same accent Aasif was using). If the accent was not familiar and relatable(?) as Indian, the comedy bit will fall flat. Aasif is obviously a talented comedian and actor. Do you really think he went out of his way to manufacture a fake and exceptionally “jarring” accent for cheap laughs ? Frankly, your insinuation that my accent (and yes, it is my accent) is jarring, ugly, hideous etc., is far more insulting than any stereotyping that was exploited for comedy in the clip.

Chetan

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By: Apu. http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/01/08/job_security_fo/comment-page-1/#comment-227574 Apu. Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:13:36 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5584#comment-227574 <p>Jeff, you call the Indian accent "bizarre", you call it "ugly". I think its a beautiful accent and many people have the accent and we should celebrate the accent. There is nothing intrinsically racist in doing an Indian accent. The comedy in this piece came from a recognition of the immigrant parent and the accent is part of that recognition, just like when Jon Stewart does an impression of the New York Italian guy. I for one think this piece is a celebration of our immigrant parents and their subcontinental accents. The piece is an homage to Indian parents and what we love about them. I think you have a problem with the Indian accent and you're contempt for it is embarrassing. You are a great disappointment to our entire community Jeff.</p> Jeff, you call the Indian accent “bizarre”, you call it “ugly”. I think its a beautiful accent and many people have the accent and we should celebrate the accent. There is nothing intrinsically racist in doing an Indian accent. The comedy in this piece came from a recognition of the immigrant parent and the accent is part of that recognition, just like when Jon Stewart does an impression of the New York Italian guy. I for one think this piece is a celebration of our immigrant parents and their subcontinental accents. The piece is an homage to Indian parents and what we love about them. I think you have a problem with the Indian accent and you’re contempt for it is embarrassing. You are a great disappointment to our entire community Jeff.

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By: Pravn http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/01/08/job_security_fo/comment-page-1/#comment-227414 Pravn Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:09:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5584#comment-227414 <p>Actually all the Indians ABCD and DBDs I know laughed at that skit. No one was offended by the accent. Accents of Indians who comes here vary and Aasif's toned down accent was one of those. A lot of Indians also have the exagerrated accent you see in some shows. The only accent that is a stereotype that they get wrong is when some shows confuse a middle eastern accent with Indian.</p> <p>The whole point of the acccent wasnt to ridicule it but to give the high expectation rants some context that it is coming from an immigrant parent. The delivery is not as funny if you have some parents with a very Americanized accent. It comes across as pandering.</p> Actually all the Indians ABCD and DBDs I know laughed at that skit. No one was offended by the accent. Accents of Indians who comes here vary and Aasif’s toned down accent was one of those. A lot of Indians also have the exagerrated accent you see in some shows. The only accent that is a stereotype that they get wrong is when some shows confuse a middle eastern accent with Indian.

The whole point of the acccent wasnt to ridicule it but to give the high expectation rants some context that it is coming from an immigrant parent. The delivery is not as funny if you have some parents with a very Americanized accent. It comes across as pandering.

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By: Pravin http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/01/08/job_security_fo/comment-page-1/#comment-227376 Pravin Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:16:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5584#comment-227376 <p>Amazing how uptight some of you are. Do you ever questions jewish comedians who do the oy vey jokes (In fact Jon Stewart has affected that accent).</p> <p>If he adopted a neutral accent, the rant by Asif Mandvi who was in "character" would have been less funny.</p> <p>If anything, i actually thought he toned it down a little.</p> Amazing how uptight some of you are. Do you ever questions jewish comedians who do the oy vey jokes (In fact Jon Stewart has affected that accent).

If he adopted a neutral accent, the rant by Asif Mandvi who was in “character” would have been less funny.

If anything, i actually thought he toned it down a little.

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By: SN http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/01/08/job_security_fo/comment-page-1/#comment-227366 SN Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:39:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5584#comment-227366 <p>I'm Indian and I found this bit absolutely hilarious - the rant, accent, all parts of it.</p> <p>Overall, i think ppl need to chill about being PC all the time.</p> I’m Indian and I found this bit absolutely hilarious – the rant, accent, all parts of it.

Overall, i think ppl need to chill about being PC all the time.

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By: NV http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/01/08/job_security_fo/comment-page-1/#comment-227358 NV Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:09:02 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5584#comment-227358 <blockquote>NaraVara, is "the aestheticist in you" comfortable with this ugly rendition of an Indian's accent? </blockquote> <p>I didn't find the accent to be all that ugly honestly. The joke flowed naturally as part of the whole gag about ethnic communities being in some sort of prestige derby and about how Dr. Gupta being Indian means that he is now the benchmark against which all Indians must compare themselves. But the joke wasn't the accent. The joke was the character he was playing who was scolding Sanjay Gupta for his "failure."</p> <p>That character was obviously based on a composite of Indian parents he has known, probably including his own. Most of them have accents. Personally, I have no background in acting or comedy. I don't have any friend who are actors. But even I, when quoting a movie, will try to replicate the character's accent as faithfully as I can. I don't even do it consciously. If that character is British, I'll fake-British. If it's Daniel Day Lewis from "there will be blood", I'll do that. I don't think of this as being insulting. I think of it as being faithful to the characters I'm trying to portray.</p> <blockquote>Anyhow, the explanation you give itself negates the--silly, untrue stereotype--you claim: your dad is happy with your not-neurosurgeon work, right? </blockquote> <p>That is how satire works yes? You are putting a mirror up to a stereotype to point out the contradiction inherent to it.</p> NaraVara, is “the aestheticist in you” comfortable with this ugly rendition of an Indian’s accent?

I didn’t find the accent to be all that ugly honestly. The joke flowed naturally as part of the whole gag about ethnic communities being in some sort of prestige derby and about how Dr. Gupta being Indian means that he is now the benchmark against which all Indians must compare themselves. But the joke wasn’t the accent. The joke was the character he was playing who was scolding Sanjay Gupta for his “failure.”

That character was obviously based on a composite of Indian parents he has known, probably including his own. Most of them have accents. Personally, I have no background in acting or comedy. I don’t have any friend who are actors. But even I, when quoting a movie, will try to replicate the character’s accent as faithfully as I can. I don’t even do it consciously. If that character is British, I’ll fake-British. If it’s Daniel Day Lewis from “there will be blood”, I’ll do that. I don’t think of this as being insulting. I think of it as being faithful to the characters I’m trying to portray.

Anyhow, the explanation you give itself negates the–silly, untrue stereotype–you claim: your dad is happy with your not-neurosurgeon work, right?

That is how satire works yes? You are putting a mirror up to a stereotype to point out the contradiction inherent to it.

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By: Priya http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/01/08/job_security_fo/comment-page-1/#comment-227165 Priya Sun, 11 Jan 2009 06:08:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5584#comment-227165 <p>the rant at the end was really funny</p> the rant at the end was really funny

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By: fallen jhumki http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/01/08/job_security_fo/comment-page-1/#comment-227135 fallen jhumki Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:10:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5584#comment-227135 <p>I think the job of surgeon general is comparable to one in the cabinet.</p> I think the job of surgeon general is comparable to one in the cabinet.

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By: Amrita http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/01/08/job_security_fo/comment-page-1/#comment-227117 Amrita Sat, 10 Jan 2009 04:26:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5584#comment-227117 <blockquote>And yes, I agree entirely with the sentiment expressed by brother Aasif at the end of the segment … </blockquote> <p>Vott, Ennis, hau you can?</p> And yes, I agree entirely with the sentiment expressed by brother Aasif at the end of the segment …

Vott, Ennis, hau you can?

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By: Pravin http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/01/08/job_security_fo/comment-page-1/#comment-227112 Pravin Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:44:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5584#comment-227112 <p>Is there a way for the admins to check if that is the real Aasif Mandvi who commented?</p> Is there a way for the admins to check if that is the real Aasif Mandvi who commented?

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