Comments on: Flying While Brown…Again. http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/01/05/flying_while_br_2/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Carrie http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/01/05/flying_while_br_2/comment-page-3/#comment-228400 Carrie Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:36:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5575#comment-228400 <p>I agree with Kumar, it has nothing to do with being brown. I'm brown, but i would still be a little nervous if a guy with a a beard and his hijab wearing wife boarded a plane that I was on. Not all brown people are Muslim. Not all brown people wear hijabs, middle eastern clothing and grow beards. Hell, there are black people and even white people who do that. Islam is a universal religion, it has nothing to do with race.</p> I agree with Kumar, it has nothing to do with being brown. I’m brown, but i would still be a little nervous if a guy with a a beard and his hijab wearing wife boarded a plane that I was on. Not all brown people are Muslim. Not all brown people wear hijabs, middle eastern clothing and grow beards. Hell, there are black people and even white people who do that. Islam is a universal religion, it has nothing to do with race.

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By: whatscooking http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/01/05/flying_while_br_2/comment-page-3/#comment-227160 whatscooking Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:57:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5575#comment-227160 <p>i am brown - and i would be worried too if i saw a bunch of mullahs and wives with hijabs sitting around me- even if they talked in perfectly good english. The point is this is no time to be PC - someone who is so devout to be wearing his/her traditional garb while he/she professes to be a professional in this country - is probably reason enough to be suspicious. Comon people - this is a airplane we are talking about ... hello!!!</p> <p>I would trade an incident with this sort of minor irritation for these guys. If they are so upset, they should shave and their women need to don some clothes that dont hide their faces. I am sick of this BS..</p> i am brown – and i would be worried too if i saw a bunch of mullahs and wives with hijabs sitting around me- even if they talked in perfectly good english. The point is this is no time to be PC – someone who is so devout to be wearing his/her traditional garb while he/she professes to be a professional in this country – is probably reason enough to be suspicious. Comon people – this is a airplane we are talking about … hello!!!

I would trade an incident with this sort of minor irritation for these guys. If they are so upset, they should shave and their women need to don some clothes that dont hide their faces. I am sick of this BS..

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By: Dezi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/01/05/flying_while_br_2/comment-page-3/#comment-226919 Dezi Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:22:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5575#comment-226919 <p>It is not flying while brown, it is flying while wearing silly arabian costumes.</p> It is not flying while brown, it is flying while wearing silly arabian costumes.

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By: Zazou http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/01/05/flying_while_br_2/comment-page-3/#comment-226906 Zazou Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:21:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5575#comment-226906 <ol> <li>Wow. I am <b>very</b> impressed. Very cool of them. Also, very cool and collected action on your part. Chapeau.</li> </ol>
  • Wow. I am very impressed. Very cool of them. Also, very cool and collected action on your part. Chapeau.
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    By: grinch http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/01/05/flying_while_br_2/comment-page-3/#comment-226834 grinch Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:06:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5575#comment-226834 <p><i>100 · <B>GallopingGranny</B> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005575.html#comment226790">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>Comment 98!!!</blockquote> <p>thanks. i try to be of help. i dedicate this honor to the hypocrites and reality deniers to whom i've offered a reality check.</p> 100 · GallopingGranny said

    Comment 98!!!

    thanks. i try to be of help. i dedicate this honor to the hypocrites and reality deniers to whom i’ve offered a reality check.

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    By: oruvan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/01/05/flying_while_br_2/comment-page-3/#comment-226797 oruvan Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:26:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5575#comment-226797 <p>It is indeed fun to see desi community losing its ba**s this fast. maybe it is feat of the big bad gora, maybe it is the conviction that taking a stand against racism makes them something less than the gora.. but the way some of them basically bend over (backwards, if you want to keep it clean) to support the gora types by justifying racism is.. entertaining to say the least.</p> <p>Kumar and his type - I hope when you fly next time some gora decides that he/she does not like your skin color and decide that you pose a safety risk. That the airline decides that there's no legal risk in booting you off the flight, and despite the FBI, CIA, heck obama himself coming and pleading that you guys are too timid to be of any danger, they refuse to let you fly. That you guys have to buy a late airticket from another airline at several times the original price (ofr, in the end, it is not pride, it is not shame, but losing some money alone that will make a desi sad).</p> <p>then we will see if you will sit there and say, 'oh well, my bad, they did the right thing by mistaking my comments about potluck and hindi movies as something of concern to NSA..'</p> It is indeed fun to see desi community losing its ba**s this fast. maybe it is feat of the big bad gora, maybe it is the conviction that taking a stand against racism makes them something less than the gora.. but the way some of them basically bend over (backwards, if you want to keep it clean) to support the gora types by justifying racism is.. entertaining to say the least.

    Kumar and his type – I hope when you fly next time some gora decides that he/she does not like your skin color and decide that you pose a safety risk. That the airline decides that there’s no legal risk in booting you off the flight, and despite the FBI, CIA, heck obama himself coming and pleading that you guys are too timid to be of any danger, they refuse to let you fly. That you guys have to buy a late airticket from another airline at several times the original price (ofr, in the end, it is not pride, it is not shame, but losing some money alone that will make a desi sad).

    then we will see if you will sit there and say, ‘oh well, my bad, they did the right thing by mistaking my comments about potluck and hindi movies as something of concern to NSA..’

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    By: GallopingGranny http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/01/05/flying_while_br_2/comment-page-2/#comment-226790 GallopingGranny Thu, 08 Jan 2009 04:57:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5575#comment-226790 <p>And the Godwin award of the day is</p> <p><em>drumroll</em></p> <p>Comment 98!!!</p> And the Godwin award of the day is

    drumroll

    Comment 98!!!

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    By: Sheetal http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/01/05/flying_while_br_2/comment-page-2/#comment-226775 Sheetal Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:28:44 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5575#comment-226775 <p><i>87 · <b>mumbaikar</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005575.html#comment226570">said</a></i></p> <blockquote><blockquote>Well, at least the family gets to sue and live as millionaires happily ever after. Which, ironically, could only happen in the evil infidel Christian West. Who would even thinking of suing in Saudi Arabia or, god forbid, Pakistan - rape requires 4 witnesses... god forbid the number required for "airport discrimination"!</blockquote> Yes Pakistan and Saudi Arabia is the standard we should all measure ourselves by, I mean we should be just grateful we are allowed to fly at all. </blockquote> <p>I suppose after this family gets their six-figure paycheck, they'll be flying quite a bit more (most likely on their own jet, as opposed to an evil infidel second-rate Western airlines). Someone really needs to add suing to the immigrant experience. Whether the issue be a turban, airline hassle, or just plain body odor...</p> 87 · mumbaikar said

    Well, at least the family gets to sue and live as millionaires happily ever after. Which, ironically, could only happen in the evil infidel Christian West. Who would even thinking of suing in Saudi Arabia or, god forbid, Pakistan – rape requires 4 witnesses… god forbid the number required for “airport discrimination”!
    Yes Pakistan and Saudi Arabia is the standard we should all measure ourselves by, I mean we should be just grateful we are allowed to fly at all.

    I suppose after this family gets their six-figure paycheck, they’ll be flying quite a bit more (most likely on their own jet, as opposed to an evil infidel second-rate Western airlines). Someone really needs to add suing to the immigrant experience. Whether the issue be a turban, airline hassle, or just plain body odor…

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    By: grinch http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/01/05/flying_while_br_2/comment-page-2/#comment-226614 grinch Wed, 07 Jan 2009 05:57:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5575#comment-226614 <blockquote>PS--in a syncretic act, I got her a VHP-A membership as her Christmas gift.)</blockquote> <blockquote>Can we be honest?</blockquote> <p>sure. it's well known that a family that sponsors vandals and butchers together... ??? i thought holidays were supposed to bring out the charitable spirit in us. surely another hindu organization exists that could do some good with your money. many neighborhood mandirs in desh have dispensaries and clinics that provide highly subsidized care, usually for the elderly. perhaps you're enjoying just getting a rise out of some on sepia -- but it only makes you look very-very naive. your degree of denial is up there with "nobody is gay in iran." meanwhile, your extra-patriotic friends, MNS and Shiv Sena (whose brand of politics is actually affirmed when organizations like the VHP are encouraged; one can imagine who a VHP member is likely to vote for) are threatening bookstores to throw out pakistani books. the US constitution is probably sacred to you (originalist? i wouldn't be surprised). meanwhile, you're quite happy to pay for ring-side seats as india's constitution being shredded by goons you're cheering for. with PIOs like these, who needs enemies? you and the splendid academies at muridke have divided the labor for eviscerating akhand bharat quite efficiently.</p> PS–in a syncretic act, I got her a VHP-A membership as her Christmas gift.)
    Can we be honest?

    sure. it’s well known that a family that sponsors vandals and butchers together… ??? i thought holidays were supposed to bring out the charitable spirit in us. surely another hindu organization exists that could do some good with your money. many neighborhood mandirs in desh have dispensaries and clinics that provide highly subsidized care, usually for the elderly. perhaps you’re enjoying just getting a rise out of some on sepia — but it only makes you look very-very naive. your degree of denial is up there with “nobody is gay in iran.” meanwhile, your extra-patriotic friends, MNS and Shiv Sena (whose brand of politics is actually affirmed when organizations like the VHP are encouraged; one can imagine who a VHP member is likely to vote for) are threatening bookstores to throw out pakistani books. the US constitution is probably sacred to you (originalist? i wouldn’t be surprised). meanwhile, you’re quite happy to pay for ring-side seats as india’s constitution being shredded by goons you’re cheering for. with PIOs like these, who needs enemies? you and the splendid academies at muridke have divided the labor for eviscerating akhand bharat quite efficiently.

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    By: Dr Amonymous http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2009/01/05/flying_while_br_2/comment-page-2/#comment-226611 Dr Amonymous Wed, 07 Jan 2009 05:47:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5575#comment-226611 <p><i>96 · <b>bongo</b></p> <blockquote>On the other hand, if the statement made by the airlines authority turns out right, I guess they only acted based on other passengers' safety concerns and their own rules. As a service provider you walk on the thin line between client satisfaction and security issues. You can't really blame them. </blockquote> <p>Yeah they're pretty blameless unless you actually bother to read the articles, see that the FBI(!) cleared these people before the arlines did, see that the airline itself offered an apology belatedly, etc. Other than that, you can't really blame them.</p> 96 · bongo

    On the other hand, if the statement made by the airlines authority turns out right, I guess they only acted based on other passengers’ safety concerns and their own rules. As a service provider you walk on the thin line between client satisfaction and security issues. You can’t really blame them.

    Yeah they’re pretty blameless unless you actually bother to read the articles, see that the FBI(!) cleared these people before the arlines did, see that the airline itself offered an apology belatedly, etc. Other than that, you can’t really blame them.

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