1st of all If Lalu Gets more then 35 seats from bihar and jharkhand Then He Have Enough Power to forcely Become the primeminister of india.

And by These Days Lalu were given A very good inpression to country on The post of Railway Minister.

He Deserve To Become Next Prime Mnister Of india,And After When He Become Prime Minister,,,I think He give Enough Time ToGot Out Bihar From Poority and, he able to provide good facility of education ,road,and electricity in Bihar

Thankyou;

Lalu has not masterminded the fodder scam, but it is the brahman jagarnathe mishra. The scam started in his period but case against Mr. Lalu is just politically motivated by everyone Cong, BJP etc. Jagarnath Mishra too goes always in jail with Lalu but since he is non entity in indian & bihar politics media do not give any coverage.

Now we have more corrupt people amassing millions & billions be it from the self proclaimed meritocracy class of industrywala’s or corporate houses who go to government for all soaps, tax exemption, money, land at cheap price all in name of vast poor people. Similarly the fascist, fundamentalist, murderer camoufalaged in nationalism (by shouting at top of its voice & propagating the same with help of thier controlled media that they are nationalist) RSS,BJP,VHP,Bajrang Dal, Shiv Sena, Akali Dal etc. LK Advani is the most corrupted and so is all the BJP leaders, Rajnath singh did only one work and was to kill Phulan Devi and nothing else. And so is case with congress…………

Its high time that both the Congress & BJP should be kicked off from india. Already they don’t have much foot in eastern, souther, NE india and so it should be their status in rest too.

it is absolutely pointless in trying to engage in a conversation with certain people in this vein because they are NOT interested in understanding communalism, let alone ending it. Rather they exist within the bounds set by it and, moreover seem to enjoy it. Dr A, for kicks just replace communalism by communism.

Try replacing “communalism” and “communism” with “any dogmatic ideology.” That is why good Marxists generally emphasize Marx’s method (or variations therefrom) and thiknking and observing and learning rather than exegesis or dogmatism. They’re also often interchangeable

Dr A, for kicks just replace communalism by communism.

Well, lalu has ruled Bihar for 15 years (nothing much to write about there), but his tenure as a Railways minister has made wonders (that is the point of the blog) and Modi, we know is an efficient CM, getting re-elected two times consecutively in India is a big deal and I hear that Gujarat is one of the fast developing states. I don’t think anything is seriously wrong for those two to aspire to become Prime minister.

Do you have anyone else in mind?. If you throw some names we can figure out where you stand.

Seriously, given that I added a comment to describe why the document is garbage, (See 293), I gotta say … don’t you even try to read through other’s comments fully?

I didn’t need to read your comments in full to use your way of thinking to illustrate my point. You selectively read the document to make assertions that confirmed your worldview (e.g. “The number of riots started by muslims vastly outnumbers the number of riots started by Hindus.”). Based on these assertions, you then advanced your worldview. And you later concluded with your worldview: “My point when I that fears of Hinduism under threat can hardly be a crank theory when even a document hostile to hindu parties has so many examples of anti-Hindu actions.”

So this is the level of pedantry that I have to stoop to to communicate with many people who hold this world view and similar nationalist or other views- to point out that in your worldview, you don’t care about empirical accuracy as a guiding value but do use the form of empirical accuracy in mounting credibility for your arguments (which gets irritating and concusing unless we are willing to cut through the whole thing and is what makes it postmodern). So I would ask you to simply speak, setting your preconceptions side as far as possible, and recognize when your preconceptions are incorrect, but it’s probably pointless.

But I will give you an example of how I did this: the Godhra pogroms were the first acts of massive state-sponsored communal violence that I had heard about. So I associated the Sangh with massive state-sponsored communal violence. Then I learned abot the Congress violence in 1984 against the Sikhs. So then I underrstood that it is not just the Sangh that has engaged in massive state-sponsored communal violence in India.

From there, it was only a short step, relying on this method of caring about reality while still acknowledging some uncertainty, to learn about other ways of understanding communalism, other forms of state violence (like Telengana) and forms of non-state or quasi-state violence, as well as the roots of communalism in British colonial practices and political economy, etc. So now I understand that it is not just the Sangh that has engaged in these actions, it is not the Sangh alone that one can analytically atttribute responsibility to, and that Hindu majoritarianism and secular modernism are only analytically separable in Indian nationalism – they both have roots that go back into the 19th century at least.

However, it is absolutely pointless in trying to engage in a conversation with certain people in this vein because they are NOT interested in understanding communalism, let alone ending it. Rather they exist within the bounds set by it and, moreover – and this is what is galling to the pseudosecular communist new york times reader in me – seem to enjoy it. So at a certain point, either you are a complete dipshit for wanting someone like Narendra Modi to be prime minister and really are incapable of understanding basic realities of the world, or you really, honestly and truly, believe that having someone who helped organize mass murder as the prime minister of India is a good idea, which is a frightening frightening thought to some of us (i.e. the category of people who don’t like known mass murderers in power).

Hence you get beef-eating jokes from this vegetarian

That should read “pogroms” or “state-sponsored ethnic cleansing” – sorry. Proof in the pudding of what happens when a Hindutva discourse is articulate and rearticulated and rerearticulated on end untill its terms slip innto common usage.

Amonymous, Some days ago, under guise of broadening conversation, you tried to disengage (admittedly perverted brand of) islam from Mumbai terror attacks. It makes your own “narrow conversation” on hindutvavadis quite amusing. Don’t get mad at Modi apologists. You are merely fighting w/ a saffron version of yourself. Wise words from D. Parker for all y’all’s plague-ridden houses: You can’t teach on old dogma new tricks.

Serious charge The same framework should be explanatory for the violence in Mumbai as for the Godhra riots – and I believe that that a socialsciencey framework that looks at communalism on a regional level of former British India is a reasonable one to do that (it’s not the only social sciencey one, but it’s a reasonable one, imo, unless someone wants to show otherwise from within a social sciencey framework). I would apply that standard here and I would apply that standard there. But that’s nont what this conversation is – nor is it what that one was – it is about two competing discourses – the one I’m describing that I usse, and the other one, which is often called the Hindutva one.

How anyone in their right minds could come to the conclusion that Modi was not involved in the Gujarat riots after looking into the matter some is beyond me. This is why I started talking about epistemology – because ultimately, it boils down to worldviews, not to disagreements about specific facts rooted in a common frame of reference about how to determine what is true and what is not. And so you can say that both “sides” are being dogmatic – but in point of fact, I don’t think I am, and Rahul certainly isn’t, from what I can tell. I would hesitate to even say we’re a “side” unless “people who are appalled by a cavalier treatment of facts and the elevation of mass murderers to power over 1 billion people” can be said to be a “side.”

So I’ll keep tossing stones from my mansion, thanks