Comments on: Set Your DVR for a Couple of Britz http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/12/01/set_your_dvr_fo/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: mantram http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/12/01/set_your_dvr_fo/comment-page-1/#comment-224449 mantram Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:58:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5540#comment-224449 <p>I too, Like Taz could not figure out why she would transition into a jihadist. There was a huge chunk of character development missing which completely ultimately undermined the seriousness of the subject matter.</p> I too, Like Taz could not figure out why she would transition into a jihadist. There was a huge chunk of character development missing which completely ultimately undermined the seriousness of the subject matter.

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By: Paranoid Android http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/12/01/set_your_dvr_fo/comment-page-1/#comment-223364 Paranoid Android Thu, 04 Dec 2008 09:39:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5540#comment-223364 <p>Abhi #33 - Love your posts, comments and generally having you on SM. This is why I find your comment rather abrupt and in a slightly poor taste.</p> <p>Firstly, your comment is way too condescending. You could have made your point in a relatively non-pedantic fashion, without sitting on the high chair. It is your forum, and of course, you can do it. But was unnecessary.</p> <p>Secondly, your comment comes off as if you have not read the post at all and were just infuriated by the "i am so sick of this&that". the OP has made at least a few valid points, and it would have behooved you to at least acknowledge those. To give credit to OP, he understood the gist of what you said and ignored the medium.</p> <p>Lastly, the response should/could have come from Taz.</p> <p>Sorry about the rant :)</p> Abhi #33 – Love your posts, comments and generally having you on SM. This is why I find your comment rather abrupt and in a slightly poor taste.

Firstly, your comment is way too condescending. You could have made your point in a relatively non-pedantic fashion, without sitting on the high chair. It is your forum, and of course, you can do it. But was unnecessary.

Secondly, your comment comes off as if you have not read the post at all and were just infuriated by the “i am so sick of this&that”. the OP has made at least a few valid points, and it would have behooved you to at least acknowledge those. To give credit to OP, he understood the gist of what you said and ignored the medium.

Lastly, the response should/could have come from Taz.

Sorry about the rant :)

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By: ensure http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/12/01/set_your_dvr_fo/comment-page-1/#comment-223272 ensure Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:37:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5540#comment-223272 <p>one thing that irked me was when the campus "jihad" recruiter asked her to name laws she had changed through her activism, she should/could have countered that terrorist attacks influence legislation in terrible ways. sure letter writing and protests don't have much effect, but a single terrorist attack can and has justified laws that go against your original goal of justice. without 9/11, would we have the Patriot Act?</p> one thing that irked me was when the campus “jihad” recruiter asked her to name laws she had changed through her activism, she should/could have countered that terrorist attacks influence legislation in terrible ways. sure letter writing and protests don’t have much effect, but a single terrorist attack can and has justified laws that go against your original goal of justice. without 9/11, would we have the Patriot Act?

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By: rudie_c http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/12/01/set_your_dvr_fo/comment-page-1/#comment-223166 rudie_c Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:12:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5540#comment-223166 <p>Taz I agree it could have used another half hour or so. One bit that always stands out is the bit when she is asked if she has ever been pregnant. I found that bit sad. Her political views thoughts overshadow everything including her family.</p> <p>The last scene where the film shows her video, expressing her reasons, blaming the government, then blaming everyone else for not doing anything. It’s like one of the videos of the London Bombings a few years back, “as my brothers and sisters are being killed in Palestine, Afghanistan”. It’s the last image you see and is how I remember her, a killer of innocent lives.</p> <p>I did not see it as a justification in terrorism. If the film was trying to achieve change in British Law it showed this way is never going to change anything.</p> Taz I agree it could have used another half hour or so. One bit that always stands out is the bit when she is asked if she has ever been pregnant. I found that bit sad. Her political views thoughts overshadow everything including her family.

The last scene where the film shows her video, expressing her reasons, blaming the government, then blaming everyone else for not doing anything. It’s like one of the videos of the London Bombings a few years back, “as my brothers and sisters are being killed in Palestine, Afghanistan”. It’s the last image you see and is how I remember her, a killer of innocent lives.

I did not see it as a justification in terrorism. If the film was trying to achieve change in British Law it showed this way is never going to change anything.

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By: Taz http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/12/01/set_your_dvr_fo/comment-page-1/#comment-223151 Taz Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:26:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5540#comment-223151 <p><i>34 · <b><a href="mailto:wyoming222@hotmail.com" rel="nofollow">Vedauwoo</a></b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005540.html#comment223053">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>.....it was quite and intense episode!</blockquote> <p>Yeah...I was very uncomfortable after watching last night's half of the movie - I think cuz I identified with her as a political organizer and being a Muslim woman, and then she just went bad (in a way I would never see myself doing). I saw where a lot of the comments here were coming from after watching Part 2. I also don't think the connection in her mind was clear to us viewers - it kinda seemed an abrupt transition into jihadist - and it should have been done better. Maybe it would have been to complex to give her character depth, but I think Part 2 was lacking far more than Part 1.</p> 34 · Vedauwoo said

…..it was quite and intense episode!

Yeah…I was very uncomfortable after watching last night’s half of the movie – I think cuz I identified with her as a political organizer and being a Muslim woman, and then she just went bad (in a way I would never see myself doing). I saw where a lot of the comments here were coming from after watching Part 2. I also don’t think the connection in her mind was clear to us viewers – it kinda seemed an abrupt transition into jihadist – and it should have been done better. Maybe it would have been to complex to give her character depth, but I think Part 2 was lacking far more than Part 1.

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By: mountaindreamer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/12/01/set_your_dvr_fo/comment-page-1/#comment-223145 mountaindreamer Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:07:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5540#comment-223145 <p>Did not mean to rant. I have rarely commented here before, but this post just triggered a very strong response in me. For the past week, I like many other Indians have grappled with a dreadful sense of vulnerability and the real possibility that our country might slip into violent chaos. I know it is difficult for an American to understand that fear - the system here is far more stable. The pain is still very raw in India - people are still burying and cremating bodies. Perhaps not the best time for such a post ? But yes, it is your blog, an American (not Indian) blog and I am free not to read it. I know.</p> <p>I stand by one thing - I truly believe that we need to be unequivocal in the condemnation of terror and blurring the lines only legitimizes the terrorists. That being said, I am sorry for being so personal in my comment. It was absolutely unwarranted. I think I will now go scream into my pillow as someone suggested.</p> Did not mean to rant. I have rarely commented here before, but this post just triggered a very strong response in me. For the past week, I like many other Indians have grappled with a dreadful sense of vulnerability and the real possibility that our country might slip into violent chaos. I know it is difficult for an American to understand that fear – the system here is far more stable. The pain is still very raw in India – people are still burying and cremating bodies. Perhaps not the best time for such a post ? But yes, it is your blog, an American (not Indian) blog and I am free not to read it. I know.

I stand by one thing – I truly believe that we need to be unequivocal in the condemnation of terror and blurring the lines only legitimizes the terrorists. That being said, I am sorry for being so personal in my comment. It was absolutely unwarranted. I think I will now go scream into my pillow as someone suggested.

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By: ShallowThinker http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/12/01/set_your_dvr_fo/comment-page-1/#comment-223140 ShallowThinker Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:58:01 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5540#comment-223140 <p>Hey Abhi Ever read deadspin? It has the funniest commenters in the world of blogs and the only way you can become one is to email your comments to the "Master" and if he thinks your good enough then you can become a regular. I suggest you do the same thing and should only blame yourself for allowing people to comment like they do.</p> Hey Abhi Ever read deadspin? It has the funniest commenters in the world of blogs and the only way you can become one is to email your comments to the “Master” and if he thinks your good enough then you can become a regular. I suggest you do the same thing and should only blame yourself for allowing people to comment like they do.

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By: Suki Dillon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/12/01/set_your_dvr_fo/comment-page-1/#comment-223122 Suki Dillon Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:55:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5540#comment-223122 <p><i>Hizb ut-Tahrir yesterday denounced Jonathan Evans for creating a "climate of fear and mistrust" and will never concede that Muslims are better off in Britain than in Bangladesh. </i></p> <p>Can we start a fund for Mr.Hizb ut-Tahrir for a one way ticket to Bangladesh. I hate to see the stress the poor guy must be dealing with living in place like England.</p> Hizb ut-Tahrir yesterday denounced Jonathan Evans for creating a “climate of fear and mistrust” and will never concede that Muslims are better off in Britain than in Bangladesh.

Can we start a fund for Mr.Hizb ut-Tahrir for a one way ticket to Bangladesh. I hate to see the stress the poor guy must be dealing with living in place like England.

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By: Suki Dillon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/12/01/set_your_dvr_fo/comment-page-1/#comment-223120 Suki Dillon Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:51:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5540#comment-223120 <p>.<b>...Living in a country that provides them with more freedom and protection than any Islamic society in history, many British Muslims have cultivated the mystique of victimhood because victims are cool. From the Channel 4 executives who titled their drama Britz (emulating gangsta rap) to the fashionistas who drape themselves in Palestinian keffiyeh headscarves, every lame wannabe aligns with the supposed plight of British Muslims, hoping to look a little edgier as a result.</p> <p></b> Can we blame Bush for the plight of British Muslims?</p> .…Living in a country that provides them with more freedom and protection than any Islamic society in history, many British Muslims have cultivated the mystique of victimhood because victims are cool. From the Channel 4 executives who titled their drama Britz (emulating gangsta rap) to the fashionistas who drape themselves in Palestinian keffiyeh headscarves, every lame wannabe aligns with the supposed plight of British Muslims, hoping to look a little edgier as a result.

Can we blame Bush for the plight of British Muslims?

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By: Suki Dillon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/12/01/set_your_dvr_fo/comment-page-1/#comment-223117 Suki Dillon Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:42:46 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5540#comment-223117 <p><i>it's very hard to be south asian in the u.k. as ones community really messes with your head. i'm hindu and from a posh community where most people are well off but they still find a way to interfere and belittle me. the south asians in the usa are much nicer. i know because i did my masters in boston and met lots of nice people. (sorry for the rant, felt like venting.)</i></p> <p>Some of this could due to a difference in the two countries view on immigration.</p> it’s very hard to be south asian in the u.k. as ones community really messes with your head. i’m hindu and from a posh community where most people are well off but they still find a way to interfere and belittle me. the south asians in the usa are much nicer. i know because i did my masters in boston and met lots of nice people. (sorry for the rant, felt like venting.)

Some of this could due to a difference in the two countries view on immigration.

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